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January 17, 2010 2:25:29 AM

I have a gateway gm5684e. It has a pcie-x16 slot. Very confused on video cards. PS is only 300w, will be upgrading it. Best card bang for buck @ $200-$300? Compatibility has me worried. Thanks for you suggestions.

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a b U Graphics card
January 17, 2010 2:37:37 AM

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-graphics-card,review...
best for $200 HD 4890
best for $250 2 x GeForce GTS 250 or 2 x Radeon HD 4850
best for $300 2 x Radeon HD 5770 or Radeon HD 5850

in 2 weeks or so a 5830 will come out for ~$200 and perform as well as a 4890 only with DX11, just something to consider.
you will also need about a 500w psu for eather of these choices.

4890/5830 should hold its own in 1920x1080 res. but with the 5850 you wont need to upgrade for a very very long time.
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January 17, 2010 5:33:01 PM
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mfarrukh said:
I suggest you should go for 5770 Cross fire.
It will cost you a bit more but will perform better than 5850 and close to 5870.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Go for 2 of them




GOOD LUCk


The OP has already stated he has a single slot motherboard. Crossfire is NOT an option. A single 4890, 5830 (when it's released) or 5850... those are your winners... assuming you have a beefed up PSU to back them up.
January 18, 2010 3:01:06 AM

rodney_ws said:
The OP has already stated he has a single slot motherboard. Crossfire is NOT an option. A single 4890, 5830 (when it's released) or 5850... those are your winners... assuming you have a beefed up PSU to back them up.


After your, and a few other, recomendations I believe I will be getting the 5850 (or poss. the 5830). Do you have any preference on manufacturer? xfx, gigabite, etc etc? From the revue's I've read they all seem to be pretty equal in dependability. While your at it, any opinion on power supply manufacturers?
thanks for your help
January 18, 2010 10:05:27 AM

My last two video cards have been XFX and I have no complaints... they have a more robust warranty than other manufacturers. That said... I'd still gravitate towards a card with a custom cooler... to me low noise trumps the warranty... I've just never waited long enough for the custom cards to come out.

PSU? Corsair TX series if you're on a budget... Corsair HX series otherwise.
February 13, 2010 1:49:43 PM

rodney_ws said:
My last two video cards have been XFX and I have no complaints... they have a more robust warranty than other manufacturers. That said... I'd still gravitate towards a card with a custom cooler... to me low noise trumps the warranty... I've just never waited long enough for the custom cards to come out.

PSU? Corsair TX series if you're on a budget... Corsair HX series otherwise.


I've ran into a small problem. I've ordered a corsair 750HX. (very good suggestion by the way, thank you) I was checking dimensions inside my case and noticed I'm unable to fit a hd5850 on my motherboard due to the fact it takes 2 slot spaces. I am unable to move the card directly below it.
Link to picture of mb http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006188R/4...

I'm really sad about this, looked like a great card. Checked the hd4890, same problem. Do you have another suggestion other than a new motherboard?
February 13, 2010 2:42:49 PM

What is it that's consuming that PCIe x1 slot?
February 13, 2010 3:04:40 PM

SV_Bubbles said:
What is it that's consuming that PCIe x1 slot?


I'ts the tv tuner card. Part of the original system (gateway gm5684e). I don't want to lose this function of the system.
a b U Graphics card
February 13, 2010 3:16:49 PM

There aren't many of the newer cards that DONT take up two slots; I would reccomend downgrading your graphics card to a 5770 and picking up a new motherboard that has Xfire (I got one off newegg for $75). Then you can keep your tuner, and have room for expansion in the future with a future proof motherboard.
February 13, 2010 3:20:46 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Something like this as the current motherboard looks like a mATX and this motherboard is configured with the PCIe x1 above the PCIe x16 slot (instead of below like your current setup). This will work if the tuner card is single slot which it probably is.
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Also considering you have DDR2 600 or 800MHz ram. There are other options. What is your CPU?
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 13, 2010 3:55:19 PM

A new motherboard is going to be a hassle to install. It would be cheaper and easier to just get a regular PCI TV tuner card. Then you can fit the HD5850/30.
February 13, 2010 8:08:51 PM

SV_Bubbles said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Something like this as the current motherboard looks like a mATX and this motherboard is configured with the PCIe x1 above the PCIe x16 slot (instead of below like your current setup). This will work if the tuner card is single slot which it probably is.
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Also considering you have DDR2 600 or 800MHz ram. There are other options. What is your CPU?


intel pentium dual cpu e2180 @ 2.00ghz
socket 775 lga
2G pc2-6400 (400 MHz)

was not looking at doing a complete system upgrade at this time, just looking for a decent card that would fit my system (other than the psu upgrade) yet be good enought to transfer to a better machine in the future.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 13, 2010 8:26:25 PM

Hmm, that cpu is quite weak. It will definitely bottleneck the cards you are thinking about. Looking up your motherboard it seems lke it can only handle conroe core 2 duos. The best one listed is the E6700 which isn't great but a ton better than what you have now especially if you can OC it.
February 14, 2010 2:28:26 AM

I know this system isn't the fastest, but we're getting off track a little here. What I am after is a good video card that will work on my current system in the $200-300 range. If possible one that would be good enough on a future system. I currently don't have the funds to build a new system. I've already invested in a corsair hx750 so power shouldn't be a problem but now I need to know which video card to invest in. and again I thank all of you for your suggestions.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 14, 2010 3:38:51 AM

Well no, it's not off track. Spending a lot of money on a video card and pairing it with a weak cpu is pointless. That CPU is going to bottleneck $100 cards a fair amount, so $200-300 cards are just a total waste. What you can do with about $300 is get an Athlon II x4, a motherboard to go with it and an HD5770 and that would be the best use of your money in terms of gaming performance.
February 14, 2010 4:11:12 AM

jyjjy said:
Well no, it's not off track. Spending a lot of money on a video card and pairing it with a weak cpu is pointless. That CPU is going to bottleneck $100 cards a fair amount, so $200-300 cards are just a total waste. What you can do with about $300 is get an Athlon II x4, a motherboard to go with it and an HD5770 and that would be the best use of your money in terms of gaming performance.


I see your point, but at this point I don't want to build a new system. Do you have a recommendation for a card around a $100 then?
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 14, 2010 7:37:35 PM

Yes. This
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
are very nice deals.
Another option is the HD5770. It won't give you better performance than the cards above with your current CPU but when you do build a new system you can keep it and get another for crossfire. It scales very well in crossfire and 2 will give you performance similar to an HD5870;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Just make sure when you build you get a crossfire capable motherboard with both slots running at at least x8.
February 14, 2010 9:52:07 PM

jyjjy said:
Yes. This
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
are very nice deals.
Another option is the HD5770. It won't give you better performance than the cards above with your current CPU but when you do build a new system you can keep it and get another for crossfire. It scales very well in crossfire and 2 will give you performance similar to an HD5870;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Just make sure when you build you get a crossfire capable motherboard with both slots running at at least x8.


Looking at both cards you suggested I see they still take up two spaces which i do not have room for in my current configuration.
February 14, 2010 11:36:36 PM

jyjjy said:
Ah, forgot about that. The best you are going to do with a single slot is an 9800GT;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's pretty nice for low resolutions.
Alternately you can get a PCI TV tuner so you can use one of the other cards;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


Ahh now I'm getting somewhere. So at this point 9800gt is my best bet, however, If I do decide to get a pci tv tuner should I go with something like the hd5850? I know my processor won't give me the best performance out of it but I'm looking to build a new system in the future. I don't mind spending a few bucks more now if I can use it later.

I want to thank you for your help, so far you are the most informative person that has tried to help me.
a c 376 U Graphics card
February 15, 2010 1:25:29 AM

Well the HD5850 is a high end card and you always pay a premium for high end tech so it doesn't make sense to do so when it is basically useless to you right now. It doesn't sound like a new system is particularly imminent from what you've been saying.
The HD5770 and crossfiring in the new build would be a decent idea like I said. The card will be $150 now and if you build a new system in a year or so it'll likely be down to around $100. That will give you performance similar to a $400+ HD5870 for $250 when you do upgrade.
Or just keep the TV tuner you have and get the 9800GT then buy whatever the latest greatest card is when you do build a new system.
March 12, 2010 12:47:15 AM

jyjjy said:
Well the HD5850 is a high end card and you always pay a premium for high end tech so it doesn't make sense to do so when it is basically useless to you right now. It doesn't sound like a new system is particularly imminent from what you've been saying.
The HD5770 and crossfiring in the new build would be a decent idea like I said. The card will be $150 now and if you build a new system in a year or so it'll likely be down to around $100. That will give you performance similar to a $400+ HD5870 for $250 when you do upgrade.
Or just keep the TV tuner you have and get the 9800GT then buy whatever the latest greatest card is when you do build a new system.


Just wanted to send you a quick note to let you know that I did buy the zotac 9800gt. I am quite happy with the performance that it gave me. People today seem to forget so I just had to say...

Thank you.
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