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January 23, 2010 8:01:07 PM

hello everyone,

i have decided to change my pc, as new games coming in and i couldn't play them

my specs were like.. a pentium dual core at 2.2 with 7600gt 256mb 128bytes 2gb single channel ram ... some akasha cooler on my processor to keep it more cool, and a stock case in which the components to be in :D 

now i have decided to buy a new pc, a real one.

so, my new specs will look like :

motherboard : :

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspec&maincat_no=...

processor :

AMD Athlon II x4 630 Quad Core @ 2,8Ghz, L2 Cache:2Mb, L1 Cache: 256bytes

I am planning to buy this processor because it can be easily overclocked and i know it is BEST BUY now... i mean none in price range can beat this processor. also i am planning to clock it at 4.0Ghz if it is possible with the cooler i have chosen.

processor cooler :

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/product_info.php?...

case :

Antec Three Hundred

if you look very careful in this picture you can easily see how the case is helping me cooling the

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=242akqs&s=6

and Antec link :) 

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MTA4MQ==

graphic card:

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=prodvgaspec&maincat_no...

also the case helps cooling it... but it is not that important at graphics

hard disk drive:

Western Digital, 1TB, Caviar Green, 64MB Cache

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=763

ram memory:

2 GB - Dual Channel @ 1800Mhz - Kingston - CL8

I know it is a bit ODD to have only 2 gb's of ram for a serious pc, but i think 2gb is enough for most of the games and with them working at that frequency i think it is enough.

this is the item that is budget picked... it should've been corsair 4gb dual channel @ 2133 Mhz.... but this is the budget... and I also consider Kingston to be a part of AMD so I can have synchronizing between processor and ram ... :) 

power supply

i am the biggest noob at power supplies ... i have a good power supply which i had bought recently for my older pc, it is a Sirtec 450-550W

will it be enough to feed all the vents and all the parts ?

vents

Akasa 4Led Coolers ... i will trie to find the ball bearing ones .. that are silent and have a big air flow for 120mm
i think they will be blue :) 

ok guys ... now that you have read all of this...

i want your opininos and your advices for me before buying it, i must tell you i have bought the case, the hdd, the cpu cooler and some vents and as i told you i have the power supply from my older pc (power supply replaced lately)... but the CORE ITEMS which really affect pc performance are the one that i haven't bought.

guys, waiting your comments and opinions
VLAD


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January 23, 2010 8:18:26 PM

For the ram, the difference between 1333, 1600, and 1800MHz isnt a ton, but the performance difference going between 2GB and 4GB is rather significant as it lets games run straight off the ram which is very helpful, i would definitely suggest 4GB of 1333MHz or 1600MHz DDR3.

Dont get the 790FX, get the 790X instead, its a hell of a lot cheaper and you get almost all of the same features, and you can get the CPU and board combo'd on newegg and save a bit more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

For the PSU do you plan to run two cards in the future? If so then get a good 750W unit like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Im unsure if the 5850 will fit in the antec 300, so wait for a second opinion on that, you may need a full tower because the 58xx are massive cards.
January 23, 2010 8:22:36 PM

your build is very unbalanced... dont get 790fx, since it is probs more than you need, idk if you can buy from newegg, but i would show you some, 1800 mhz ram is dumb, get 4 gb of 1333 or 1600 ram, that cpu seems underpowered for this build, so i would get a 955, or downgrade some of the parts, the psu doesnt sound very good, and look for a f3 samsung hdd, it will outperform that hdd and cost a lot less.
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January 23, 2010 8:23:21 PM

hunter315 said:
For the ram, the difference between 1333, 1600, and 1800MHz isnt a ton, but the performance difference going between 2GB and 4GB is rather significant as it lets games run straight off the ram which is very helpful, i would definitely suggest 4GB of 1333MHz or 1600MHz DDR3.

Dont get the 790FX, get the 790X instead, its a hell of a lot cheaper and you get almost all of the same features, and you can get the CPU and board combo'd on newegg and save a bit more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

For the PSU do you plan to run two cards in the future? If so then get a good 750W unit like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Im unsure if the 5850 will fit in the antec 300, so wait for a second opinion on that, you may need a full tower because the 58xx are massive cards.



thank you, i will consider your advices, especially the RAM advice i will try to get 4gbs of ram

for the motherboard i preffer the MSI because i love the brand

i found on tomshardware that 5850 fits in antec 300
January 23, 2010 8:33:04 PM

ares1214 said:
your build is very unbalanced... dont get 790fx, since it is probs more than you need, idk if you can buy from newegg, but i would show you some, 1800 mhz ram is dumb, get 4 gb of 1333 or 1600 ram, that cpu seems underpowered for this build, so i would get a 955, or downgrade some of the parts, the psu doesnt sound very good, and look for a f3 samsung hdd, it will outperform that hdd and cost a lot less.


ok, i understood the RAM odd thing,

i didn't know the hard disk drive is such an important item... since all have same specs and same price :|

the CPU i have chosen it's a top class Athlon ... a best buy ... I simply know that 955 is better but it costs 50 euro's more ( 149 E ) and the Athlon 630 (96E)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

if you look in the list there are like 700 points in benchmarking between them, and I bet that the clocked version of the athlon II can beat the phenom II unclocked
January 23, 2010 8:44:32 PM

errrr, no the 955 will definitely win, and why not get something like a 925...and its not that the 630 is bad, its just a bit underpowered for that build...and the hdd is fairly important, but this one is not only better, its much cheaper.
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