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September 14, 2012 2:57:31 PM

hello

right now my setup is.

antec df 85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5 3570k
8gig g skill ram
gtx 670 ftw
750 watt psu

i dont really have a budget. but id like to get the cheapest and most reliable setup as possible

im most likely going to be getting a second gtx 670 ftw graphics card and doing an eyefinity/nvidia surround setup at 5760 x 1080 on 3 27 inch monitors. i would be wanting to overclock the cpu and graphics cards as much as possible to get the best performance for the nvidia surround setup.

so i would be cooling two gtx 670 ftw and my cpu 3570k. and would i need more than a 280mm rad with fans on both sides to cool all of this??

my questions would be is watercooling worth it? and would i need it for overlocking just to game? and if i didd watercool and overclock how much of a performance boost would i see?

the items for the watercooling system would be..

Radiator. i would put fans on both sides for a push pull method

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9013/ex-rad-154/Black...

For the pump and reservior

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13884/ex-res-300/XSPC...

and then these for the gpu waterblocks i guess.. i have no idea if these are good or not. i looked up that gtx 680 referance water blocks will fit on non referance gtx 670s. if you could confirm that that would be great

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15719/ex-blc-1098/HEA...

cpu waterblock

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14186/ex-blc-971/XSPC...

and then id get compression fittings and some cool uv red tubing..

also does it matter what fans i would use for radiator. or would two of the stock fans on the antec df 85 be ok and then get two other 140mm fans

if you guys have any other suggests or comments please let me know

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a c 138 K Overclocking
September 14, 2012 8:11:33 PM

First off Nvidia does not do Eyefinity that is an AMD feature , Nvidia does 3D surround.
You would need a 420mm radiator with three 140mm fans on each side for push/pull.
You can't use the GTX 680 water blocks for the FTW 670 video cards and I would do a lot more research before buying a 680 water block for the 670 FTW card. The cpu water block is a good choice. I would be careful with the uv red tubing as some of it can look orange when the uv light is not on or is not strong enough. You can use any fans that you want as long as they are the 140mm size but it would pay to shop around and get four of the same cfm and dba.
The radiator that you have chosen is a thin one and a thicker one would be better. The pump resivoir is a good choice.
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a c 190 K Overclocking
September 14, 2012 8:20:12 PM

Overall good choices (bearing in mind Zones adjustments)
You need a bigger rad and I would recommmend having matched fans on it,
theres a fan guide in Cpu/Components section and a Watercooling sticky in Overclocking section I strongly recommend you read as well,
but for a first post you are looking fine,
Fans> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/331629-10-cooling-r...
W/c sticky> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/277130-11-read-firs...
Post back an amended list when you've been through the sticky :) 
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a b K Overclocking
September 14, 2012 9:48:59 PM

You can use GTX 680 full coverage waterblock for GTX 670 FTW. I have a friend with a GTX 670 FTW, it has the exact same layout as the GTX 680 reference board. Any GTX 680 reference waterblock will fit (Aquacomputer Aquagrafx GTX 680 waterblock, Watercool Heatkiller GTX 680 LT and hole edition, Koolance GTX 680 waterblock, EK GTX 680 waterblock, XSPC GTX 680 waterblock all fit).

A reference GTX 670 waterblock, however, DOES NOT fit.
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September 14, 2012 10:39:28 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
Overall good choices (bearing in mind Zones adjustments)
You need a bigger rad and I would recommmend having matched fans on it,
theres a fan guide in Cpu/Components section and a Watercooling sticky in Overclocking section I strongly recommend you read as well,
but for a first post you are looking fine,
Fans> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/331629-10-cooling-r...
W/c sticky> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/277130-11-read-firs...
Post back an amended list when you've been through the sticky :) 
Moto



so if i went with a thick 280 mm radiator and did a push pull with that and then got a 120mm rad and only put one fan on that would that be enough to cool a cpu and two gtx 670s??
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a b K Overclocking
September 14, 2012 11:38:46 PM

beachkyle1 said:
so if i went with a thick 280 mm radiator and did a push pull with that and then got a 120mm rad and only put one fan on that would that be enough to cool a cpu and two gtx 670s??


You need at least a 420 mm to do 1 cpu and 2 GTX 670. It would be best to get 2 radiators (1 big one on top such as 420 mm radiator and a 240 mm radiator on the bottom) to cool 1 CPu and 2 video cards.
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a c 331 K Overclocking
September 15, 2012 1:24:24 AM

CPU - 77-95w
GTX 670 - 170w (x2)

total 435w @ stock speeds

Most common 360 rads dissipate between 525-600 watts w/ 1500-1800rpm fans for 10C delta and 0.75-1.5gpm flow.

You could even run this loop on a single RX240 and good fans if you really wanted to. (stock speeds, of course)
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September 15, 2012 4:31:09 AM

rubix_1011 said:
CPU - 77-95w
GTX 670 - 170w (x2)

total 435w @ stock speeds

Most common 360 rads dissipate between 525-600 watts w/ 1500-1800rpm fans for 10C delta and 0.75-1.5gpm flow.

You could even run this loop on a single RX240 and good fans if you really wanted to. (stock speeds, of course)


so if i just got a really thick 280 mm rad push pull and really good fans.. would that be enough to run a loop of a cpu and two gtx 670 or would i need to throw a 120 in between them?
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a c 138 K Overclocking
September 15, 2012 4:50:12 AM

A 420mm radiator is three 140mm fans on each side and will cool the cpu and two video cards, you do seem to want to use the 280mm radiator is there a reason for that ? Having one radiator in the loop would be better than having two seperate ones , just more connections and more work. Do you not have the room for the 420?
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a c 190 K Overclocking
September 15, 2012 5:47:10 AM

He probably wants to keep it all internal, shame as a nice big rad on top of the Df would make the look imo :) 
Moto
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a b K Overclocking
September 15, 2012 5:57:22 AM

You should do it the right way or don't do it at all period watercooling is not cheap but it's well worth the money imo.Everyday i get up in the morning and look at my rig i think to myself

Uploaded with ImageShack.us LOL! Watercooling FTW!
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a c 190 K Overclocking
September 15, 2012 6:03:30 AM

Hehe, Go hard or go home as Ozzy says, know what you mean though man, I look at mine on my desk and know my cash was well spent,
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