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Phenom II 965 instead og i5 750??

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March 31, 2010 1:40:51 AM

How does this combo perform? Phenom II 965 CPU and Asus M4A79XTD.
I was considering intel i5 750 cpu and asus p7p55D premium MOB but the AMD setup is much cheaper.
Is as good a quality (will it last as long as the intel setup)?

I have a 7 year old Asus P7p800 and P4 cpu and have had no problems. Its slowing down now.

Can someone convince me to go with AMD?

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March 31, 2010 1:55:42 AM

The AMD setup will definitely be worth it. the 965 competes with the i5 in performance. There are wins and losses. I believe the i5 comes out on top in the end by like 5% overall. For gaming there is no difference.
As for quality, AMD has been around for a long time and is reputable company. The 965 will last. Best for you to get the C3 (125W) stepping version over the C2 (140W) though. Less heat and power consumption.
As for motherboard quality, I trust ATI integrated graphics and currently, they are higher performing than the intel integrated (for IGPs) while at the same time producing less heat than the typical Nvidia integrated.

As for your "slowdown", a processor does not slow down with age provided you keep the case airflow good and clean/prevent dust buildup. Another cause of slowdown is the actual OS having been installed on the computer for a long time. A third is the Hard disk drive slowing down over time and eventually failing. If you would be happy using the same software and OS you had when you got your old computer and are willing to have the same performance as when you got your old computer, some simple maintenance and a new hard drive will get your computer back up to speed.
That being said, it's probably time for a new system anyway since your computer is 7 years old.

Another note: The motherboard you chose is a crossfire board without integrated graphics. Unless you plan to crossfire 2 graphics cards, I wouldn't recommend it. I use the AM+, non-EVO version of this board right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
So if you aren't planning crossfire, I'd go with that.
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March 31, 2010 11:20:03 AM

Thank You! Great response. I find the AMD boards are much cheaper than the intel boards. I just winder if they are the same quality. The board you mention above in a mere $89.
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March 31, 2010 11:47:27 AM

Ok I am not interested in crossfire. I'd like to give onboard graphics a try (to see if sufficient for photoshop CS4). I would also like to have SATA3 and usb3.0. Is there an AMD board that meets those requirements?
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March 31, 2010 6:02:29 PM

i don't suggest the on board graphics... get a decent discrete graphics card... the amd system is just fine...
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March 31, 2010 6:26:37 PM

What are you using this PC for?

Those high end Phenom IIs/i5 CPUs might be overkill for ya.

Maybe Phenom II x2, Athlon II, i3 might be more economical?
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March 31, 2010 6:50:35 PM

^ +1, could also consider I3-530/6xx

As to MB, quality is about the same so look to features, ie you desire Sata 6 (only usfull at this time if you are doing a raid0 with SSDs). One point is that the Intel chipset normally provides better thruoghput for HHD.

Concur, get a discrete graphics card (ati 56xx or ATI 57xx would be a good choice)and in this case amd/intel same-same.

The intel chipset may be a little more, but generally you get what you pay for (THIS is true wether Amd, or Intel). CPU, amd is cheaper and comparable in performance. If performance is the key then a higher end i7 might be inorder, if cost is the factor, then your choice.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sligthly better audio 889 vs 888, Has HDMI and DVI on backplate, for CPU's with inergrated graphics (ie i3-5xx and i3-6xx )
neg no sata6, but currently no HDD saturates Sata 3, only raid0 with 2, or more SSDs and some of the EXPENSIVE SSDs can utilize Sata 6 (probably true for the next several years.)
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March 31, 2010 7:28:35 PM

First off, AMD performs well and they are reliable. Here are 2 boards that meet your requirements and they are a brand that I trust. The second has a newer chipset, which should have slightly stronger onboard graphics.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could also go with a cheaper board with no onboard video and a cheap gpu like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A cheap dedicated gpu would be a little better for your application.
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March 31, 2010 8:55:02 PM

Pro Llama said:
First off, AMD performs well and they are reliable. Here are 2 boards that meet your requirements and they are a brand that I trust. The second has a newer chipset, which should have slightly stronger onboard graphics.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could also go with a cheaper board with no onboard video and a cheap gpu like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A cheap dedicated gpu would be a little better for your application.


I can't help but notice you picked pretty expensive boards. Same brand, AM3, 4200 plus sideport memory
http://outboundlink.net/out.php?cid=357&tr=0&url=http%3...

The second one with the 4290 is better graphicswise but for the additional price, you might as well get a cheap dedicated card like the 4550.
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March 31, 2010 9:06:47 PM

enzo matrix said:
I can't help but notice you picked pretty expensive boards. Same brand, AM3, 4200 plus sideport memory
http://outboundlink.net/out.php?cid=357&tr=0&url=http%3...

The second one with the 4290 is better graphicswise but for the additional price, you might as well get a cheap dedicated card like the 4550.


The op asked for boards that have SATA 3 and usb 3.0. The board that you listed does not. Personally I would scrap those options and go for the cheaper board, but if that’s what the op wants then the extra $30 is worth it.
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March 31, 2010 9:12:49 PM

I want my computer mainly for web browsing, photoshop CS4, MS word and occasional game (but not a priority). I like to have several windows open so while I'm web surfing I will be workin on photoshop...etc.
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March 31, 2010 9:15:19 PM

Accroding to this intels i5 750 performs better with photoshop than Phenim II 965

Here is a general estimate of the performance of different chips while using cs4
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] ,1387.html
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March 31, 2010 9:21:59 PM

Pro Llama said:
The op asked for boards that have SATA 3 and usb 3.0. The board that you listed does not. Personally I would scrap those options and go for the cheaper board, but if that’s what the op wants then the extra $30 is worth it.

Ah I missed that. An expansion card is always an option, but I haven't seen any for USB 3.0 yet myself.
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April 1, 2010 12:49:19 AM

enzo matrix said:
Ah I missed that. An expansion card is always an option, but I haven't seen any for USB 3.0 yet myself.


Well bud, you haven't looked too hard because they were available before you could buy the mother boards.
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April 1, 2010 12:54:06 AM

swifty_morgan said:
Well bud, you haven't looked too hard because they were available before you could buy the mother boards.

Yeah. The last time I looked was a long while back.
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