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January 25, 2010 12:11:11 AM

okay so im buying this computer on craigslist. its 1500$ but comes with no monitor. im wodering if this is a good deal and i was also planning on selling the gtx 295 so i can buy a 5850 and a monitor. the proble with this is im on a 1500$ budget but i still need to buy a monitor. the reason im selling the gtx is because it dont have dx 11 which i want for when bf bc2 comes out. so my question is. how can i sell this gtx 295, and what graphics card would you reccomend and which monitor for under 1500. or maybe 20 over. this is the system.


MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T Deluxe with Express Gate
CPU: Intel core i7 920 Overclocked to 4.0ghz stable
HEATSINK: Prolimatech Heatsink Magalem or however you spell it.
MEMORY: 6GB OCZ DDR3 1600mhz
GRAPHICS CARD: BFG Tech GTX 295
POWER SUPPLY: Antec 850w CPX
CASE: Antec 1200
HARD DRIVE: 750gb Seagate 7200RPM
OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 7 Professional

so is this a good deal and like i said i wanna sell the gtx 295 and buy a different graphics card and monitor, for around the same price preferably not above 1500. thanks guys. ill be checking this often.

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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 12:17:57 AM

Why not build??

1) You would look to build using a i5 750 (similar to the i7 920 in gaming), with a monitor and OS for the same price range. As system running at 4 GHz is great but you don't know what temps they are getting and is the CPU running hot causing damage overtime to the CPU. Also, the Seagate was known for firmware issues up to the 7200.12, so that could be an issue.

2) I think you will have a hard time selling the GTX295 because most people don't think it is worth the money, specially with all of the newer 58xx & 5970 cards that almost equal it or succeed it with DX11 support.
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January 25, 2010 12:21:10 AM

so could you maybe pick out the items on newegg? you seem to know your stuff. please. my budget is under 1500. and i do want a haf 922 case, also ill be gaming ALOT. it dont have to be a really overpowered system.
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January 25, 2010 12:32:59 AM

also a budget i of 1500. with everything excluding keyboard and mouse and speakers. i just cant seem to build a good gaming computer worht under 1500 with everything. please help me out.
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 12:36:44 AM

Maybe somthing like this ?



Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827118030
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan
The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info)
• 1 year: $6.99
• 2 year: $11.99
$26.99


COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119197
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$109.98
$99.98


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$54.99


ASUS VK246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824236048
Return Policy: Monitor Replacement Only Return Policy
-$30.00 Instant
$259.99
$229.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231279
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$129.99


ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131621
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
$189.99


Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115215
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
$199.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16835103065
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$29.99



• SAPPHIRE 100281SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16814102856
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy
• Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116754
Return Policy: Software Return Policy
-$20.00 Combo
$514.98
$494.98
Subtotal: $1,456.89
post links soon dinner
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January 25, 2010 12:39:31 AM

that seems like a good build.
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 12:39:50 AM
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January 25, 2010 12:43:32 AM

so which is better out of the 5850 and 5870
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 12:53:53 AM

The HD 5870 is about 23% better card but if you need Mouse KB speakers the HD 5850 still is a grate card for a 1920x1050 rez
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January 25, 2010 1:04:54 AM

nah i got mouse keyboard and speakers.so i should go with your build huh. can you post links?
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January 25, 2010 1:37:36 AM

i just noticed something about your build niklas. you did not post a psu.
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 1:43:18 AM

Niklas_13 said:
The HD 5870 is about 23% better card but if you need Mouse KB speakers the HD 5850 still is a grate card for a 1920x1050 rez

What is the PSU you have for your build (nice one by the way :D )? I did a double check and didn't see one, so is one included in your $1456.89 cost or does one need to be added to the cost?
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 1:49:51 AM

jobohobo89 said:
i just noticed something about your build niklas. you did not post a psu.

Me too :D 

If the cost doesn't include a PSU, I would go with the Corsair PSU I've listed and switch out monitors for the one I listed. The cost should come in slightly over $1,500 not including MIR's.
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January 25, 2010 1:51:23 AM

i went with your build tecmo. its jsut enough to run my games. not over powered. its perfect for me. thanks man.
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January 25, 2010 1:51:39 AM

Best answer selected by jobohobo89.
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 2:06:23 AM

tecmo34 said:
What is the PSU you have for your build (nice one by the way :D )? I did a double check and didn't see one, so is one included in your $1456.89 cost or does one need to be added to the cost?


:)  I was in a rush wife was yelling at me dinner time, No i didn't have it in there.

Well long as he is happy that's all that madders, gl with the build enjoy
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 2:17:25 AM

Niklas_13 said:
:)  I was in a rush wife was yelling at me dinner time
I hear you there!!!

When it happens to me, I switch over to the iPhone at the table... Hey, my daughter texts all through dinner, so why shouldn't I surf's Tom's forum... [:mousemonkey:5]
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 2:30:35 AM

Read through my Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC sticky in my sig. It walks you through building one, so you can build it yourself. :) 
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January 25, 2010 4:05:22 AM

I was also wondering if i should get a anti static mat and anti static wrist band.I don't know if they really work so i'm kind of skeptical.
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January 25, 2010 6:35:09 AM

hey techmo, does that motherboard support crossfire/ and also the memory you picked is at 1600 and the motherboard says it only supports 2200, 1333,1066,880. please let me know. instead of getting a 5850 iw as thinking of getting 2 5770s
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January 25, 2010 6:56:46 AM

okay im goign to crossfire on teh gigabyte ga-p55m-ud4, it says 2 pcie express slots(@16x or 2@x8) what exactly does that mean?what do you of the ASRock P55 Pro mobo
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 3:15:04 PM

jobohobo89 said:
I was also wondering if i should get a anti static mat and anti static wrist band.I don't know if they really work so i'm kind of skeptical.

I don't think these are needed. Just watch yourself and make sure to touch the case before touching any parts to remove any possible static.

jobohobo89 said:
hey tecmo, does that motherboard support crossfire/ and also the memory you picked is at 1600 and the motherboard says it only supports 2200, 1333,1066,880. please let me know. instead of getting a 5850 iw as thinking of getting 2 5770s

It supports Crossfire and supports DDR3 1600 RAM. Here is the Gigabyte's Memory Support list... http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/MemorySupport/mb_me...

I'm a fan of a single card setup with room to grow. If you run two 5770's, you don't have anywhere to go without buying all new cards. With the one 5850, if FPS become an issue, you can look to add a second card to improve your performance.

jobohobo89 said:
okay im goign to crossfire on teh gigabyte ga-p55m-ud4, it says 2 pcie express slots(@16x or 2@x8) what exactly does that mean?what do you of the ASRock P55 Pro mobo

You will not see much difference at all in 2@x8 over 2@x16, which is the bandwidth of the PCI-e slot. You will see a difference with the ASRock's 16x,x4 Crossfire setup, so I wouldn't go that route.
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a b C Monitor
January 25, 2010 11:04:49 PM

2 HD 5770 in xfire might give you a tad better FPS in some games but not all games will scale the same ( you can look up some benchmarks http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=1 ) like tecmo said latter down the road you will be better off with 2 HD 5850s in Xfire if you need them. + you will spend 340 for 2 HD 5770s vs 300 for one HD 5850


I made my PC to xfire at a latter time, but i am thinking now i probably will never xfire, Next time i am just going with a single card setup ( that's just me )
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