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4850 to 5850 upgrade. comments on system bottlenecking?

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January 19, 2010 3:35:18 PM

I've currently got a 4850 in a box I built about a year and a half ago with a E8400 @3.0ghz and 4gb of 1066 ram (full specs in profile--I'll repost them if requested).

I've been waiting to upgrade this card (was one of the first line ASUS cards with the Asian chica on it lol) cause it's not as powerful as I'd like for a 1920x1200 resolution in games like GTA4 and Crysis (as well as a fair share of first gen hiccups). I was originally gonna go for a 4890 or 4870 but since the 5800s have been out for a bit now, I figured it'll be best to spend the extra hundred and invest in the next gen. However, I'm concerned about the performance increase I'll see in my system based on any bottlenecking from my current setup. Also note I'm on Vista 32bit, if that matters. I know I'll see a definite huge improvement, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to be missing out on a great deal of improvement.

Please note that I'm not an uber-enthusiast trying to juice out every last frame in a perfectly updated system. I simply want to play the games that I have (CoD4, GTA4, Arkham Asylum, Crysis, etc) at great settings at the 1920x1200 resolution. I'd also like it to be supportive of next-gen.

I do intend on fully upgrading in the near future, but don't have enough clams at the moment thanks to returning to college.

Thanks for any input. All is greatly appreciated.

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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2010 4:09:34 PM

Hmm. If you're going to build your new system within about a year, I'd get the 5850 and keep it in the new setup. Otherwise, just get a second 4850 and crossfire them; it'll give you comparable performance for about $200 less. edit: that may actually be the better option regardless, since by the time you build your new system, there's a good chance a 5850 will have dropped $100 in price anyway.

Upgrading from a 4850 to a 4870/90 is not a big enough step up to be worth the money, in my opinion.
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a c 147 U Graphics card
January 19, 2010 4:52:00 PM

You can add another 4850 for cheap if you get it used off ebay or somewhere. That is a thought, however, there is potenial hassle because of heat issues or just crossfire issues in general. And since you state you are not really an enthusiest, this may not be the road for you to take.

Replacing your current card with a 5850 will be just single. You can probably get $50 from the card on ebay or a friend. You will see the normal dual core bottlenecks on any games that really benefit from a quad core chip. But for the most part you won't need to be concerned with this to much. A 5850 will give you a really good performance jump. I did see Arkham Asylum is on your list and from what I read this game dislikes ATI cards. It uses ALOT of PhysX which only Nvidia supports through hardware. You can disable this in the game but you loose alot of eye candy, just a thought.

Here is a good deal for a 5850, $300 and you get a free $70 Thermaltake PSU. I'd get it and sell off to a buddy or someone for $50.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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a c 147 U Graphics card
January 19, 2010 4:52:33 PM

capt_taco said:

Upgrading from a 4850 to a 4870/90 is not a big enough step up to be worth the money, in my opinion.

I totally agree
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January 19, 2010 5:36:47 PM

Thanks guys.
I've considered Crossfiring another 4850, the problem being that I don't like the one I have now. It's got heat issues and hiccups far too often.

It's also only a 512mb vram card. For games like GTA4, increased settings (particularly view distance) require more than that. And from a previous forum post a few months ago people were telling me that when crossfired with a 1gb card, it'll scale down to the 512mb.

So with this in mind, would it be smartest to just pop for a 5850? Futureproofing as well as meeting my performance needs?
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a c 147 U Graphics card
January 19, 2010 5:45:05 PM

if i'm not mistaken not even GTX285 (1GB version) able to cope with GTA4 view distance. btw getting 5850 is not a bad idea if you really have the cash.
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2010 5:48:47 PM

The 5850 will serve you well, both now and in the future, my vote is for the 5850 and CF that in due time, LOL
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2010 8:09:42 PM

dredsilver said:
Thanks guys.
I've considered Crossfiring another 4850, the problem being that I don't like the one I have now. It's got heat issues and hiccups far too often.


In that case, I'd say definitely the 5850 then. It'll still be a good card in your new machine, and in the meantime, while your CPU will be the weaker link, it's not terribly out of date. So any bottleneck will be high enough that you'll still be getting great performance in games.

And yes, you're correct about the memory issue. Crossfiring a 1GB card with a 512MB card is just going to be a waste; the 512MB card will be the retarded kid holding back the rest of the class.
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January 19, 2010 8:16:17 PM

get the 5850 and trade the 4850 for a GTS 250 for physX
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January 19, 2010 8:21:27 PM

I'll chime in that the 5850 is a good idea.
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January 19, 2010 9:11:37 PM

cybot_x1024 said:
get the 5850 and trade the 4850 for a GTS 250 for physX


It's locked out in nVidia's driver.
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a b U Graphics card
January 20, 2010 4:21:47 AM

sabot00 said:
It's locked out in nVidia's driver.



You can always use an an old driver or a hacked driver
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January 20, 2010 4:55:50 AM

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a c 272 U Graphics card
February 23, 2012 2:07:33 AM

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