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January 26, 2010 11:27:03 AM

Purpose here is to build an AMD based gaming computer. Spending 1500-1700 but like they say, the cheaper the better. This is a fresh build from scratch. Heres what i have so far:

Case:
Thermaltake V9 Black Edition ATX Computer Gaming Chassis with Dual Oversized 230mm Ultra-Silent Cooling Fans VJ400G1N2Z Mid Tower - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor:
LG W1953T-PF Black 18.5" 2ms GTG 16:9 Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 50000:1 w/ Smart Package - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard:
ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU:
SAPPHIRE 100281SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory:
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory w/ LEDs Model BL2KIT25664TN1608 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical:
LG Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Quoted price on newegg: $1,233.88 (i expect to spend $100 extra for shipping)

Already decided on a keyboard and mouse, so the only thing missing is a solid psu and a few cables.
I plan on getting a blu ray drive and upgrading to a raid configuration in the future.

Any comments on these posted parts or suggestions on a solid power supply unit would be appreciated.
Spent the last 5 hours milling over these parts so i'm done till tomorrow lol, thanks in advance guys.
January 26, 2010 11:40:50 AM

Mobo: Here's a cheaper board with 3 PCIe 16x slots and USB 3/SATA II support: GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 for $185.

RAM: Here's some faster sticks for $4 more: Corsair XMS3 2x2 GB DDR3 1600 CAS Latency 7.

Case: A much bigger case for about the same price: HAF 922 $90.

PSU: Are you planning on Crossfiring later? Overclocking? You really need to answer that before we can point you toward an exact unit. Generally, I recommend you stick to Antec Earthwatts, Corsair, Seasonic, FSP, PC Power & Cooling or (depending on needs) OCZ. All of these brands are quality and fairly priced.

And a side note:

CPU: You really should consider going with either the X4 955 or i5-750. The 965 is too close in price to the i5, and isn't as great in gaming. In addition, with the parts you've choosen, the i5's most recommended board (Asus P7P55D-E Pro) is about the same price as what you've got.
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January 26, 2010 12:00:30 PM

Yes, i am planning an upgrade to crossfire. Thanks for the suggestions guys i'll look it over and repost findings after work.
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January 26, 2010 12:01:16 PM

shortstuff's right. I didn't look at the monitor (I'm not good at picking them out...). Any of the new cards would be overkill for that monitor. The 5870 is overkill for any resolution under 1900x.

EDIT: Assuming you bump up to the bigger monitors, you won't need to Crossfire for a while. Reagrdless, an 850W PSU would be fine. I know Antec and Corsair have fairly cheap 850W units that would be good.
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January 26, 2010 6:50:18 PM

Wow, i must have been really tired when i posted. :) 
Fantastic suggestions from both of you, first off the monitor.

Upgrading to:
SAMSUNG 2243SWX Glossy Black 21.5" 5ms Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300cd/m2 DC 15000:1 (1000:1) w/ HDCP Support - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

To the MadAdmiral: keen eye on the case, mobo, and memory. Those look like quality upgrades to me and the advice will be taken.

Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD 790FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory:
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C7 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Again, quality responses from both. I didn't think about the screen resolution being too low for the gpu. Case seems good and its cheaper so thats a plus. The motherboard supporting usb 3.0 and new sata were things i overlooked as well and will add to the longevity of the system. And to be honest the memory was the last thing i was researching and i was somewhat tired/click happy lol. Yes, i will be doing some level of overclocking, mostly the memory up to 1600 from the stock 1333 and i am unsure how crazy i will get with the processor but i'll definetly be experimenting with it. Half the reason i splurged on the 5870 was to offset the need for crossfire for the time being, but when its necessary i will be doing it.

Currently looking into PSU, not rushing to any decision here but i know that a solid power supply is the backbone of any system, which will probably take me a bit over budget but i'll grin and bear it.

As far as the processor goes, well i have to be honest here i'm a bit of an AMD fan. True, i've seen the benchmarks and the i5's beat the 965 on most things. But as long as i'm not compromising too much performance i'd like to stick to AMD. Nonetheless, it is food for thought and i will have to look into an intel cpu and motherboard and see what i can come up with performance-wise. This will be done while my arms are crossed and pouting lol :) 

EDIT: Fully updated parts/price list to come when i settle on a PSU
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January 26, 2010 7:27:48 PM

Considering your budget, for that rig, I would probably buy this PSU:
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $190.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
...but you can pay considerably less if you are willing to give up some efficiency. I'd keep the modular cabling, since you're starting with just one GPU, and will have those thick extra PCIE power cables to stuff somewhere; and in this wattage range a lot of drive power connectors too.
This one just gives up a little efficiency:
CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
...and this one is "only" 80+ bronze:
Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - $120.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit: BTW, excellent reviews of the last two, and of the first one's slightly smaller brother the X650, may be found at www.jonnyguru.com.
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January 27, 2010 7:46:21 AM

Looks like its lining up to be something like this.

Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU:
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD 790FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory:
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C7 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU:
SAPPHIRE 100281SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor:
SAMSUNG 2494SW Glossy Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 50000:1 (1000:1) - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical:
LG Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total parts price: $1,507.91
I'm expecting to be around the 1,800 area after i get os and pay all the shipping.
First parts should be ordered by sometime next week. Those are parts that won't likely fluctuate much like the case, cables, drives. Processor price jumped up 15 bucks in the last 24 hrs, hoping to catch a slight price drop and will order in 2 weeks or so. Same goes for the other higher end parts.

I chose the PSU for its efficiency and reduced heat generation that comes with it. Oh and yes i upgraded to a 24 inch screen just for kicks. Aside from that if anyone happens across this thread in the next couple weeks and knows of a better deal that comes available feel free to post i'll be monitoring during this whole process.

Thanks to everyone for posting and helping out, i really appreciate it.
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