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January 26, 2010 8:12:15 PM

Hi guys, well I finally accumulated my funds and planning on making a purchase this evening for my parts. I was just hoping the community would be able to look over my list and make sure everything is in order and as money efficient as possible.

One important note:My friend had an extra copy of Windows 7 therefor I won't be needing to buy one. Yay.

Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
24.99

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
59.99 - 8$

Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
199.99

Vid Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
399.99

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
93.99

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
189.99

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
279.99

HDD/PS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
124.98

Arctic 7 grease
7.99

Approx: 1385.00

If anyone has some better last minute suggestions or compatibility issues with these parts or anything I've forgotten before I make this purchase. Please let me know :) 

Thank you all again for the help over the past few weeks. I hope this puter does the trick!

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January 26, 2010 8:26:02 PM

here are some facts...there is pretty much no way that case will fit a 5870, and with that amount of money you might as well either get a i5 750 (the computers more focused on gaming) or a i7 920 (more focused on video editing, work, and such) both are amazing, and both can do each others job, but the i7 860 is not too smart, so either 920 or 750. after thats done with, do you really need a 5870, especially when the 5850 is 100$ cheaper, just saying, my 4890 handles just about everything maxed at hd (no i dont play crysis) and the 5850 is much better, it MAULS a gtx285, which convincingly beats my 4890, like here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5850,2433...

the 5870 is better, but not by too much, and not really by 100$ in my opinion. any feedback with this would further help me make a better build for you, i5+5850=175$ saved=ssd or something.
January 26, 2010 8:33:01 PM

I see your point on the 5850. I think in my last thread when we were battling out whats right for me. I'll be doing video and photo editing with mild gaming. They said if I was gonna spend this much to go for 860 and not waste my money on the 920 to save money on Ram and Motherboard etc. since i7 will be outdated by the end of the year.

So they gave me an 860 build with 4g of ram and cheaper mobo.

If you could explain, and Im sorry Im a newbie on the subject, why is the 860 not smart? with all respect. I just have this daunting agenda that I'll have to remake my entire list on the eve of my purchase haha.

Edit: I also noticed the case is 18 inchs in depth and 8 inches wide and the card is 11inches in depth and 4 inches wide. I was just curious how you came to the conclusion that id wouldn't fit? No disrespect I just didn't understand the math.

I really appreciate you taking the time to clean all this up!
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January 26, 2010 8:47:07 PM
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i7 OUT DATED BY END OF YEAR...errrr no! the 1156 socket (860, 750...) will likely not support 6-cores ever, or for a very long time, and may even be discontinued. i7 (1366) will be the first to support 6-core, and stick around for a veryyyy long time. the cpu itself will be amazing and do everything amazingly for probably atleast 2-3 years to come, and after that it will still be amazing, just might not be able to max EVERYTHING out. thats the problem with 1156, after that 860 runs down, it doesnt look like there will be many alternatives...when the i7 runs down, just pop in a 6-core, and then 8-core, and who knows what else. also...the 860 cost the exact same as the 920, so it doesnt make sense not to buy the i7, when there are great sub/around 200$ mobos like these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and yea, if all you are doing is mild editing, you could easily do that with a 5850, maybe even a 5770. the only thing that might cost a little more is the ram, which makes sense since 6>4, and i personally think that 6 gigs is the sweet spot, especially since you are doing ram/cpu intensive tasks. the 860 isnt smart for all of these reasons, spend an extra 10, you get the i7, save 70, you get an equally good gaming cpu, just doesnt have HT.
January 26, 2010 8:51:47 PM

In light of all this I believe Im convinced against a shadow of any doubt that if Im looking for longevity, I should try to build a i7 920.

What modifications would I have to make to my build, apart from mobo, CPU, and Ram. would the rest be compatible?
January 26, 2010 8:57:41 PM

I think what he is getting at is the 920 is only $10 more than the 860 yet if offers the benefit of lga 1366. 1366 will allow you to upgrade your cpu in the future and it offers triple channel memory. 1156 may not see 6core cpus, 1366 will for sure.

In short:
If you are trying to save money go for an i5 and a 5850.
if you want maximum gaming go for the i5 and buy the 5870.
if you want to edit videos and run photoshop with mild gaming get i7 920 and 5850.

The last option describes what you seem to need this system for with mild gaming being the huge key phrase. 100 saved on the graphics card would still let you game like crazy and would give you a computer with 2 more gigs of ram and a very solid upgrade path. The 2 gigs of ram will help a lot with photo and video editing.

If you go i7 860 you likely won't be able to upgrade and will have to spend 220 on a maximum of 8 gigs of ram.

either way you cut it, i7, other i7 or i5, at that screen resolution an 5870 is overkill unless you want to max crysis (and at that point you will need 2 5870s). It is even more overkill if gaming is not your main or only focus of the system.
January 26, 2010 8:59:04 PM

ahh I was late. Mobo cpu and ram are all you need to change. Buy a good heatsink so you can overclock that 920 up to 3.5ish and you will be good for a long while.
January 26, 2010 9:00:35 PM
January 26, 2010 9:05:45 PM

Thanks Ewood for describing in more depth. I appreciate the support from both of you! I guess who helped me last misunderstood what I was trying to do with this computer. Or I misunderstood his reasoning. Either or you both seem very qualified on the matter.

I will be doing graphic design with many adobe products as my main purpose but I do enjoy occasional gaming.

I hope my new list is compatible and expresses more longevity than my previous list. to be honest it did feel a little weird going for the 860 but this guy who checked my list prior to my purchase was so set on not getting the 920.

However, You both seem pretty certain this is the better way to go. especially with the extended use of the 1366.

Thanks again and confirmation on my final list would be great and I'll make this purchase in a bit.

Thanks again!
January 26, 2010 9:11:30 PM

try this ram, same specs except its 266 mhz faster with same timings for only $10 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire is a decent brand, but I like HIS and there warranty/support and it is also $10 cheaper.

If you plan to OC at all (you're crazy not to with that cpu!) don't forget a cooler. Try this Rosewill. It's cheap, well build and performs great (I have one on my "media center" PC).

looks good!
January 26, 2010 9:17:16 PM

Thanks for the heads up on the 1600!
My total comes out to be 1383.90 which is actually a little less than my 860 setup. though that had the 5870.

Regardless. It's a decent savings. Im getting more Ram, equivalent graphics, and longevity. Definitely worth the savings.

So this is my final list. A little hic up there at the end but Im really glad I came back to confirm everything before I put this through.

You guys have been great! Wish me luck. .. Cuz now I have to build the thing haha.

edit: I think I'll buy a cooler later with an additional HDD if I plan to overclock. I really dunno how to do that but it seems like everyone is. Plus I have some friends that can prolly figure that out. thanks for the tips!
January 27, 2010 12:35:59 AM

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