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January 21, 2010 1:45:02 AM

Hey guys, I recently upgraded my graphics from 2 8800GT's to an HD 5870 and I was running some benchmarks and overall I think they're probably hampered a little bit by my older Q6600 but World in Conflict is only giving me ~30 fps when I used to get ~40 or so fps (this is at very high with no AA or AF) and when TH did the benchmark with the 5870 at 1680x1050 they got 93 FPS so I'm not sure why it would be so slow, any ideas?

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January 21, 2010 2:03:41 AM

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-ca...

Fallout 3 and The Last Remnant FPS are within ~5 of eachother with the 5870 on top. However Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X the 8800s win by ~5 FPS. The rest of the games 5870 wins by alot. Perhaps World in Conflict favors your 8800s like Hawx.

On a side note, I have noticed a handfull of posts over the week about people saying they have upgraded to a 5770 from a 8800 and experience simmilar lack of an FPS boost they where hoping for.
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January 21, 2010 2:19:39 AM

Did you reformat when you switched from the 8800s to the 5870 (or at least do a really thorough driver sweeper)? If possible, try a full reformat or second windows installation to rule out basic software glitches.
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January 21, 2010 10:27:58 PM

Must be software. Check for old left over drivers. I get between 80 and 100 fps on WIC with my 5870. Great game :) 
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January 22, 2010 12:34:46 AM

abdul89 said:
Must be software. Check for old left over drivers. I get between 80 and 100 fps on WIC with my 5870. Great game :) 


Really? Frick...I just did a complete cleanout of my drivers using that driver cleaner tool and then reinstalled but it didn't seem to change anything. What kind of processor are you running it with?
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January 22, 2010 12:38:45 AM

8800GT (or GTX/Ultra's) = Less than a 4850, 4850X2 beat GTX 285 (about as much as 5850), so 2x 8800GT's should be quite below a 5870.
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January 22, 2010 1:55:49 AM

sabot00 said:
8800GT (or GTX/Ultra's) = Less than a 4850, 4850X2 beat GTX 285 (about as much as 5850), so 2x 8800GT's should be quite below a 5870.


Yeah, that's why I think something must be wrong.
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January 26, 2010 12:19:18 PM

Just came to the realization that my CPU is bottlenecking the graphics card. Ran Far Cry 2 benchmark @ 1680x1050 on Very High settings and got 48.68 fps...ran again with Ultra and it only dropped to 46.93....then again with 4xAA and achieved 45.89 fps...looks like the problem isn't the GPU after all...
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January 26, 2010 12:27:58 PM

Push that C2Q to 4 Ghz and unleash the card!!

Seriously, WIC is a the way it's meant to be played title, and if you had physx turned up, you may now be taxing ur CPU, rather than ur card

if you want things like physx and what nots (nvidia are doing some shady things like capping the physx cpu usage and etc. and if you already have a physx capable card, why not), throw in one of ur old 8800 GT aloneside the 5870 and grab that hacked driver that allows for a co-processor and let it do the nvidia locked in tech


One day, ppl will stop doing things like that and make it all open, or at least conform to a standard that is set, even if its set by M$
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January 26, 2010 12:35:37 PM

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if you want things like physx and what nots (nvidia are doing some shady things like capping the physx cpu usage and etc. and if you already have a physx capable card, why not), throw in one of ur old 8800 GT aloneside the 5870 and grab that hacked driver that allows for a co-processor and let it do the nvidia locked in tech


Actually, I just did that, had it in for the Far Cry 2 benchmarks I just posted...but I'll try WIC and see how the 8800 affects it...also I bumped up my OC to 3.375GHz and it didn't seem to help FC2...at all...which i found odd....I'll see how high I can get it but I'm only on mainstream water cooling so I doubt I'll be able to reach 4.0
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January 26, 2010 2:59:00 PM

FC2 does not use Physx, only a small number of games uses it extensively, and the most recent one is bat man where they even had the gulls to disable AA on ati cards....

BTW, a Q6600 can get to 3.9 or even 4 GHz on AIR, so what kind of liquid cooler are you using?? If it's like a chapo sub 100 dollar one then a good air like a TRUE or a CCF would perform better, but hey they would look less cool (unless you get a zalaman that looks sexy, but dang they perform like a dog in a summer's day..)
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January 26, 2010 3:37:17 PM

theholylancer said:
FC2 does not use Physx, only a small number of games uses it extensively, and the most recent one is bat man where they even had the gulls to disable AA on ati cards....

BTW, a Q6600 can get to 3.9 or even 4 GHz on AIR, so what kind of liquid cooler are you using?? If it's like a chapo sub 100 dollar one then a good air like a TRUE or a CCF would perform better, but hey they would look less cool (unless you get a zalaman that looks sexy, but dang they perform like a dog in a summer's day..)


I have a Corsair H50 setup, my previous cooler was a Xigmatek HDT-S1283 which worked okay, but not THAT great and it was constantly filling with dust since my Antec 900 doesn't have filters. But I keep trying to OC more but just can't seem to keep it stable, despite having a high-end 780i board and a G0 stepped Q6600 which is supposed to OC easily...
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January 26, 2010 4:22:54 PM

Its the MB limiting your OC. In my experience the 680i/780i boards dont like overclocking quads too much, the highest i could get mine was 3.2Ghz, but when i switched to an X38 board (maximus formula) i managed 4.1Ghz liquid cooled.
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January 26, 2010 5:17:29 PM

the NV chipsets are kinda ify for those days,

dang it what happened to the NF4 days???
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January 26, 2010 5:41:48 PM

I know it!! Man, on my old Asus NF4 SLI board, I could rocket the clock on my Athlon 64 straight up!

On my 750i board, my Xeon X3220 G0 (which should be higher binned than the Q6600's) won't go past 3.45GHz, and that's at 1.5v! Waaaaayy too much voltage for my liking. So 3.15Ghz at 1.3v will do.
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January 26, 2010 6:06:55 PM

Wow... nice to know that by using dual outdated 8800's you can achieve more or less the same results as a 5870 while saving 200.00$ in the process....



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January 26, 2010 6:08:08 PM

man AMD's move really alienated NV's chipsets, and I guess the whole TWIMTP thing is leveraged at AMD lol


pot shots and pot shots, when you stop competing for the dollar, and try to do cheap shots (locking things in, be it chipset or features) consumers lose
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January 26, 2010 6:08:55 PM

OvrClkr said:
Wow... nice to know that by using dual outdated 8800's you can achieve more or less the same results as a 5870 while saving 200.00$ in the process....



pretty sure that he found that the CPU he has is bottlenecking it, because of the 1680 settings rofl.

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January 26, 2010 6:12:00 PM

theholylancer said:
pretty sure that he found that the CPU he has is bottlenecking it, because of the 1680 settings rofl.


He needs to bump that CPU up to at least 3.5Ghz if he wants to see that 5870 scream ;) 

LGA 775 boards are dirt cheap, time for a new board [:jaydeejohn:5]
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January 26, 2010 6:42:39 PM

OvrClkr said:
He needs to bump that CPU up to at least 3.5Ghz if he wants to see that 5870 scream ;) 

LGA 775 boards are dirt cheap, time for a new board [:jaydeejohn:5]



well, the hassle of taking old board out and then etc is kinda large...

I know for you it's easy, but when I had to take my old DFI NF4 Ultra-D out to install a SI-120, it took a long time and was just a pain.
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January 26, 2010 6:54:51 PM

theholylancer said:
well, the hassle of taking old board out and then etc is kinda large...

I know for you it's easy, but when I had to take my old DFI NF4 Ultra-D out to install a SI-120, it took a long time and was just a pain.


Well it not about being easy, I just like to take my PC apart every 3 months or so just to dust everything off... Putting it back together is the best part ;) 
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January 26, 2010 7:05:06 PM

I don't understand...at the time that I bought it, most reviewers were saying that the 780i was the way to go since it overclocked higher and better than the X38 (or was it 48?) but now it seems that that's not the case...I've got my Q6600 @ 3.15GHz with voltages on Auto but I can't seem to get it any higher, even when I start ramping up the voltages...any ideas?
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January 26, 2010 7:05:22 PM

well i managed to bent a few pin on my 3200 vinnie when I put on a fresh coat of AS5 after 3 years, so I kinda don't like doing that

but hey I learned that you definitely need to apply even pressure putting on and taking off the over sized coolers, the SI 120's spring system is the worst imo, the new TRUEs with the screws are much much better, and thank lord I ditched the "clip ons" they come with that looks extremely flimsy, easy to install for the noob, but hell it's a accident waiting to happen.
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January 26, 2010 7:18:07 PM

Yea, the push pins are a joke... Backplates and large thumbscrews is the way to go =) , makes life so much easier......
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January 26, 2010 7:19:35 PM

bikeracer4487 said:
I don't understand...at the time that I bought it, most reviewers were saying that the 780i was the way to go since it overclocked higher and better than the X38 (or was it 48?) but now it seems that that's not the case...I've got my Q6600 @ 3.15GHz with voltages on Auto but I can't seem to get it any higher, even when I start ramping up the voltages...any ideas?



well I imagine it also had to do with the quality of the board and what nots, the asus maximums are not exactly cheap or lower end eh

ocer should know more about the history of each, and maybe you can find some nice ones from the classfied section or ebay lol
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January 26, 2010 7:34:42 PM

bikeracer4487 said:
I don't understand...at the time that I bought it, most reviewers were saying that the 780i was the way to go since it overclocked higher and better than the X38 (or was it 48?) but now it seems that that's not the case...I've got my Q6600 @ 3.15GHz with voltages on Auto but I can't seem to get it any higher, even when I start ramping up the voltages...any ideas?


It can be a number of things, the CPU, wrong values set in the Bios, the board itself.... Have you tried any other CPU on that 780i?
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January 20, 2011 8:12:48 PM

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