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a b V Motherboard
August 28, 2010 10:24:01 AM

Welcome
Well, I have a problem with my motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4 and exactly have a problem with the BIOS because not long ago I installed the new BIOS F8 and it turned out that after this change does not work for me on my Intel Core i5-750 technology Turbo Boost. It turned out that she has a newer version of BIOS F9, which improved the compatibility of the probability of Turbo Boost so I installed it but unfortunately Tb is still not working. The BIOS options I have TB set to Enabled, has also tried to reset the BIOS with the jumper Clearcmos, has also written to support GIGABYTE, I did everything as I said, but unfortunately it's not possible and you just do not know what to do to make this technology worked.


Sorry, and please forgive me if I made any spelling mistakes but I'm Polish.

PS. I think that I decided to revert to the old BIOS version F2 all and that will work as before the change but, unfortunately, now Turbo Boost does not even work on the old version of the BIOS.

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a b V Motherboard
August 28, 2010 11:35:34 AM

How do you know turbo boost is not working?
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
August 28, 2010 12:26:47 PM

Before all the changes in activity were seen in Turbo Boost programs such as everest, cpu-z, now up to these programs show 2.6GHz. I downloaded a program Intel Turbo Boost Technology Monitor but he also does not show that the Turbo Boost. I did even a few test program SuperPi but he ordered the processor up to 2.6GHz.

I enclose a picture yet because the M.I.T option I wonder why the Turbo Ratio I have the same multiplier as in the Non Turbo Ratio, the gentlemen from Gigabyte I also just posted that the Turbo Ratio should be greater than the coefficient of Non Turbo Ratio, And I have both same.

http://iv.pl/images/33484437952494655321.jpg
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a c 717 V Motherboard
August 28, 2010 4:22:22 PM

First, install and run Intel's TBM {select if available the Polish version/top left} - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&...

Next, verify all of the BIOS settings are indeed correct:
Advanced CPU Core Features:
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech. {Enabled}
CPU Cores Enabled {All}
CPU Multi-Threading {Enabled}
Remaining all set -> {Auto}
Virtualization Technology {optional Enabled or Disabled}

Polish manual (start on ~pg 40}- http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_g...(ud4)_pl.pdf

Good Luck!
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
August 29, 2010 5:22:07 PM

All options in the BIOS set correctly but still no program shows that Turbo Boost works.
a c 717 V Motherboard
August 30, 2010 1:49:42 AM

Are you OC'ing and have you changes the CPU multiplier? (e.g. 21-22 and set on 22) If so that would explain the "missing" TB.
August 30, 2010 10:30:05 AM

That is, so now I have a BIOS F2 and on it I have a multiplier from 9 to 20 but as for the first time I changed the BIOS version F2 to F8 in the BIOS multiplier was from 9 to 15 only set so I set a 21 instead of 20 and then no longer I could change it to 20 or so but now has returned back to the BIOS F2 and wszytsko I thought that would be fine but unfortunately it is not although the multiplier is set from 9 to 20. And now again wgrywając latest F9 BIOS I have it set straight multiplier to 9 to 21.


Is there an unfortunate change could have a multiplier effect on the TB is not working?



PS. Sorry but I had to register again because my account has been deactivated because it did not receive any email with a link to register.
a c 717 V Motherboard
August 30, 2010 3:03:27 PM

mati3910 said:
Is there an unfortunate change could have a multiplier effect on the TB is not working?

If you set the CPU Multiplier to its "maximum" value or are OC the CPU then TB won't work when/if you already set it to its' "maximum" value. ~ It's already running at full (TB "turbo") speed. The ~ exceptions are CPU with an unlocked multiplier and where the BIOS allows custom "TB" settings. Anytime I OC the CPU I typically disable any "turbo" settings (DDR or CPU).

CPU "Turbo Boost" is used only when the CPU is set to a lesser value than its maximum; some other BIOS setting can also interfere with or prevent TB. Example: if the CPU has a maximum of {22} but is set to {21} and if TB is properly configured then "under stress" the CPU Multiplier will temporarily raise 1 value {22}.

Info - http://www.intel.com/technology/turboboost/
August 30, 2010 7:46:29 PM

So what can I do now that Turbo Boost began to function normally?
a c 717 V Motherboard
August 30, 2010 9:26:19 PM

Then you BCLK clearly is not set to its maximum value which is fine, and if it works now then problem solved.

The above was only meant to explain the possible reasons TB doesn't work.

Good Luck!
August 31, 2010 6:42:35 PM

So in that case I need to reduce the CPU multiplier?
a c 717 V Motherboard
August 31, 2010 9:55:43 PM

For TB to work and not knowing what other changes you made you'll need to set the CPU Multiplier {Max Value - 1}. If you are indeed currently using the CPU Multiplier {Max Value} you should be fine; your CPU supports "SpeedStep Technology" which essentially throttles-down the CPU anyway and the only difference is TB takes the {Default CPU Multiplier + 1}.

As I said or tried to say, when I OC {most} CPUs I disable TB. Exceptions are unlocked CPUs {i7 980x} and then too there are exceptions.

If you don't know "what changes" you've made then in the BIOS simply "Load Optimized" and only make "needed changes", if any, to {e.g. DDR, HDD, etc} and lastly "Exit & Save" and you're TB will indeed work properly. Meaning, unless you know exactly what you're changing - leave it alone.
September 1, 2010 11:21:26 AM

Load the BIOS default settings and nothing changes in at least show no programs continue to act TB.
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 1, 2010 2:18:33 PM

Off the top of my head, two other environments "might" effect the TB. While I doubt items #1 or #2 are the culprits, item #1 simply will cause any corruption in the registry to repaired. The Utilities, especially Gigabyte's have a proven track record of causing all sort of problems.

1. In the Device Manager - open and expand the "Processor" tree
A. First, try to "Update Driver..."
B. Next, if failure, "Uninstall" and restart the system

2. In Power Management change the scheme
A. WIN 7 change to "High performance"
B. WIN XP change "Home/Office Desk"

3. Uninstall ANY Gigabyte Utility software {Smart Recovery2, Easy Tune6, Cloud OC, (On/Off Charge), AutoGreen, Smart6, Dynamic Energy Saver™ 2, @BIOS, (XHD (eXtreme HardDrive)), or Smart TPM} - these utilities cause all sorts of problems; the utilities marked within "()" might be needed.

4. Uninstall Intel® Desktop Control Center - http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/software/dcc/

Restart after uninstalling anything to test.

5. Since you've updated to F9 - update to F10 BIOS which address TB.
September 2, 2010 4:22:18 PM

I did steps 1,2,3 and still nothing happens.

As for point 5 is for my motherboard does not have BIOS version F10.



PS. And do to reinstall the system can give something? System: Windows 7 Professional x86
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 2, 2010 4:29:40 PM

F10 ~ my error GA-P55-UD4{P}.

6. Uninstall ANY application(s) that are set to monitor TB.

7. In the BIOS Load Optimized - as the ONLY change {change NO other settings}.

8. Open the Device Manager, expand Processors tree, and delete all the listed Processors, and restart; the drivers will all be replaced and if there's any registry errors they "should be" fixed.

9. Last resort Clear-CMOS; there are a variety of ways to do this: Clear CMOS button, shorting 2 connections {refer to your manual}, and unplugging your PC + Removing the CMOS battery for at least 15 minutes. You'll need to re-set the system time & date.

If this does not fix the problem then start a ticket with GA. http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/technical-sup...

Good Luck!
September 3, 2010 12:53:27 PM

Unfortunately, it's possible. Gigabyte technical support I have already written, I did it all what I wrote and it did not help and suggested I just have to give a guarantee on the motherboard and so I probably will.
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 3, 2010 3:16:05 PM

Every possible scenario I could think of I posted, and I'm sorry it didn't help.

After you get the new MOBO - please update.

Good Luck!
September 3, 2010 6:26:07 PM

Thanks so much for your help :) 
September 9, 2010 1:36:27 PM

I wanted to ask something because even when the computer starts today, I noticed that the 1-2 second bar on the Intel Turbo Boost Monitor moved up and quickly dropped? What's this all about?
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 9, 2010 2:01:28 PM

mati3910 said:
I wanted to ask something because even when the computer starts today, I noticed that the 1-2 second bar on the Intel Turbo Boost Monitor moved up and quickly dropped? What's this all about?


More than likely it is from start-up apps ~ Windows Update, etc starting/stopping.

BTW - Glad to hear that the MOBO fixed the TB issue. :D 
September 9, 2010 2:59:26 PM

So what then?
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 9, 2010 5:12:04 PM

If I understood correctly, upon startup you noticed TB working and shortly thereafter it stopped.

Meaning, TB only works under load and "turns-off" when there's no load. To verify this run an app like Prime95 and look at the TB under full load. The VAST majority of the time your PC is throttled-down and TB should be off.

Official - http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/
Client D/L - http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=2
September 10, 2010 1:18:12 PM

jaquith said:
If I understood correctly, upon startup you noticed TB working and shortly thereafter it stopped.


Exactly :) 


PS.And as for this program which I entered Prime95 then I just run it and give TEST, or what?
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 10, 2010 3:25:40 PM

Yes, run it an look at the TB "monitoring" app at the same time. The TB "should" be on under a full load from Prime95.
September 12, 2010 10:20:09 AM

I did test this program Prime95 TB but unfortunately did not work.

PS. Is it possible that TB is blocking some application?
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 12, 2010 2:52:12 PM

^ No {see below}. TB is a BIOS controlled entity.

Suggestion, Run MSCONGIG and select Diagnostic, restart and test again Prime 95. This will R/O any chance of an app conflict.

Before I posted - "3. Uninstall ANY Gigabyte Utility software {Smart Recovery2, Easy Tune6, Cloud OC, (On/Off Charge), AutoGreen, Smart6, Dynamic Energy Saver™ 2, @BIOS, (XHD (eXtreme HardDrive)), or Smart TPM} - these utilities cause all sorts of problems; the utilities marked within "()" might be needed. "
September 12, 2010 3:54:13 PM

Today or tomorrow can see it with MSCONFIG. Applications from Gigabyte already uninstalled but I do not think they removed the totality and rubbish left on them, how to remove them completely from your computer?
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 12, 2010 4:21:08 PM

See what remnant(s) if any are left in the C:\Program Files and remove them {if uninstalled} - if you screw-up leave them in the Trash and right-click to Restore.
September 15, 2010 3:21:03 PM

Uninstalled everything, cleaned the registry or from the residue after application GIGABYTE. Then I start Prime95 but TB has not worked.
September 15, 2010 4:23:27 PM

I have already written to the Gigabyte support and asked me to only send the motherboard to the service, so I think, however, it will send.


PS. And if re-install a new system could be something to help? Gentlemen of the GIGABYTE even earlier advised me to such a solution but not too much when I had to do it.
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 15, 2010 5:26:17 PM

I'd ask GA what specifically...

If you did exactly what I listed above then I know of no other remedy than to exchange the MOBO <or> live with the problem. TB is more about "Marketing" than "Practical" use 90%+ of the time.
September 15, 2010 6:13:48 PM

They wrote to me almost the same as it was already written above.

On the one hand I can live with that because in the future wanting to OC the processor is TB and so I do not need it but on the other hand is better to have fully efficient motherboard.
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 15, 2010 7:19:58 PM

One simple setting is to change the CPU multiplier to it's highest value, and frankly it's better than TB. Your rig will idle down while not in use anyway. Trust me, TB just sounds COOL, Marketing gimmick by Intel.
September 16, 2010 1:16:16 PM

I just hope that this hidden problem that caused no effect TB will not interfere in something in the future.
a c 717 V Motherboard
September 16, 2010 2:34:12 PM

No Guarantees here! The Mfg's warranty is the only guarantee.

If this is really bothering you as it seems it does, RMA both your MOBO and CPU, reinstall your OS with no apps that can or will effect your BIOS and/or registry that "may" also interfere with TB.

That's the best possible answer.
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