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I3 + HD5850 or i5 + HD4890?

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January 29, 2010 10:49:51 AM

Hi everyone!

This is my doubt. What will bottleneck what? What will give me better results in games? What will be a "good gaming system" for more time?

Thanks!

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a b B Homebuilt system
January 29, 2010 10:59:34 AM

It's better to be cpu-bottlenecked than gpu- for gaming. So it's i3 + 5850.

How much are you paying? What parts are you reusing? What kinda games & other usage?
January 29, 2010 11:43:00 AM

p55ibexpeak said:
It's better to be cpu-bottlenecked than gpu- for gaming. So it's i3 + 5850.

How much are you paying? What parts are you reusing? What kinda games & other usage?


Hi! Thanks for your answer.

This is my first gaming home built system I'm trying to make...so I don't have any parts to re-use.

I think (please, correct me if I'm wrong in something) I have clear the rest of the system:

SilverStone ST50F-ES 500W
Antec Three Hundred
Seagate ST3500418AS 500 GB
GeIL Kit DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1333
Asus P7H55-M PRO

I've been checking prices. The i5-650 + 4890 system will be about 700 Euros, and the i3-530 + 5850 something like 780 Euros.

I will use the PC mainly for gaming. My actual favourite games: COD4 and CODMW2, GTR Evo and Dirt 2.

Thanks for your help!

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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
January 29, 2010 12:04:42 PM

Well, I certainly wouldn't do the i5-650. It's not worth it when the i5-750 is almost the same price.

And right now, there is no such thing as being CPU bottlenecked. The GPU is always going to be the bottleneck.

Have you considered AMD? If you get a X4 620 and Asus M4A79XTD EVO, you might be able to afford an HD 5870. And that would be a better gaming system.

Refer to this article. The i3 is on par with the lower AMD X4s (630), but priced more like the higher X4s (955). The i5-660 is on par with the X4 955, but priced like the i5. So really, I wouldn't go with either the i3 or i5. Go with a cheaper AMD build, and you may be able to improve the GPU, or other parts of the build.
January 29, 2010 7:14:34 PM

The HD5770 gives you dx11 support with performance greater than the 4890 and at a lower price. But if you step up to the 58xx you take a huge price leap.
January 30, 2010 12:27:10 AM

ram3500v8 said:
The HD5770 gives you dx11 support with performance greater than the 4890 and at a lower price. But if you step up to the 58xx you take a huge price leap.


False. The 4890 performs better than the 5770.
January 30, 2010 1:51:44 PM

cereeal said:
False. The 4890 performs better than the 5770.



True, the benchmark I saw only showed certain games, ones where the 5770 excelled. But with the lower power consumption of the 5770 you can overclock more.
January 30, 2010 1:57:16 PM

If the 5830 comes out for mainstream cards anytime soon, it would be a great choice. I'm pretty sure that it is faster at stock clocks than the 4890.
February 3, 2010 1:17:26 PM

Hi again!

I've checking, and the situation has changed, and at this moment I have the chance to change i5+4890 by i3+5850, expending only 25 Euros more in the second option than in the first. I want to be sure that I buy a system that allows me playing games for, let's say, 3 years, and I'm not sure if the i3 or the 4890 allow me this. What would you say?

What would you buy in this situation?

Will the i3 bottleneck the 5850?

Thanks again.
February 3, 2010 9:14:37 PM

CPU bottleneck is not as big of a deal as gpu bottleneck. Playing some games I had my 3.8ghz cpu @92-100% usage with an 8600gt, but when I moved up to a 4850 the

cpu was being used the same amount but frame rates went way up. Go with the 5850, since developers seem more willing to start using dx11, it will give you more life on

new games. As drivers get better and dx11 patches are released, performance should go up. A 4xxx series card will not be optimized nearly as well for new games.
February 5, 2010 9:44:17 AM

Hi!

Thanks for all your support... Finally I have decided, as it's said in my country, "to throw the house through the window" and go to the i5-750 and a Sapphire 5850.

I'll tell you exactly the system I'm getting...

Hope I have taken the right decision, as it is a little bit above my first budget...

Thanks again!
February 5, 2010 8:31:29 PM

a man after my own heart ... when you can't decide which side to make a sacrifice on, just don't make a sacrifice!
February 5, 2010 9:18:20 PM

The i3 is a entry level CPU. Lower CPU power. Plus with the i9's about to hit the market you may be better off waiting to see what it does to lower the prices on all the other chips. If you really want to find out the differences and all the details about the different CPU's you can do things like look them up on Wikipedia and there is also http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ for benchmark scores and many different CPU's.
February 9, 2010 7:00:32 AM

Hi!

I've finally ordered the following parts:

Processor: Intel Core I5-750

Mother Board: Gigabyte P55-UD3

Case:Antec Three Hundred black ATX

G.Card: Sapphire 1GB D5 X HD5850

HDD: Seagate 500GB SAT2 3500418AS

Power Supply: Sharkoon Rush Power 600W ATX

RAM: DDR3 4GB 1333-999 LV Gold K2 OCZ

Extra Fan: Antec Case Fan PRODBB120x120x25

DVD: LG 22x GH-22NS 22x SA

Monitor: LG 21,5 L Fla.W2261 VP-PF A+D FullHD


What do you think? Is it a balanced system?

The total price will be: 815 Euros PC + 145 Euros Monitor = 960 Euros (including taxes).

Thanks for everything!

a c 84 B Homebuilt system
February 9, 2010 10:04:24 AM

Everything but the PSU looks good. I've never heard of Sharkoon, which probably means it's not a quality unit. It might be ok, but don't be surprised if you have some trouble.
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