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Anonymous
February 9, 2005 11:14:16 PM

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my 5080 is acting very strange as of late and i'm wondering if the HD isn't
going bad. are there any utilities out there to somehow run and see if it's
going bad or not?

when i change channels, say choosing 124, it will change to 12 or 4 or
something weird. also, when i taped 24 the other night, and replayed it,
there were "hiccups" in the sound throughout the entire recording. never
happened before.

TB

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Anonymous
February 10, 2005 5:30:58 AM

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T.B. wrote:
> my 5080 is acting very strange as of late and i'm wondering if the HD isn't
> going bad. are there any utilities out there to somehow run and see if it's
> going bad or not?
>
> when i change channels, say choosing 124, it will change to 12 or 4 or
> something weird. also, when i taped 24 the other night, and replayed it,
> there were "hiccups" in the sound throughout the entire recording. never
> happened before.
>
> TB
>
>
Sounds like a bad HD, however.... I'd be interested in the answer to
your question myself
Anonymous
February 10, 2005 1:14:47 PM

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:30:58 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>T.B. wrote:
>> my 5080 is acting very strange as of late and i'm wondering if the HD isn't
>> going bad. are there any utilities out there to somehow run and see if it's
>> going bad or not?
>>
>> when i change channels, say choosing 124, it will change to 12 or 4 or
>> something weird. also, when i taped 24 the other night, and replayed it,
>> there were "hiccups" in the sound throughout the entire recording. never
>> happened before.
>>
>> TB
>>
>>
>Sounds like a bad HD, however.... I'd be interested in the answer to
>your question myself

I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
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Anonymous
February 10, 2005 11:26:44 PM

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>
> I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
> shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
> Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
>
Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
before I upgrade the drive.
Anonymous
February 12, 2005 2:42:21 PM

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what is the best drive to upgrade to?

"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>
> >
> > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
> > shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
> > Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
> >
> Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
> had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
> before I upgrade the drive.
Anonymous
February 12, 2005 4:08:46 PM

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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:42:21 -0600, "T.B."
<balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote:

>what is the best drive to upgrade to?
>

Last time I upgraded (and I'm about to do it again) I used a Western
Digital drive model number WD1200B. This is a 120MB drive.

>"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> >
>> > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
>> > shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
>> > Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
>> >
>> Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
>> had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
>> before I upgrade the drive.
>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
February 13, 2005 1:47:13 AM

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"T.B." <balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote in news:110sfqkbh6mae94
@corp.supernews.com:

> what is the best drive to upgrade to?
>

Supposedly, the 5400 RPM Maxtor QuickView drives are made specifically
for PVR applications. I upgraded my 5040 with a 160 gig QuickView drive
about eight months ago, and haven't had any problems with it (though
there are plenty of successful upgrades using other drives as well).

FWIW, their benefits are claimed to be:

* Thermal Control: On board sensors monitor temperature and adjust
characteristics as necessary to keep the temperature optimal.
* Acoustic Management: Maxtor QuickView drives are specially tuned
to run as quietly as possible.
* A/V Streaming: QuickView drives have been optimized and tuned to
provide consistent data to the PVR processor. Standard desktop drives
can hang while retrying drive reads - QuickView drives know to move
ahead and provide more data to keep video smooth.
* Error Recovery: Desktop drives retry on errors to make sure that
your Excel spreadsheet is exactly right - it's imperative. But when
watching video, if one block of data is bad, you may not even notice a
dark spot on one frame for 1/30th of a second. So these drives are tuned
to move past errors faster, putting the stream of data as top priority.
Where desktop drives often cause stutters, these drives run smooth.
Anonymous
February 13, 2005 4:08:18 AM

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T.B. wrote:
> what is the best drive to upgrade to?
>
> "Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>
>>>I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
>>>shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
>>>Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
>>>
>>
>>Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
>>had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
>>before I upgrade the drive.
>
>
>
I just popped the upgrade drive into my 5040 (it's not a 5200 using the
same numbering standard) and... All I can say it it appears to be very
happy, In fact, I appear to be very happy too.

In my case I used a pre-formatted drive so I had to run through setup
again, but since it's still set up in "Training mode" I did not have to
offload shows. (Just deleted them, all but one was on Video tape, it's
on another hard drive) Next week it goes "live"

Wife really liked the way I "ran downstairs" for the show I recorded on
My Replay so she could watch it (He, He, cursor up a few times. right
once and back down, you there)
Anonymous
February 13, 2005 11:41:38 PM

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you prolly meant 120 GB. anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
translate to?
also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
upgrade?

thanks

TB

> Last time I upgraded (and I'm about to do it again) I used a Western
> Digital drive model number WD1200B. This is a 120MB drive.
>
> >"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
> >> > shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
> >> > Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
> >> >
> >> Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
> >> had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
> >> before I upgrade the drive.
> >
>
> --
> Mark Lloyd
> has a Replay 5xxx
> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>
> "It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
> paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
> anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
February 14, 2005 1:14:12 AM

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:41:38 -0600, "T.B."
<balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote:

>you prolly meant 120 GB.

Right. Sorry about the error. I get used to the way things used to be,
when 120MB was rilly big.

> anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
>translate to?

Each hour of recording uses less than 1GB. For that drive, the
capacity would be about 136 hours.

>also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
>upgrade?
>

You use a program called RTVPatch (http://rtvpatch.sourceforge.net/).
BTW, I just entered that in Google and this was the first thing found.

>thanks
>
>TB
>
>> Last time I upgraded (and I'm about to do it again) I used a Western
>> Digital drive model number WD1200B. This is a 120MB drive.
>>
>> >"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
>> >> > shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
>> >> > Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
>> >> >
>> >> Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
>> >> had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
>> >> before I upgrade the drive.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Mark Lloyd
>> has a Replay 5xxx
>> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>
>> "It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
>> paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
>> anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
February 14, 2005 1:46:17 AM

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:41:38 -0600, "T.B."
<balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote:

>you prolly meant 120 GB.

Right. I sometimes make that mistake because of using computers when
really large capacities were measured in MB.

> anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
>translate to?

Approximately 1 hr per GB. For a 120GB drive, it's about 123 hours.

>also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
>upgrade?
>

Look at the RTVPatch page, at http://rtvpatch.sourceforge.net/

BTW, it's the first thing the search engine (Google) found.

>thanks
>
>TB
>
>> Last time I upgraded (and I'm about to do it again) I used a Western
>> Digital drive model number WD1200B. This is a 120MB drive.
>>
>> >"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
>> >> > shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
>> >> > Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
>> >> >
>> >> Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
>> >> had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
>> >> before I upgrade the drive.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Mark Lloyd
>> has a Replay 5xxx
>> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>
>> "It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
>> paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
>> anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
February 14, 2005 2:19:23 AM

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is there any size limit to how big of a hard drive you can put into a 5080?
are there any CONS to say putting a 200GB drive into one?

TB

"T.B." <balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote in message
news:110sfqkbh6mae94@corp.supernews.com...
> what is the best drive to upgrade to?
>
> "Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >
> > >
> > > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost some
> > > shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new HD too.
> > > Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
> > >
> > Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have never
> > had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a month or so
> > before I upgrade the drive.
>
>
Anonymous
February 14, 2005 1:28:46 PM

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T.B. wrote:
> you prolly meant 120 GB. anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
> translate to?
> also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
> upgrade?

I found a site (i'm not at home just now so do not have the URL) which
not only told HOW to do the upgrade but showed pictures.

I can give you the physical description of the replacement of the HD if
you like, that is very easy 20 bolts and one cable tie 2 connectors and
you are done (Bolt count is an estimate) only hard part is putting the
cover back on the replay.

RTV patch is well documented so that should not be a problem
Anonymous
February 14, 2005 1:30:32 PM

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T.B. wrote:
> is there any size limit to how big of a hard drive you can put into a 5080?
> are there any CONS to say putting a 200GB drive into one?

Strange you should mention a 200 Gig HD, that's what I put in my 5040

The only con is this... Should it fail.. You loose more content than if
you had a 40 Gigger. The positive is it holds more content

But I can tell you how the upgrade went..... Without a hitch.
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 12:23:15 AM

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T.B. wrote:
> you prolly meant 120 GB. anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
> translate to?
> also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
> upgrade?

I'm home now... The URL is http://www.casacurtis.com/rtvupgrade/ if I
have typed it w/o error
February 15, 2005 11:28:38 PM

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"T.B." <balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote in
news:1110d4s9dclci5e@corp.supernews.com:

> is there any size limit to how big of a hard drive you can put into a
> 5080? are there any CONS to say putting a 200GB drive into one?
>
> TB


I hope not, I put a 5400RPM 250GB Maxtor into one of my 4504's over a
year ago <grin>. I hven't found a really good price on another 5400RPM
250GB yet, and the 40GB is enough for my overflow and the second 4504
(well that and DVA running on another 250GB 7200RPM 8MB cache drive
running XP help keep space available for new content).


>
> "T.B." <balfour@NOSPAMgrandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:110sfqkbh6mae94@corp.supernews.com...
>> what is the best drive to upgrade to?
>>
>> "Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:NtydnZTozOFOlJHfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I have one Replay (the other 2 are still working) that has lost
>> > > some shows, and corrupted some Replay channels. It may need a new
>> > > HD too. Looks like I didn't save anything by not upgrading it.
>> > >
>> > Those old series Maxtors w/o fdb just don't last in PVRs. I have
>> > never had a drive failure in 5K. I don't have them more than a
>> > month or so before I upgrade the drive.
>>
>>
Anonymous
February 19, 2005 4:43:40 AM

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John in Detroit wrote:
> T.B. wrote:
>
>> you prolly meant 120 GB. anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
>> translate to?
>> also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
>> upgrade?
>
>
> I'm home now... The URL is http://www.casacurtis.com/rtvupgrade/ if I
> have typed it w/o error


I'm confused. The only software used at the web page above is RTVPatch.
Other posts indicate a need to download and use a 200+ MB file. What's
the big file for? Is it used if there is not an original disk to copy?

I have a 5040 that I would like to upgrade this weekend. The method
illustrated above seems simple enough.
Anonymous
February 19, 2005 12:01:04 PM

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:43:40 GMT, mcp6453 <mcp6453@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>John in Detroit wrote:
>> T.B. wrote:
>>
>>> you prolly meant 120 GB. anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
>>> translate to?
>>> also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
>>> upgrade?
>>
>>
>> I'm home now... The URL is http://www.casacurtis.com/rtvupgrade/ if I
>> have typed it w/o error
>
>
>I'm confused. The only software used at the web page above is RTVPatch.
>Other posts indicate a need to download and use a 200+ MB file. What's
>the big file for? Is it used if there is not an original disk to copy?
>

Yes. That other file is a copy of the Replay software. You need it if
you don't have a good Replay disk to copy it from. If you're just
upgrading (have a good Replay disk), you can use that and don't need
the additional file.

Using that file would probably require you to download the current
Replay software again (about 2 hours with a POTS connection).

>I have a 5040 that I would like to upgrade this weekend. The method
>illustrated above seems simple enough.

If you need it, you should be able to download a Replay image from
http://rgb.cc/replaytv/images/replay/

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
February 19, 2005 12:02:06 PM

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:23:15 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>T.B. wrote:
>> you prolly meant 120 GB. anyway, how many hours recording wise does that
>> translate to?
>> also, anyone have a link they can post to a site explaining how to do the
>> upgrade?
>
>I'm home now... The URL is http://www.casacurtis.com/rtvupgrade/ if I
>have typed it w/o error

I always verify those links. Anyway, that one works.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
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