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August 31, 2010 3:44:28 PM

Hello, I recently built a new computer with the below specs:

i3-540@ 3.06 (19x161)
Gigabyte H55M-S2H mobo
4gb Adata Memory@1610mhz - 7-8-7-24-1t timings@1.63v
Corsair 850tx
Sapphire HD 4650
WD 640gb hdd
Windows 7 64bit

I've been reading other reviews where people are posting a wei rating of 7+ for similar systems using the same ram. My wei is only showing 5.9. That got me thinking that I may be doing something incorrectly as I'm still new to computer building and tuning. All the voltages on the board are set to auto and performance has been set to "turbo." The only value that changed when I put the board into turbo mode was the CPU clock drive. Default is 800mV and it now sits at 900mV.

Would someone please tell me if I have my computer running at the proper settings, or am I doing something wrong and that's why my wei reads 5.9.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

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a b V Motherboard
August 31, 2010 3:50:11 PM

You say 'similar' systems, what are the differences between yours and theirs?

Post all your separate ratings,
but my guess is your hard drives dragging it down most
and the gfx could be better too imo,
wei isn't a real measure of what your pc can actually do though, try 3dmark06 and furmark,
oh and if you havent already, turn aero off hehe :p 
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a b V Motherboard
August 31, 2010 4:31:21 PM

The WEI is not a good indicator of the system performance - the rating is the same as the rating for the lowest part of the system (most likely the HDD in your case and does not reflect what the other components are rated - so if your components are all 7's except for the HDD at 5.9 the rating will show as 5.9 ) as Moto mentioned try running a benchmark program like 3dMark and see what it comes out to get a better idea of how the system is running
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a c 717 V Motherboard
August 31, 2010 10:40:47 PM

^ +3 - HDD is the problem. Example, everything else can have a value of 7, but if your HDD is ~ 5.5 your score is a 5.5.
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a b V Motherboard
September 1, 2010 2:43:17 AM

Yep! If you really want a 7+ rating, get a SSD for OS/Programs.

Else, don't dwell on a "low" WEI score.
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September 8, 2010 2:09:31 AM

wow, thanks for the responses and links. ok, that's my fault for not posting all of the numbers at first. the below is what wei is showing. i know it's not a good indicator, but i can't for the life of me figure out why my ram isn't showing a higher score.

processor 6.9
memory 5.9 (4gs)
graphics 5.2 (aero)
gaming graphics 6.4
hard drive 5.9

i'm running windows 64-bit

thanks again for all of your responses. it all really helps.
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a c 717 V Motherboard
September 8, 2010 2:22:33 AM

RAM - what's the P/N {Part Number}? By "default" & w/o manual OC of your RAM you'll never get [4gb Adata Memory@1610mhz - 7-8-7-24-1t timings@1.63v]. Also, your GPU of 5.2 is the bottleneck.

Manual (rev 1.1) - http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_g...
Support for DDR3 1666 (O.C.)/1333/1066/800 MHz memory modules
2 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets

Refer beginning at page 38 to properly set your memory settings.

BTW - In general unless your MOBO supports the exact P/N "4gb Adata" do not use XMP; if it is unsupported your rig either won't post or BSOD.
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September 8, 2010 3:26:40 AM

jaquith said:
RAM - what's the P/N {Part Number}? By "default" & w/o manual OC of your RAM you'll never get [4gb Adata Memory@1610mhz - 7-8-7-24-1t timings@1.63v]. Also, your GPU of 5.2 is the bottleneck.

Manual (rev 1.1) - http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_g...
Support for DDR3 1666 (O.C.)/1333/1066/800 MHz memory modules
2 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets

Refer beginning at page 38 to properly set your memory settings.

BTW - In general unless your MOBO supports the exact P/N "4gb Adata" do not use XMP; if it is unsupported your rig either won't post or BSOD.


thanks for the tip. yeah, i double checked and my mobo supports the adata ram i'm using - p/n ax3u1600gb2g9-2g, no xmp. yeah, i manually set the timings of the memory to 1610 7-8-7-24-1t.

as for referring to the manual, are you saying i should adjust the sub-timings to what is on page 39?



>>>>> Channel A Standard Timing Control
x CAS Latency Time 7 Auto
x tRCD 7 Auto
x tRP 7 Auto
x tRAS 20 Auto
>>>>> Channel A Advanced Timing Control
x tRC 28 Auto
x tRRD 4 Auto
x tWTR 5 Auto
x tWR 10 Auto
x tWTP 21 Auto
x tWL 7 Auto
x tRFC 60 Auto
x tRTP 5 Auto
x tFAW 16 Auto
x Command Rate (CMD) 1 Auto
>>>>> Channel A Misc Timing Control
x Static tRD 1 Auto

my rig is running fine with no bsods. i just wanted to know if i have it running where is should be. so far, the adata ram has been flawless and smooth.
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a c 717 V Motherboard
September 8, 2010 3:23:52 PM

^ All of the above are incorrect {Auto} settings. Setting the CAS incorrectly can cause errors and/or throw-off your scores. Your lucky for the moment if your DDR is indeed running @ 1610 MHz.

The correct {Manual setting} timings for your CAS 9 DDR3 are: 9-9-9-24 @1.65V~1.85V.

If your BCLK is 133.33 {stock} then the {Manual setting} Memory Multiplier DRAM Freq. MHz = 12 for 1600MHz. [Round Down (DDR3 Speed / BCLK) or (1600 MHz / 133.333) = 12]. Currently, my assumption is that the DDR3 is actually running at 8 X 133.33 = 1067 MHz.

If you want to correct this then first correctly enter the Memory Multiplier = 12, and restart. Check to see if the correct CAS Latency is set to 9-9-9-24,and if it is not then set it manually for each set or use the BIOS setting that allows {"Populate all DDR modules"} manually.

The BSOD would happen if you used XMP. Manually, using correct settings will not cause cause the non-post/BSOD.
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September 15, 2010 2:23:10 AM

jaquith said:
^ All of the above are incorrect {Auto} settings. Setting the CAS incorrectly can cause errors and/or throw-off your scores. Your lucky for the moment if your DDR is indeed running @ 1610 MHz.

The correct {Manual setting} timings for your CAS 9 DDR3 are: 9-9-9-24 @1.65V~1.85V.

If your BCLK is 133.33 {stock} then the {Manual setting} Memory Multiplier DRAM Freq. MHz = 12 for 1600MHz. [Round Down (DDR3 Speed / BCLK) or (1600 MHz / 133.333) = 12]. Currently, my assumption is that the DDR3 is actually running at 8 X 133.33 = 1067 MHz.

If you want to correct this then first correctly enter the Memory Multiplier = 12, and restart. Check to see if the correct CAS Latency is set to 9-9-9-24,and if it is not then set it manually for each set or use the BIOS setting that allows {"Populate all DDR modules"} manually.

The BSOD would happen if you used XMP. Manually, using correct settings will not cause cause the non-post/BSOD.


thanks for the the help. however, my multiplier options settings are 6, 8 and 10. i've done some additional research, along with the everyone's suggestions here, and think i've figured out my system is running fine. as mentioned in earlier postings, i really can't go by wei. i just need to conduct benchmarks to see how my system actually fairs.

again, thanks for taking the time out to assist me with this matter.
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September 15, 2010 2:23:46 AM

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