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February 1, 2010 2:22:52 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week or within 2 weeks.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Interactive Media Development (Adobe Flash, particle fx, cartooning, photoshop, fireworks, etc), Programming (Java, C#, SQL, PHP), Audio/Video Editing (after FX, Premiere Pro), Digital Photography, College Coursework, Animation, > Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.

PARTS PREFERENCES: I would like to build a intel i7 that is going to be able to render 3d studio max without many hiccups and be able to handle other cpu and memory intensive tasks. I require a wireless card and a bluetooth adapter. I have not bought a soundcard since the SB Audigy 2 ZS. I need Windows 7 64 bit, which shoots my budget a bit.

CPU's im looking at:
i7 920. why would you get the 870 if this is only 10.00 more?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i7 870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5 ( i heard it was a dead socket?)

Motherboards:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (upgradability factor)

Memory:
(2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
seperate os partition, otherwise i could get 2 500GB instead?

Optical:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ( i have a ps3 so bluray isnt that necessary, but just for kicks.)
(2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Question!
Could i install Windows XP SP2 and then install the 64 bit version of the Windows 7 upgrade? then i would save a lot more money because i can get the upgrade through school for 65.00.

Coolers:
Good CPU Cooler, im nervous about the pins of the intel cpu's as ive only built amd systems thus far in my building.

Graphics:
no idea, i would like to be able to play Diablo III, and other games without much trouble. Im gaming about 4 hours/week if im lucky right now and thats the way it should be. consider doing 3d modeling stuff, hopefully having 2 displays at once.

Monitor:
Suggest, my 19 inch has a bit outdated resolution with 1440x900.

Case:
is it possible to have a midtower with plenty of room to work with and hide wiring? I think i was looking at the antec 900, but good cooling is important to me and my components not mashed together to tight :)  The last case i had was a THermaltake Armor vws8000, and although aesthetically pleasing, it took a lot of space and was very heavy to log around.

would it be possible to get a decent printer too?

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe, shouldnt need to? SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe but i should be fine with one max card rather than 2 less than max cards, and the way things rapidly change, why get 2 right away? if you have suggestions or why i should xfire ill read them below.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: im a bit stuck here, i have an older 1440x900 19 inch LG, and then i have my 32 inch Samsung HDTV which is running in 1920x1080. I have my tv hooked up to my cruddy dell laptop as a 2nd display, but this cruddy laptop isnt efficient for my tasks.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Im not being to picky but i am on a budget, it seems to be a bad time to build right now because ATI has their dx11 cards and NVidia does not, triple channel memory motherboards are quite expensive, and the i7 with a motherboard is around 500.00 right off the bat. but i really want to have my machine and get to work till 6am in the morning. :p 

I am trusting this community to find me a build solution for around $1800.00 but < than $2000.00, i know whatever i get will be heaps better than what i am using now in my laptop but i get paranoid about the future. I built an amd system a while back and right after i did, SLI came out, amd switched there sockets (754 to 939) and USB 2.0 came out =/ Upgradability is a factor, but performance and being able to multitask is huge. I dont want anything holding me back as a developer. Thanks in Advance.

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February 1, 2010 2:46:47 PM

Here's the thing with the LGA1366 socket. Right now, it's has about the same performance as the similar priced LGA1156 CPUs (i7-860 and i5-750) in various apps, but the mobo/RAM are much more expensive. The upgrade potential is also in question, as the new 6 core CPUs Intel will release will likely be $1,000. Do you have the kind of cash to build something brand new to only replace a vital part after a short time?

As far as the i5 being a dead socket, the i7-860 is on the same socket. And it's not dead, it just won't have more powerful CPUs released for it. Intel's current dead socket is the 775.

That said, with $2,000 to spend, here's what I would build for a work machine:

CPU: i7-920 $290
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
RAM: 2x Corsair XMS3 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $360
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $90
Optical: Don't waste your money on BR. Get the cheapest SATA DVD burner you can fine $25
PSU: SeaSonic 850W $110 (only if you Crossfire, which isn't necessary)
OS: You can get a student copy of Windows 7 from Microsoft for cheap
Cooler: Only necessary if you want to overclock
Graphics: HD 5850 $290
Case: HAF 922 $90

Total: $1,475. Leaves plenty of room for a good monitor and what ever else you need. You could even stick in a SSD for your OS/apps.
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February 2, 2010 3:19:52 PM

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

everything here except
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


1. Microsoft GFC-00599: $104.99 //WINDOWS 7 64 bit OEM

2. ASUS P6X58D Premium: $284.99 //
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Combo Discount: -$15.00
Combo Price: $374.98

Total:$2276.81

Heres what we got now, i cant wait to put it together ^_^
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...




http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+32%22+Class+/+108...

this is my tv i already have and want to use as a 2nd display. How is that monitor when paired up? i tried to get em with the same reccomended resolution??


Im a little bit over my budget, is the graphics card worth as much as it is? any tips on saving some more money.

I wasnt sure on which case to select, but i would like it to be roomy and good airflow. Do i have to worry about purchasing additional cables?
is more than one optical drive necessary? it used to be.
Any issues with my hardware selection and Windows 7?
is that a good wireless card?
Hows the PSU?
etc..
You mentioned getting Windows 7 really cheap, but all i can find is the upgrade. I have Windows XP SP2 OS, but that is 32 bit how would that work in switching to 64 bit?

Thanks so much for the help you guys have been awesome. I have been wanting to get this done but school and work is keeping me busy ^_^. Upgradability, Performance, Reliability, multitask performance.
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February 2, 2010 3:26:33 PM

You can save $10 bucks by getting a SeaSonic 850W PSU that will be higher quality.

You can save $15 by getting the Antec 900. Or $30 with this combo: i7-920 and CM 690 II

The GPU doesn't need to be that powerful if you're not gaming. Stepping down to the HD 5850 would save you $100 and you'd only lose 20% performance at most
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February 2, 2010 3:30:28 PM

Antec 900 a good case?

will i be able to do 2x HDMI out with either card?
does having a 32inch 1080p tv and 24 inch monitor 1080p stress the vid card?

awesome reccomendations.

cant find the Seasonic PSU thats cheaper?
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February 2, 2010 3:36:23 PM

There isn't a Seasonic PSU that's cheaper. The price went up on it recently. Here's a quality 80 Plus Bronze certified 750W PSU for a good price:

Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W $119.95

The GPU only comes with one HDMI output. You would need to use a DVI>HDMI adapter to output two HDMI signals.
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February 2, 2010 3:36:54 PM

Seasonic deal is over. Best atm would be Corsair 750tx for $99 after MIR.
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February 2, 2010 3:41:47 PM

The 900 is the same as the 902. The 902 is just an update with a black interior, easier cable management and more accessbile case fan speed controller.

Answered.

Yes, but only if you're trying to play games on both at the same time. The downgrade card is the last option. Try to find more combos and deals before you do that.

That would be because they changed the price. You weren't planning on Crossfiring later were you? If not, you can get a smaller unit. Corsair's 650W unit is also good, and it's $90 after rebate.
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February 2, 2010 11:46:56 PM

FINAL BUILD

wont let me post links?
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CPU: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail

HeatSink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Case: COOLER MASTER CM690 II Advanced Black Steel body / Plastic + Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders OEM

Memory: (2)CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX6GX3M3C1600C7 - Retail

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Retail

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD: Intel X25-V SSDSA2MP040G2R5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Retail

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail

Wireless: ASUS PCI-G31 PCI Wireless Adapter - Retail

Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support - Retail

Speakers: Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Retail

TOTAL: $1,951.86

Any last minute things i need to worry about?
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February 3, 2010 12:02:05 AM

Best answer selected by shadysquirrel.
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February 3, 2010 3:38:55 AM

The build looks good. I would still swap out the PSU for the Antec 80 Plus Bronze certified PSU I linked above, but that's not a huge deal. The Antec PSU is just more efficient, so it will run cooler and won't waste as much energy.
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February 3, 2010 5:23:46 AM

yeah i was debating.

now my friend has me debating on the GPU based on his ATI experience.

this is my first ATI card since the 9800 Radeon Pro, very good card lasted me a lot of year never had a problem.

but he's telling me Nvidia is gonna release cards that will be 2x the performance of the 5850, he's also a nvidia fan boy because they have better drivers.

so....help me out haha.
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February 3, 2010 10:14:41 AM

Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about. nVidia's new cards are due out in soon, but no one knows anything about how they will perform. And there already is a card that doubles the performance of the 5850. It's the HD 5970 and it'll cost you $650, if you can ever find it in stock.
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February 3, 2010 1:29:32 PM

Your friend shouldn't be giving advice. By far the best cards you can currently buy are all ATI cards. Nvidia's all talk right now. All they are currently doing it re-naming old cards. Fermi has been delayed for so long, who knows when it will actually be released. ATI's drivers have been fine for quite a while now. It's funny how fanboys get stuck in the past because they refuse to acknowledge that their company doesn't currently have the best hardware.

This industry is always going back and forth between Nvidia and ATI as well as Intel and AMD. That's just the way it is. You should just buy whatever performs best for your money at the time. Right now that's ATI when it comes to gaming GPU's.
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