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January 25, 2010 7:26:51 PM

i want to play dragon age origin on my computer but i get an error message about my video card.

as far as i can tell i have a Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family video card.
My computer is a bog standard HP-Pavillion with 4 GB memory and a Pentium(R) Dual-Core E5200 @ 2.50GHz processor all running on vista home premium edition (64-bit)

what i really want to know is it possible to play dargon age origins on this or will i need to upgrade my video card, if i do what would you recommend?

thank you for all your help

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a c 125 U Graphics card
January 25, 2010 7:38:21 PM

"Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset" that is your motherboard.

So my guess is that you have onboard graphics, which is not suitable for playing games.

If you could tell us your budget and what make and model PSU (powersupply) you have then we can recommend a graphics card for you.
January 25, 2010 7:57:33 PM

im willing to spend about £100 my computer plugs directly into the wall socket and there is a sign saying

ac input 100~6.0A
50/60 Hz 200~3.0A

and where the power cable plugs into the tower there is a sticker saying 230V

i hope this helps and i apologise for my lack of computer knowledge
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a c 125 U Graphics card
January 25, 2010 8:14:37 PM

You'll have to open up your PC case, and where the power cable connects to the PC, There should be a sticker on the Powersuppy with infomation like how many watts it has, and also how many amps.

This is a powersupply.

http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/images/atx-power-supply...

You see on the side of the powersupply is a sticker. I need to know that infomation.
January 25, 2010 9:07:20 PM

this is all the info on the psu sticker, i hope it helps

DC OUTPUT 300W

INPUT 100-127V~/8A 50-60Hz
200-240V/4A 50-60Hz

OUTPUT +5Vdc/25A MAX +12Vdc/19A MAX
+3.3Vdc/18A MAX -12Vdc/0.8A MAX
+5Vsb dc/2A MAX

COMBINED POWER ON +5 AND +3.3V RAILS NOT EXCEED 175W MAX
COMBINED POWER ON +12 AND +5V RAILS NOT EXCEED 268W MAX
CONTINUOUS TOTAL DC OUTPUT POWER SHALL NOT EXCEED 300W
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 12:14:52 AM

I assume that you had one of those 'generic' PSUs.

Eitherway, you may want to get a HD 4670 which wouldn't require that much from your PSU.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 1:11:08 AM

Yeah, an HD4670 will probably be ok and is a decent gaming card for low resolutions. It should allow you to play any game at medium to high setting at resolution 1280x1024 and below.
January 26, 2010 6:30:06 AM

thanks so much guys, ive been looking and i think im gonna get a Sapphire HD4670 512MB PCI E Ultimate Graphics Card
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 6:39:29 AM

Radeon 4670 HD will perform great on 1680x1050.(According to Toms Hardware)

So, If you game at 1280x1024
You will get exceptionall performance in amlmost every games, save for few like CRYSIS.

And your PSU will be fine with 4670


GooD LucK
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 6:43:02 AM

mfarrukh said:
Radeon 4670 HD will perform great on 1680x1050.(According to Toms Hardware

Tom must have recently started smoking crack then. Maybe we should have an intervention :p 
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:22:22 AM

jyjjy said:
Tom must have recently started smoking crack then. Maybe we should have an intervention :p 



They know better then you.
Don't they?
Chech your statements before you post them
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:30:01 AM

^ You really believed those statements, huh. Maybe you should browse a little bit more and see the bigger picture. HD 4670 would do if you prefer to reduce graphics details, most of the time.
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:36:45 AM

I think I believe in my personall experience and proffessionals experience more than your statements
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:40:45 AM

mfarrukh said:
I think I believe in my personall experience and proffessionals experience more than your statements


TomsHardware is not the only site on the Internet which reviews computer hardware. You will notice after a few websites that is not even the most reliable. Still it has one of the best forums out there.
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:42:59 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
TomsHardware is not the only site on the Internet which reviews computer hardware. You will notice after a few websites that is not even the most reliable. Still it has one of the best forums out there.


I agree
There are tons of websites
But I prefer few
like
Toms Hardware
Anand Tech
Guru 3D
.....
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:44:43 AM

So, you've really done hardcore gaming in max settings at 1680x1050 with 4670?

Or is it just the "professionals" that did that? Honestly, who would do that?
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:47:33 AM

Who said anyhting about 'hardcore gaming'
I said it will perform good.
If the word good meant hardcore then
yes

a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:49:18 AM

mfarrukh said:
I agree
There are tons of websites
But I prefer few
like
Toms Hardware
Anand Tech
Guru 3D
.....


I agree with you when it cames to Anand and Guru3D. On Toms...well that is a bit iffy.
I like Techpowerup reviews due to the Author that makes them. They are reliable and easy to read, like this one:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5770/30.html
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:51:14 AM

Quote:
Radeon 4670 HD will perform great on 1680x1050


You've said it yourself. The only ones that would do great on that resolution would be GTX 260/4870 cards and up.
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 7:52:40 AM

mfarrukh said:
Who said anyhting about 'hardcore gaming'
I said it will perform good.
If the word good meant hardcore then
yes


There is a huge difference in perception in these terms presented here. Good performing usually means medium details at that given resolution. The 4670 should not be used for resolutions like 1680x1050 if the OP wants to experience good quality gameplay. In my opinion an upgrade has to occur when the difference in quality and FPS is noticeable and it will remain like that for at least 1 year. The 4670 (last generation) will not perform to the OPs expectations.
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 8:06:57 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
There is a huge difference in perception in these terms presented here. Good performing usually means medium details at that given resolution. The 4670 should not be used for resolutions like 1680x1050 if the OP wants to experience good quality gameplay. In my opinion an upgrade has to occur when the difference in quality and FPS is noticeable and it will remain like that for at least 1 year. The 4670 (last generation) will not perform to the OPs expectations.


I am telling it because i've seen it play some games at that resolution with maximum settings.
They weren't the most demanding games but still preetty good ones
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 8:10:29 AM

mfarrukh said:
I am telling it because i've seen it play some games at that resolution with maximum settings.
They weren't the most demanding games but still preetty good ones


But that is just for case-to-case basis. A card that is great in 1680x1050 should do the trick at max settings all the time for most of the games (except Crysis, of course).
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 8:14:03 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
I agree with you when it cames to Anand and Guru3D. On Toms...well that is a bit iffy.
I like Techpowerup reviews due to the Author that makes them. They are reliable and easy to read, like this one:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5770/30.html


I consider Tech powerup, tech power e.t.c. in the second place
lol
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 8:18:07 AM

mfarrukh said:
I consider Tech powerup, tech power e.t.c. in the second place
lol


As masterjaw said, a card should be able to play most games at a given resolution to be considered a viable upgrade choice. If it can't handle most games, then its value will decrease fast due to upcoming titles which will limit the quality and playability of the given card.
Even a 9500GT will play some games at that resolution. That doesn't mean it is viable.
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 8:30:45 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
As masterjaw said, a card should be able to play most games at a given resolution to be considered a viable upgrade choice. If it can't handle most games, then its value will decrease fast due to upcoming titles which will limit the quality and playability of the given card.
Even a 9500GT will play some games at that resolution. That doesn't mean it is viable.


All right
thanks
I'll take it for the future
January 26, 2010 3:58:41 PM

Sorry, forgot to give performance info.

The 4870 will play practically any game at maximum everything at the resolutions people are talking about here.

I know, because I have one.

It plays most of the games I have at 1920x1200 (Dirt 2, GTA 4 etc.) with high to very high settings.

a c 125 U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 4:30:41 PM

Don't buy a budget PSU ^^ FFS

All your components rely on your PSU, so If the PSU fails its likely to take other components with it too.
January 26, 2010 4:47:27 PM

A PSU made in modern times is very unlikely to fail.

It's a simple electrical component.

People get way to paranoid about power supplies.
Unless you're actually using the maximum rated power, (which isn't going to happen in this case) then it will last practically forever.

A cheap 600w is a lot better than a cheap 300w (which is what this person has).

I've been running my i7 and 4870 both overclocked on a budget 750W for ages and it's just fine.

What do you think the fundamental difference is inside the cheap and expensive supplies which makes one likely to fail?
a c 125 U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 4:57:52 PM

Personally I wouldnt trust £1000 worth of hardware with a cheap £40 PSU.

Theres a reason why there so cheap, they use cheap/less reliable components to build the PSU's + many cheap/generic PSU's over-rate what they are actually capable of. Or advertise their peak output, rather than their continuous power output.

I would never recommend buying a generic PSU.
a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2010 5:02:10 PM

bogcotton said:
A PSU made in modern times is very unlikely to fail.

It's a simple electrical component.

People get way to paranoid about power supplies.
Unless you're actually using the maximum rated power, (which isn't going to happen in this case) then it will last practically forever.

A cheap 600w is a lot better than a cheap 300w (which is what this person has).

I've been running my i7 and 4870 both overclocked on a budget 750W for ages and it's just fine.

What do you think the fundamental difference is inside the cheap and expensive supplies which makes one likely to fail?


The quality of the capacitors. Read some JohnnyGuru and you will find out the difference.
January 26, 2010 5:41:35 PM

I've read the article you're talking about.

Of course I'm not recommending one of those type of PSU.
When I say 'budget' I mean priced slightly below brand named products, but not significantly lower quality.

The one I have linked has dual 12V rails and overvolt protection.

Its got energystar approval aswell.
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 12:37:07 AM

^ Stickers and words written at the case of the PSU doesn't necessarily show its quality. Sometimes, its just pure PR. If so then all PSUs in the market are of top quality then.

You could only verify the specs by testing and usually, those "brand named products" are already tested to meet the specs.
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