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Crysis and Windows 7 Ultimate

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January 25, 2010 10:39:14 PM

Hi,

I recently installed Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate (with al recent updates).
And I installed Crysis (up to 1.2 patch).

And now I only have 20 fps, instead of the 50+ on XP 32 bit.

My rig:
Asus P6T Deluxe V2
6 GB Crucial
Asus 285 GTX

I'm kinda disappointed (again) in EA, no patches for Windows 7 etc.
And I see a lot of problems with the Crysis <-> Windows 7 combi.

Any ideas (besides crippling the game to DX9)?

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January 25, 2010 11:09:43 PM

You shouldnt have to run in DX9 mode - I run Win7 64bit and Crysis is fine.

Are you running the 64bit version of Crysis now? Are the drivers 64bit?
Is everything recognized in device manager?
Did you install the driver package from NVidia?

Did you move anything during the OS install?

Im thinking this is something really obvious....
a b Î Nvidia
January 25, 2010 11:24:43 PM

Yep, be sure to use the .exe in the bin64 folder, not 32. Crysis runs fine on my computer. Can you try out any other games/benchmarks (just to confirm everything else is ok).
January 26, 2010 6:58:24 AM

Hi,

My desktop shortcut properties say it's running the crysis.exe in the bin64 folder, so no problem there.
Game is is installed in D:\Games (x86)\Crytek\Crysis, so not on C: partition.

For the 285 I'm running the nv19107_win7vista64 driver, as provided by Asus.
That would be version 191.07.

Same problems on 195.62 64-bit provided by the nvidia website.

I'm puzzled. Select DX9 and Crysis runs fine, select DX10 and fps is back to 20.

Other game I play is Battlefield 2, runs like a charm (have to select compatability mode XP SP 3).

I also downloaded Dirt 2 demo, runs like a charm (seems 32 bit, however).

Only thing that's strange is that the Physx seems to be 32-bit, but I'm not sure if Crysis is using it.

Rest of the drivers are all up to date, bios 7.04, so no problem there.
No problems with hardware, memory and disk are ok.

I use this machine (i920) at stock settings, more then enough to play any current game.
January 26, 2010 8:08:00 AM

At what resolution and settings do you run Crysis, when you go from DX9 to DX10 do you up the settings to take advantage of DX10 as well?
January 26, 2010 8:34:51 AM

lothdk:
everything at max, as that is what my rig should be able to pull off.

EXT64:
I ran the 1-time only 3dmark vantage benchmark, 14663 3DMarks
.
CPU Score 44182

Graphics Score 11992

Pretty decent for a rig at stock settings, isnt it?

As a sidenote, my Explorer (desktop) keeps crashing once-in-a-while, quite annoying.
It's strange, the system is really still pretty clean, I installed it last week.

Why do I always have that 70% feeling with Microsoft products, LOL?

I dont use Windows for anything else then gaming.
My primary system is Ubuntu.

On XP I had to update DX9 once in a while, isn't that necessary anymore with Windows 7?
January 26, 2010 9:47:22 AM

letstrynl said:
lothdk:
everything at max, as that is what my rig should be able to pull off.


Well, if that means you go from High setting using DX9 to Very High setting using DX10 that could explain the difference, do you have antialiasing enabled?

Take a look at this benchmark of Crysis with your card

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-285,2139-4.html


letstrynl said:
On XP I had to update DX9 once in a while, isn't that necessary anymore with Windows 7?


Yes, you should still update to newest DX9

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04ac064b-00d1-474e-b7b1-442d8712d553
January 26, 2010 11:41:13 AM

The frame rates your getting are correct for the hardware you have.
January 26, 2010 1:28:45 PM

Update
--------

I just started Crysis in DX10 mode.
I took the same scene, exact same position, same point of view.

Stock settings, so 2.6 GHz x 4 processors, no HT.

Antialiasing off, no vsync.

At 1920x1200 very high: 15.8 fps
At 1920x1200 high: 17.7 fps

Lowered the resolution.

At 1400x900 very high: 15 fps
At 1400x900 high: 17.7 fps

BUMP, it can't be that bad.
January 26, 2010 2:00:02 PM

... and 1200x720 at low settings: 30 fps

measured by asus gamerosd
January 26, 2010 2:05:30 PM

It's not win7. I get much better FPS on my w7u64 with crysis at 1920x1080 and the same settings, and my hardware doesn't compare. Your gaming rig is being crippled somewhere. Time to start running the diagnostics like Memtest etc and try to eliminate possible hardware issues.
January 26, 2010 2:24:29 PM

I'll try resetting my BIOS.
Not much else to do anymore, I'm done with this.
DX9 mode crashes to desktop now, after loading a scene.

My hardware is all ok (memtest/smart settings of harddisk etc.).

I'll let you guys know if it helped.
January 26, 2010 2:30:29 PM

Crysis runs fine on 7 for my system. Did you upgrade to 7 or did you do a clean install?
a b Î Nvidia
January 26, 2010 2:34:41 PM

Crysis doesn't use PhysX, it uses a custom made physics engine.
January 26, 2010 3:03:20 PM

Ok, DX9 is working again.

Nvidia profile setting: "Let he application decide"

Windows 7 compatability mode: "Vista SP2"

I created new profiles for each of the DX9 and DX10 settings.

Results:
DX9 low: 135 fps
DX9 high: 63 fps

DX10 low: 26 fps
DX10 high: 15 fps

I still feel something is not as it should be.

As a sidenote (or maybe very important), when I start in DX10 mode, in the intro, the colors are off and I get a full ASCII chart. Game itself is ok.

Could it be ASUS GameOSD that is trashing things up?
January 26, 2010 3:05:54 PM

... at 1920x1200

Also to the guys who are administering this forum: I can't edit/save my own messages.
a c 84 Î Nvidia
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 26, 2010 3:18:43 PM

I agree with you, that those FPS's aren't correct for your system. As was asked before. Did you do a clean install of Win 7, or did you do an upgrade?
January 26, 2010 3:25:27 PM

It was a fresh install with Windows 7 Ultimate Update DVD.
January 26, 2010 3:27:10 PM

The mentioned results are with AA disabled.
January 26, 2010 3:29:02 PM

The 285GTX IS a DX10 card, isn't it?
It was advertised as such.
a c 84 Î Nvidia
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 26, 2010 3:30:08 PM

As a reference. I'm also on a i7 920 with a P6T motherboard and 5870s in CF. With just one 5870 on it's own, I was seeing 40-60 FPS at High settings and x4 AA (I felt Very high was not playable at that time). With two 5870's in CF, I can run Very High (Ultra with a mod) and x4 AA with 40-60 FPS.

The 285 should perform close, but a tad lower than my system with a single 5870.

Yes, the 285 is a DX 10 card.
January 26, 2010 3:37:38 PM

bystander: "I was seeing 40-60 FPS at High settings"

Are you sure this was in DX10 mode?
January 26, 2010 4:51:09 PM

Issue is resolved.

It was ASUS GamerOSD.
I removed it, and DX10 performance is now 50-60 fps at High with AA=off.
Measured by setting r_DisplayInfo=1 at the Crysis console.

I guess my rig could do a bit better than some of you were thinking ;-)

Thanks guys.
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 26, 2010 5:39:13 PM

letstrynl said:
Issue is resolved.

It was ASUS GamerOSD.
I removed it, and DX10 performance is now 50-60 fps at High with AA=off.
Measured by setting r_DisplayInfo=1 at the Crysis console.

I guess my rig could do a bit better than some of you were thinking ;-)

Thanks guys.


Have you tried upping the CPU clock? You will get more frames at 3.2Ghz and above ;) 
January 26, 2010 5:53:29 PM

OvrClkr: No, I haven't.

Most of the time this is my working machine, so power saving is ok then.
It is quite a good one at that by the wway, 150 W/h normally, even better then my old AMD 3800 ;-)

> 2.6 GHz would be nice, but I still have the stock Intel CPU cooler installed.
As I have the D0 stepping, overclocking should be relatively safe though.
I saw some awesome overclocks with this processor.

So, for now no overclocking, maybe when I get a new CPU cooler.

BTW. Crysis DX10 Extra high runs at 30-35 fps on this machine.
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 26, 2010 5:57:41 PM

Well you can raise the clock to at least 3Ghz with minimal effort (stock cooling), that will give you a small boost in performance but I warn you, it can get addicting so yes once you get an aftermarket cooler let us know so we can help you out =)
January 26, 2010 6:38:35 PM

Hey thanks ;-)
a b Î Nvidia
January 26, 2010 6:49:06 PM

Yep, I haven't seen that one before, but that Asus software is really buggy and invasive. I had all sorts of weird issues with my Asus 4850 until I got rid of it (the software, not the card). Glad to hear they have since made it even worse.
January 27, 2010 6:15:51 AM

Yes, and to make it even worse this software is supposed to show the performance ;-)

On XP I also had some problems with this software and disabled it there too.

I guess the Asus programmers need some other hooks into the DX10 library.
However I'm not sure if they ever found the right ones in DX9 either, LOL ;-)
January 27, 2010 8:23:28 AM

I cant even run Crysis anymore! Ive upgraded so many times since I purchased it that when I installed Windows 7 that stupid Security Rom wouldnt let me run the game! Im so p**sed off about im starting to become a fan of STEAM!!!!!
January 27, 2010 1:32:50 PM

Hey since this thread is already going this is the issue that i have :

So I have installed W7 64Bit Ultimate as of recent, I have had SLI for some time now - 2xGTX260's (tho with my prev. OS - Win XP Pro I have never tried running Crysis in SLI).

All the games work perfect with SLI except Crysis (decided to try it for its DX10 beauty). What I get is basically strange periodic freezing in the main menu - music keeps playing, but mouse would stop moving for about 5 - 10 sec and then would resume, and this happens every 10 seconds or so - so its unmanageable. I am pretty certain this is the driver issue (196.21), at least i think it is. When i force it to run with a single card - i have no issues.

My Specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
4GB RAM
2x260GTXOC
W7Ultimate64bit
680i SLI mobo...
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 27, 2010 2:04:35 PM

marney_5 said:
I cant even run Crysis anymore! Ive upgraded so many times since I purchased it that when I installed Windows 7 that stupid Security Rom wouldnt let me run the game! Im so p**sed off about im starting to become a fan of STEAM!!!!!


I have Windows 7 64 with tons of games from Steam and to this date I have not had one issue. What does secure-rom do that prevents you from installing a game?
January 27, 2010 2:19:19 PM

OvrClkr said:
I have Windows 7 64 with tons of games from Steam and to this date I have not had one issue. What does secure-rom do that prevents you from installing a game?



Secure Rom keeps telling me that the game can only be installed on so many machines and to get a new key code I must contact EA for a new one to play!

Thats why im starting to become a fan of Steam because you have your own account with your games so no matter how many times I upgrade I can still install my games. The main reason I wasnt a fan of Steam at first was because I had problems with installing MW2 and Fear 2.
January 27, 2010 2:23:25 PM

I had a seriously frustrating time getting more installs authorized on my wife's Sims3, but that was because I tried using the phone to accomplish the task. People have reported very easy, stressfree results by contacting EA CS through email. Just explain that you had many hardware changes and need more installs, and they will probably fulfill your needs.

When I finally did talk to an EA CSR, she reminded me that if I have to format my drive, or reinstall the OS, to properly uninstall the EA title first, as proper uninstallation will give you back the install credit used when installing in the first place.
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 27, 2010 2:47:00 PM

So is Crysis to blame for the secure-rom issue?
January 27, 2010 3:21:51 PM

Sony = Rootkit
EA = SecureRom

Am i missing something, or is there a connection between these two I should know about?
January 27, 2010 3:24:56 PM

OvrClkr said:
So is Crysis to blame for the secure-rom issue?



No SecureRom are totally to blame! Just cant stand the idea of going through all this trouble for a game that ive already paid for!
a b Ĉ ASUS
January 27, 2010 3:29:39 PM

So if sony is to blame, what does that have to do with Crysis?
January 27, 2010 3:31:22 PM

Indeed, I wasn't aware of the original developer of SecuRom, and like others, normally associate it with EA.

BTW, that link has my WOT plugin freaking out, ss.
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