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What will cingular, or fot that matter, any gsm carrier going to have to
combat EV-DO that sprint and verizon are going to be putting out?


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  1. Archived from groups: alt.cellular.cingular (More info?)

    Capn wrote:

    > What will cingular, or fot that matter, any gsm carrier going to have to
    > combat EV-DO that sprint and verizon are going to be putting out?
    >
    >
    > Capt.
    >
    >


    I understand Cingular is working on some sort of UMTS implementation.

    --
    jer
    email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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    oh, very cool. any timeline on when they plan on implementing it? I wonder
    if the speeds will be comparable and which techies will say is the better of
    the systems out there.

    Capt.

    "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
    news:4236fef6$0$88040$16895aa@news.airnews.net...
    > Capn wrote:
    >
    >> What will cingular, or fot that matter, any gsm carrier going to have to
    >> combat EV-DO that sprint and verizon are going to be putting out?
    >>
    >>
    >> Capt.
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    > I understand Cingular is working on some sort of UMTS implementation.
    >
    > --
    > jer
    > email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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    Capn wrote:

    > oh, very cool. any timeline on when they plan on implementing it? I wonder
    > if the speeds will be comparable and which techies will say is the better of
    > the systems out there.
    >
    > Capt.
    >

    Seems I recall something about a 3Q05 timeframe. As to how Cingular's
    bling compares to anybody elses's bling is beyond my pay scale. I
    imagine some of the equipment currently in the stores will require some
    sort of upgrade to provide full compatibility with their new network. I
    wish I had some protocol details about Cingular Futureworld, but I am
    clueless.


    --
    jer
    email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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    On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:27:58 -0600, Jer wrote:

    > Capn wrote:
    >
    >> What will cingular, or fot that matter, any gsm carrier going to have to
    >> combat EV-DO that sprint and verizon are going to be putting out?
    >>
    >>
    >> Capt.
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    > I understand Cingular is working on some sort of UMTS implementation.

    I just started using it here near Seattle but the Novatel Merlin U520 is
    pricey so I gulped and went for it. The usual eighty dollars
    unlimitedplan applies here like most carriers. What I have seen is steady
    throughput at around 350kbs and latency as low as 200ms. Yes, STEADY! Not
    bursty! To provide the umts-hsdpa, they only need to apply a software
    upgrade to
    the lucent equipment to enable the faster speeds. The current phones and
    the merlin ard are limited to 384kbs but later this year there will be
    PCMCIA cards that use the newer Qualcomm chip that is just coming out of
    fab. The hsdpa upgrade will lower the latency down to around 100ms. I
    will tell you that my experiences so far with this show no dormant state,
    no image compression and yes, it is even easier to use with Linux than my
    old SprintPCS card was since it doesn't need any special port settings
    or ppp options. I copied the init string (ATE0V1&D2&C1S0=0+IFC=2,2) from
    my windows log as well as the rather strange phone number(*99***1#), and
    have it running on my IPCop firewall. It totally ignores the 115k serial
    port setting and connects at 384k anyway. The windows software also set
    the port at 115k and yet connects at 384k. This is unusual that the 384k
    is useable and not just a port speed like CDMA devices do. This feels
    underhyped compared to my CDMA experiences. My IPCop dialer requires that
    you put a user and password in it so I put
    a bogus one and it authenticates by the sim card so everyone is happy. I
    DO like the Sim card method much better! No wonder people like it!
    This is probably way more than you asked for but I hadn't said anything
    on these ng's yet so I figured I'd start here in this thread.

    Dave
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    On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:27:58 -0600, Jer wrote:

    > Capn wrote:
    >
    >> What will cingular, or fot that matter, any gsm carrier going to have
    >> to combat EV-DO that sprint and verizon are going to be putting out?
    >>
    >>
    >> Capt.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    > I understand Cingular is working on some sort of UMTS implementation.

    I just started using it here near Seattle but the Novatel Merlin U520 is
    pricey so I gulped and went for it. The usual eighty dollars unlimited
    plan applies here like most carriers. What I have seen is steady
    throughput at around 350kbs and latency as low as 200ms. Yes, STEADY! Not
    bursty! To provide the umts-hsdpa, they only need to apply a software
    upgrade to the lucent equipment to enable the faster speeds. The current
    phones and the merlin card are limited to 384kbs but later this year there
    will be PCMCIA cards that use the newer Qualcomm chip that is just coming
    out of fab. The hsdpa upgrade will lower the latency down to around 100ms. I
    will tell you that my experiences so far with this show no dormant state,
    no image compression and yes, it is even easier to use with Linux than my
    old SprintPCS card was since it doesn't need any special port settings or
    ppp options. I copied the init string (ATE0V1&D2&C1S0=0+IFC=2,2) from my
    windows log as well as the rather strange phone number(*99***1#), and
    have it running on my IPCop firewall. It totally ignores the 115k serial
    port setting and connects at 384k anyway. The windows software also set
    the port at 115k and yet connects at 384k. This is unusual that the 384k
    is useable and not just a port speed like CDMA devices do. This feels
    underhyped compared to my CDMA experiences. My IPCop dialer requires that
    you put a user and password in it so I put a bogus one and it authenticates
    by the sim card so everyone is happy. I DO like the Sim card method much
    better! No wonder people like it!
    This is probably way more than you asked for but I hadn't said anything on
    these ng's yet so I figured I'd start here in this thread.

    Dave
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    Capn wrote:

    > oh, very cool. any timeline on when they plan on implementing it? I wonder
    > if the speeds will be comparable and which techies will say is the better
    > of the systems out there.
    >
    > Capt.
    >
    > "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
    > news:4236fef6$0$88040$16895aa@news.airnews.net...
    >> Capn wrote:
    >>
    >>> What will cingular, or fot that matter, any gsm carrier going to have to
    >>> combat EV-DO that sprint and verizon are going to be putting out?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Capt.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >> I understand Cingular is working on some sort of UMTS implementation.
    >>
    >> --
    >> jer
    >> email reply - I am not a 'ten'

    I am very happy with UMTS performance and when they upgrade to UMTS-HSDPA
    which only requires a software upgrade to the Lucent equipment, we'll be in
    the mbs and it has the potential to get 14mbs. What I noticed is that the
    384kbs is actually attainable and not some port speed that is NOT
    attainable. I have steady file downloads at around 350, not bursty like
    other offerings.
    --
    Dave
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    > I am very happy with UMTS performance and when they upgrade to UMTS-HSDPA
    > which only requires a software upgrade to the Lucent equipment, we'll be in
    > the mbs and it has the potential to get 14mbs. What I noticed is that the
    > 384kbs is actually attainable and not some port speed that is NOT
    > attainable. I have steady file downloads at around 350, not bursty like
    > other offerings.

    I'm glad to hear it's just not hype. It sounds like the implementation
    will blow CDMA away. Qualcomm has decided to put more effort into HSDPA
    than into the successor of EV-DO (EV-DV) because the carriers aren't
    demanding EV-DV. Maybe that's where the future lies.

    TH
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