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January 27, 2010 6:55:05 PM

Hey guys I built my first computer back in october of 2009. I have an i7 clocked at 3.4 and a single 5870. I also play on a dell 30 inch 2560x1600. My mother board is the EVGA 3 way sli. My psu is a corsair 850. (i realize i might have to upgrade to 1000)

I know my single 5870 is not quite good enough to get the job done at 2560x1600. I looked at some benchmarks for crossfire 5870's and they seems to average around 30 fps. I really would like to get more than 30 fps. I am looking for a better graphics card set up to get a nice solid FPS (maybe 40's-50's) with crysis at very high 2560x1600..... what do you guys suggest?

Should I go for a tri fire 5870? The only crysis benchmark I could find using three 5870's @ 2560x1600 only had it at 35fps. Which was 5 more fps from two 5870's. I am sorry, but if I am going to spend 400 dollars on a 3rd 5870 I need to get more than 5 fps lol.

Or should I say screw it and just get two 5970's? Only thing with that is I would be wasting my single 5870 that I already have :o (

What I wanna know is what kinda fps could I expect to get with crysis @ very high with a 2560x1600 reso with something like a tri 5870 or crossfire 5970 set up? I dont know why, but its like pulling teeth trying to find benchmarks with this kind of set up using 2560x1600. I am hoping you guys can help. Thanks
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 7:15:11 PM

I don't think any current card or config can run Crysis that high. As you see, the benefits of going from 2 to 3 cards is much less than from 1 to 2, and going from 3 to 4 will be even less. If dual 5870's can't do it, then you will probably just have to hope the new NVidia card coming out in 3-6 months is significantly faster. Crysis is still a very demanding game.
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 7:18:27 PM

You might just have to try for high settings on Crysis, which still looks great.
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January 27, 2010 7:18:48 PM

Quote:
or you can go for a HD 5970 and sell your HD 5870..


..... if 3 Crossfired 5870's get 35fps, a 5970 will get like 15....

2 Crossfired 5970s will net you probably about the same as three 5870's.

Only way to get higher would be to get 4 5870's and 4-way Crossfire them. That would be expensive though :p 
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 7:26:07 PM

Or do two watercooled 5970's and OC like crazy.
January 27, 2010 7:29:08 PM

EXT64 said:
Or do two watercooled 5970's and OC like crazy.


As I said, if you're gonna go that far, screw it, get four 5870's, crossfire them, OC to hell and back, and get some peltier liquid cooling going on those biatches.

Then you might get 45-50fps at that res..... but you'll also use enough power for a small town and be able to melt steel by setting it on your case.....
January 27, 2010 7:29:41 PM

OK I found this video on you tube. It was suppose to be using all four of his cards, but he says it was only using three.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI-f9P8nKKs



He says I should get around 60 fps @ 2560x1600 with highest settings. So it looks like I will be going with the three 5870's. Now I have to decide if I should get a better PSU. I have a corsair 850 and I am not too sure if that would be enough to power three 5870's. Orrrr should I just add a 5970 which would be similar to have three 5870's and that should stay under 850w
January 27, 2010 7:33:22 PM

adding a 5970 wouldn't be the same as three 5870s, it wouldn't be a lot slower... but it would be slower nonetheless...
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 7:35:48 PM

to the op: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJyV8zwDqI

check this video out, it may give you some hope. Guy got 66fps avg 1920x1200 4xAA albeit, with 4 5870's.

If you wait a bit for the 2GB 5870's to finally get here, grab 3 of them and go have a blast, the extra V ram will help alot for your res.

With that being said, Fermi will probably be close to launch by then, and Nvidia does better in Crysis so maybe wait for two Fermis.
January 27, 2010 7:46:28 PM

EXT64 said:
I don't think any current card or config can run Crysis that high. As you see, the benefits of going from 2 to 3 cards is much less than from 1 to 2, and going from 3 to 4 will be even less. If dual 5870's can't do it, then you will probably just have to hope the new NVidia card coming out in 3-6 months is significantly faster. Crysis is still a very demanding game.



Hmmm maybe I should just wait for Nvidia's cards. How do you know these new furry cards will come out in 3-6 months. I dont wanna wait long lol
January 27, 2010 7:51:00 PM

BTW I called is furry on purpose muhahah
January 27, 2010 7:55:08 PM

if i am not frong thay will be out in march. Am i wrong?
a c 355 U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 7:55:09 PM

I would put Crysis on the shelf and let collect dust for the next 3 or 4 years then SLI or XFire the two most powerful GPUs in 2013/2014.
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 8:17:56 PM

Yeah, i guess you are right, it is only 2-5 months now (keep forgetting January is almost over.
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 8:40:27 PM

jerohmeee said:
OK I found this video on you tube. It was suppose to be using all four of his cards, but he says it was only using three.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI-f9P8nKKs



He says I should get around 60 fps @ 2560x1600 with highest settings. So it looks like I will be going with the three 5870's. Now I have to decide if I should get a better PSU. I have a corsair 850 and I am not too sure if that would be enough to power three 5870's. Orrrr should I just add a 5970 which would be similar to have three 5870's and that should stay under 850w


... and all this while hundreds of thousands of people are starving in Haiti. It's no wonder half the world hates us.
January 27, 2010 9:23:41 PM

capt_taco said:
... and all this while hundreds of thousands of people are starving in Haiti. It's no wonder half the world hates us.



Our society on earth as a whole does not work like that. I work hard for my money. I earned it.
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 9:31:54 PM

Perhaps I should have added a "LOL" to indicate that I wasn't exactly serious.

But by any standard ... wow, what a display of excess.
January 27, 2010 9:47:23 PM

Anyway what is up with this furry from Nvidia? Is this suppose to blow the doors off ATI?
a b U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 9:55:31 PM

jerohmeee said:
Anyway what is up with this furry from Nvidia? Is this suppose to blow the doors off ATI?


It's Nvidia's DX11 card that's basically going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of a 5870 or a 5970, nobody knows for sure yet.

Then after it comes out, ATI will come out with something new and be in the lead for a couple months, then Nvidia will come out with something better and be in the lead for a couple months, and so on. I don't get the impression that either brand is going to blow away the other, although they'll both be pretty amazing cards.

Although one thing I will bet money on is that the Fermi is going to be expensive as hell for the first few months.
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 27, 2010 11:07:03 PM

Annisman said:
to the op: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJyV8zwDqI

check this video out, it may give you some hope. Guy got 66fps avg 1920x1200 4xAA albeit, with 4 5870's.

If you wait a bit for the 2GB 5870's to finally get here, grab 3 of them and go have a blast, the extra V ram will help alot for your res.

With that being said, Fermi will probably be close to launch by then, and Nvidia does better in Crysis so maybe wait for two Fermis.


We don't know if Crysis will favor Fermi at all. It's a totally new architecture, and anything could happen.
a b U Graphics card
January 28, 2010 4:15:10 PM

bystander said:
We don't know if Crysis will favor Fermi at all. It's a totally new architecture, and anything could happen.


While you are right, anything could happen, you are not using your grey matter.

Compared to ATI the Nvidia 8800 series dominated Crysis at launch, continued to improve with the 9*** series, and expanded it's dominance with the GTX 260/280 which are the only cards that when paired together can tackle crysis at highest settings.

Why, after 2 architechtures, and 1 refresh, of Nvidia series cards that dominate Crysis should anybody think this won't be the case for Fermi ?

At the very least compared to what ATI has to offer.


I have 2x 5870's in crossfire and max settings are still out of reach for me, however If I had 2X GTX 285's I could run it with ease.
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 28, 2010 11:51:43 PM

Just because you flip a coin and it lands on heads twice in a row, doesn't mean it will land on heads a 3rd time. And while they had changed their architecture before, Fermi is radically different than previous architectures. It's really designed for GPGPU computing, but modified to be able to run gaming 3D as well.

I'm not saying it won't perform well, but by the charts I've seen, I don't quite see the Nvidia dominance you are talking about at the present moment.
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 28, 2010 11:54:35 PM

Annisman said:

I have 2x 5870's in crossfire and max settings are still out of reach for me, however If I had 2X GTX 285's I could run it with ease.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474...

That says otherwise. What's your resolution? I have 2x 5870's and I max out Crysis (I'm using an ultra setting atm from a mod) with a resolution of 1920x1200.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 2:14:36 AM

Do you have any trouble with the fight on the Carrier flight deck? For whatever reason, even though the rest of the levels run flawlessly, that one runs poorly and has crashed three or four times for me.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 2:18:48 AM

RealityRush said:
..... if 3 Crossfired 5870's get 35fps, a 5970 will get like 15....

2 Crossfired 5970s will net you probably about the same as three 5870's.

Only way to get higher would be to get 4 5870's and 4-way Crossfire them. That would be expensive though :p 


Shut up and do some fking research, the 5970 has 2 Cypress XT's, NOT Cypress PRO's. Yes, OMG, 1600x2. Get the LCS Edition that was reviewed a while back & OC 2 of them.
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 3:03:04 AM

EXT64 said:
Do you have any trouble with the fight on the Carrier flight deck? For whatever reason, even though the rest of the levels run flawlessly, that one runs poorly and has crashed three or four times for me.


A matter of fact, I did have some trouble. It appeared to be a memory leak, as everything would run smooth, and then slowly slowed down and crashed a couple on the flight deck only.

I thought it was due to having aero on, or the Ultra mod I had installed.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 3:09:20 AM

I had that problem too, I couldn't even finish the level;
Reinstall your drivers
Install Vista SP1
Get the latest Crysis patch
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 3:11:38 AM

That is exactly what I experienced. I have heard that turning down to medium may help. I have the 9.12 hotfix drivers, Win7 (though I could try turning off Aero), and the latest Crysis patch (which does fix some memory leaks, but I guess not for me).
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 3:18:15 AM

Installing SP1 was what worked for me.
Anyways, OP's first post says he has a EVGA 3-way SLI mobo, which I doubt can CF, so OP's limited to internal CF cards (4870X2, 5970, etc)
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 3:19:15 AM

EXT64 said:
That is exactly what I experienced. I have heard that turning down to medium may help. I have the 9.12 hotfix drivers, Win7 (though I could try turning off Aero), and the latest Crysis patch (which does fix some memory leaks, but I guess not for me).


I know Aero helped earlier in the game. There was a couple times that the game slowed down on me and win 7 gave me a warning that I was running out of memory. I turned off Aero and the problem went away. I forgot to turn off aero before the last session I was going through the carrier, I should go back to a saved game and see if I have problems while Aero is off.
January 29, 2010 11:43:58 AM

sabot00 said:
Shut up and do some fking research, the 5970 has 2 Cypress XT's, NOT Cypress PRO's. Yes, OMG, 1600x2. Get the LCS Edition that was reviewed a while back & OC 2 of them.


The 5970 also has two GPUs using one PCI-E bus whereas two 5870's get their own dedicated bus. Throw insults more please, they make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 11:52:25 AM

RealityRush said:
The 5970 also has two GPUs using one PCI-E bus whereas two 5870's get their own dedicated bus. Throw insults more please, they make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.


With an overclock on the core the 5970 will perform like 2 5870. Even though the 5870 have their own dedicated buses that doesn't mean they are better, because the 5970 is not limited by it's single bus, only by the core frequencies.
January 29, 2010 12:06:35 PM

hallowed_dragon said:
With an overclock on the core the 5970 will perform like 2 5870. Even though the 5870 have their own dedicated buses that doesn't mean they are better, because the 5970 is not limited by it's single bus, only by the core frequencies.


Yeah, but if you're bus limited, doesn't that bottleneck bandwidth...... and OCing it doesn't count, because you can just OC a 5870 and it will beat it again. The fact is, even if it is a 2-4fps difference, two OC'd 5870's will beat a single OC'd 5970. Not to mention cooling individual 5870's would be easier so you can probably overvolt them more than the 5970's.

I'll admit my specialty is more electrical than electronics, but it seems to stand to logic that 2 individual 5870s would be faster than one 5970...
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 12:09:57 PM

RealityRush said:
Yeah, but if you're bus limited, doesn't that bottleneck bandwidth...... and OCing it doesn't count, because you can just OC a 5870 and it will beat it again. The fact is, even if it is a 2-4fps difference, two OC'd 5870's will beat a single OC'd 5970. Not to mention cooling individual 5870's would be easier so you can probably overvolt them more than the 5970's.

I'll admit my specialty is more electrical than electronics, but it seems to stand to logic that 2 individual 5870s would be faster than one 5970...


Seeing that the specifications are the same and only the GPU speed differs there is no other difference. The bandwidth still doesn't saturate the PCIex 2.0 so that is not an issue here. And related to the cooling. Some people might disagree here. Ask jay2tall about X-fire setups and cooling 2 cards. Always the top card will have higher temps than the bottom one which might generate in not so well ventilated cases problems.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 2:23:24 PM

bystander said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474...

That says otherwise. What's your resolution? I have 2x 5870's and I max out Crysis (I'm using an ultra setting atm from a mod) with a resolution of 1920x1200.


My res is the same as yours,

what I mean to say is that I cannot run it comfortably yet at max settings, which is true, I find it dipping down too often, again personal preference here. My avg fps is good, but as I am sure you know max fps in Crysis is never high, the fps usually fluxuates between avg and minimum.

If Fermi doesn't do better in Crysis than a similarly priced Radeon card I will send you both of my 5870's and give you 500$ paypal, I am that confident that Crysis will continue to do better on NVidia cards. Don't forget Crysis is a TWIMTBP game, and it is still the holy grail of PC graphics, you think the green team would let a card come out that did poorly in their cash-cow of a game ? I think not..
a c 216 U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 2:34:08 PM

Did you look at that benchmark? It does show fairly average comparison difference of the ATI and Nvidia cards. The cards that normal beat the next is the same in that benchmark and by about the same as normal.

You could possibly have something poorly configured in your system. Generally having over 45 fps at all times is considered quite comfortable. In my system, with 2x 5870's and an i7 920 at 3.5 ghz (what I've seen in benchmarks show that most games will be GPU at this speed still), the FPS almost never drop below 45 with a couple rare exceptions that are mostly non fighting spots.

If you feel the need for over 60 FPS, then ya, it won't, but neither will the 285's, as that benchmark shows the 2x 5870's handily out perform the 285's.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 4:37:17 PM

Last time I played Crysis was way long ago, I played Warhead about 3 months ago, using a 2GB Texture pack and the CCC graphics enhancements, so maybe that had something to do with my moderate performance.
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a b U Graphics card
May 19, 2010 10:17:33 PM

don't be a hero kid. you'll have more luck dividing by zero
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