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February 3, 2010 10:49:02 PM

Building a new system. Small apt so system will be used for a Home Based Business, Home Theater System and Gaming PC. WoW, Dragon Age, Bioshock as well as a few others.

Budget is no more than $1800.00 including shipping costs etc.

Here is my current build (which is minus Video Card and OS which I'd like to get Win7 Ultimate 64bit) I need advice on adjustments as well as which video card to get, best bang for my buck and to fit within budget

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total for current items is 1543.91 not including shipping (not sure how much that will be yet)
I'm willing to finagle with parts as well as purchase some locally to save shipping. I have access to Fry's Best Buy, Costco, Staples etc.

Graphics card I would like something that will last quite awhile, but I can't budget for top of the line as you can see. I was thinking about a xfx 5850 but even that seems a tad out of reach considering my budget. I need an OEM OS disk as well so thats what 100.00?

anyway input would be much appreciated.....
(all the items selected have been researched out the yingyang. But since it's been 5+years since i've built anything i'm willing to listen to all of you have changeout suggestions.

Thanks

P.S. I might be able to stretch an extra $100.00 for shipping costs if absolutely necessary but 1800.00 is pretty firm budget. Anything beyond that and it means waiting a couple paychecks for extra cash. I'd like to stick with the 1800 I have set aside.
February 3, 2010 11:14:42 PM

An x58 is not really required for gaming, an i5 will suit your needs much better. If you go with an i5 you will beable to get a more high end graphics card.

i5 750 $199
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P7P55 LX $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR XMS3 4GB 1600MHz 8-8-8-24 $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could get a Corsair HX-750 for $30 less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Your case and HDD are good.

OEM Windows 7 64bit Ultimate $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now if you go with this i5 build you should be able to easily afford the HD 5870.

Thats my thoughts thanks.
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February 4, 2010 3:49:17 AM

Wolygon said:



You could get a Corsair HX-750 for $30 less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Your case and HDD are good.



Question regarding this PSU and my case. I've read a couple reviews that the cables are short. On the HAF 932 will the 4/8pin MB cable reach "running behind" the MB tray? If not where does one get an extension cable for the main MB cable?
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February 4, 2010 5:27:19 PM

Wolygon said:
Here is a picture:

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/computer-cases/102...

Hope that helps.


Thanks it does,

Last question is airflow for the case. With bottom mounted PSU it appears it will pull air from under case and immediately exhaust it out the back. As for the other 3 fans how should they be run? Front fan I assume should pull air into the case? Top fan exhaust out? What about the back fan in or out??. And the side fan, in or out? (with it being near the GPU I would assume in to provide additional cooling) but again just checking.

I know it seems like silly question. It's just I plan on OC'ing the i920 with air cooling only and want to get maximum airflow. I'm hoping to overclock it as close to 4ghz as I can get and remain stable on air cooling.



thanks for all your input it's appreciated.
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February 5, 2010 11:14:16 AM

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Last question is airflow for the case. With bottom mounted PSU it appears it will pull air from under case and immediately exhaust it out the back. As for the other 3 fans how should they be run? Front fan I assume should pull air into the case? Top fan exhaust out? What about the back fan in or out??. And the side fan, in or out? (with it being near the GPU I would assume in to provide additional cooling) but again just checking.

Yes these questions are ALL correct.

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and want to get maximum airflow

That's why your buying a HAF (High AirFlow). Reviews have showed that this case has very good airflow with low noise, it is a good choice. If you are having doubts about it (I'm sure your not) then just read some reviews.

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It's just I plan on OC'ing the i920

First of all it's i7 920 you made me think you were talking about some new apple product (Not Really). I suggested to get a i5 instead of the i7 but you did not decide to, you didn't say that you wanted to stick with the i7 in any post and instead just ignored what I said. I do not care that you want to go with a 920 but you could have said so, what was a going to attack you?

Also a tip for next time, if you could say the name of the item, the price and the link. Like I did when I suggested parts for an i5 build. Then I do not have to load each link to find out what item you are buying, and on my dial-up it takes a while trust me. Also now I cannot see whether you are buying a new heat sink, if I wanted to find out I would have to load each link. I'd also have to go have a cup of coffee while I wait for it to load and then I wouldn't be able to get to bed :(  . Anyway if I remember correctly, I think you are buying a 212 Plus. Sorry to sook but it's something you could do next time to make it a bit easier, thanks.

You didn't say what graphics card you are getting, HD 5850?

Hope I helped you through this process and I hope you have fun with your build.
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February 6, 2010 1:44:11 AM

Punkinator:

I apologize for the confusion. I'm on an extremely old and slow laptop right now and I just typed out a quick reply/question.

I'll try to provide links next time and be more thorough.

The 1st question you answered for me about fan orientation, you didn't quite catch everything. Sounds like the fans I listed you are saying are correctly oriented, however a couple I asked in or out.

Example the very back fan should that exhaust out, or pull air in towards the cpu fan?
Same question for the side? (sounds like you agreed with my pulling air in towards the GPU but just double checking).

So Front fan pulling air in (correct?)
Top Fan Exhausting hot air out (correct?)
Back fan (????)
PSU seems to take care of itself. (Pull air in from bottom) and exhaust out? (would that be all PSU's)
Side mounted fan Pulling air into the GPU from side (Correct?)

As far as the i7 920 (yes i know it's i7 was just a typo) I apologize for the confusion I decided to go with it (at a greater cost I realize) but to help future proof my system a little bit. Since I should "from what i have read" be able to OC it to very near 4ghz on air I think it's the better investment. Plus the added hyper threading for certain apps I'll use should be nice.

Graphics Card I'm still slightly up in the air on. I'm considering 2 x GTS 250's in SLI or XFX Ati 5850 black edition or going all out and getting the XFX Ati 5870. If you have any input on graphics card I'm all ears. I'm willing to go single card or SLI/Crossfire. Just looking at best investment for my $$$ factoring in my budget.

I was really leaning towards the 5850 as my best bet cost vs performance on my budget. But they seem to have creep-ed up in price as of late. So i'm wondering if I should just fork out an extra 50.00 even if I have to wait a couple weeks to get the 5870? I'm still trying to shop and see if I can find a 5850 for around 300.

Anyway I apologize if I annoyed you, I do however appreciate your advice.
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February 7, 2010 1:39:53 AM

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The 1st question you answered for me about fan orientation, you didn't quite catch everything.

Sorry about that.

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Example the very back fan should that exhaust out, or pull air in towards the cpu fan?
Same question for the side? (sounds like you agreed with my pulling air in towards the GPU but just double checking).

The back fan pushes that hot CPU air out of the case, in other words it is an exhaust. Yes the side fan pulls in air for the CPU and GPU. I don't see why your so excited since the fans come mounted with the case in the appropriate direction.

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PSU seems to take care of itself. (Pull air in from bottom) and exhaust out? (would that be all PSU's)

Yes it will pull air from the bottom and exhaust it out the back. No this is not all PSU's, ones which only have an 80mm from at the back will generally push air outside by sucking air from the case.

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I decided to go with it (at a greater cost I realize) but to help future proof my system a little bit. Since I should "from what i have read" be able to OC it to very near 4ghz on air I think it's the better investment. Plus the added hyper threading for certain apps I'll use should be nice.

Yes the x58 will be a better option for you in my opinion. If you want hyper threading with 1156 the i7 860 costs nearly the same as the 920. And you don't get Triple Channel memory or 2 PCIe slots that run at x16. Although I thought the i5 would be a ok since you said you will only really be gaming. But it seams you may be doing a bit more than that. Yes you should be able to OC to 4GHz rather easily.

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I'm considering 2 x GTS 250's in SLI or XFX Ati 5850 black edition or going all out and getting the XFX Ati 5870. If you have any input on graphics card I'm all ears. I'm willing to go single card or SLI/Crossfire. Just looking at best investment for my $$$ factoring in my budget.

The two GTS will be a bit faster in somethings than the 5850 although more power consumption, no dx11, SLI scaling problems and takes it up 2 PICe slots. I'd say that the 5850 is a better option, if you have the money then go for the 5870.

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I was really leaning towards the 5850 as my best bet cost vs performance on my budget. But they seem to have creep-ed up in price as of late. So i'm wondering if I should just fork out an extra 50.00 even if I have to wait a couple weeks to get the 5870? I'm still trying to shop and see if I can find a 5850 for around 300.


Why go for a black edition 5850? The extra $60 is not worth it, just go for the standard 5850 for $300. 2 GTS 250's will cost $280 and a standard 5850 will cost $300 that $20 is definitely worth it. Although the $80 more for the Black Edition is not. Go for the 5850 for $300 since that will be the best value for money, the 5870 for $100 more will be out of your budget a lot, and anyway the 5850 is a very powerful card so it will suit you well for a while. Heres the link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Anyway I apologize if I annoyed you, I do however appreciate your advice.

You certainly did not annoy me I enjoyed helping you decide on your build. Thanks.



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