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February 4, 2010 5:37:43 PM

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i am building my first PC here are all the components i am using. will they work together from start up or do i need to change anything? bios i have no clue about. So i need them to work great from the get go.

1) Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb

2) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

3) EVGA P55 FTW SLI 132-LF-E657-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

4) Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860

5) Ultra X4 Series 750W Atx Psu

6) BFG GeForce GTX 275 OverClocked Video Card

will theses all work from the get go without having to adjust the bios? Or do i need to change somethings? Any advice and input would be helpful

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February 4, 2010 5:55:18 PM

Do you already have these components? If not, I would ditch the old 750GB drive and pick up a modern drive that uses 500GB Platters. You can get a considerably faster 1TB drive for $10 more.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $89.99

You will probably need to manually set the RAM speed/timings/voltage in the BIOS to get them running at their rated specs. That's not a big deal, though, since you should do that anyway.

ATI GPU's are currently a much better option. What resolution does your monitor run at? What will you be doing with this system? What is your budget?

Please edit your post to include all the information in the "How to ask for new build advice" sticky so we can help optimize your build.
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February 4, 2010 6:52:40 PM

That's a good pick for your first build! All those parts will work great together!!
I agree with Using ATI cards though, especially if you want to use Dual Monitors.
They have a lot more Stream Processors for a more affordable price.
Check out an ATI 5750! It's Direct X 11!!

You will also need a DVD Drive and an Operating System, such as Windows 7.
Good Luck my friend!
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February 4, 2010 10:27:00 PM

ruggsy said:
hi
i am building my first PC here are all the components i am using. will they work together from start up or do i need to change anything? bios i have no clue about. So i need them to work great from the get go.

1) Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb

2) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

3) EVGA P55 FTW SLI 132-LF-E657-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
or
ASUS Maximus III Formula LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

4) Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860

5) Ultra X4 Series 750W Atx Psu

6) BFG GeForce GTX 275 OverClocked Video Card

will theses all work from the get go without having to adjust the bios? Or do i need to change somethings? Any advice and input would be helpful


used for:
mid lvl gaming and video use and diablo 3
I have never used ATI. always used EVGA, however willing to listen. i have about 250$ for a video card.
i would love to get the 1tb but i had to shave some money to meet my budget of 1200$
Monitor Name Acer P191W // Maximum Resolution 1440 x 900 < already own
case already own < measured space and cards will fit <CoolerMaster HAF 922 Mid
already own windows 7 32bit ultimate. < that's why i am stopping at 4 gb of ram max 32 bit can handle.
(learned that from here) :) 

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February 4, 2010 10:36:36 PM

i checked the drive listed above. it only has a 3 year warranty and mine has 5 year. From what i have read western digital is a better brand. with less noise and DOA. however if you can explain the difference a little better..
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February 4, 2010 11:13:22 PM

ruggsy said:
hi
i am building my first PC here are all the components i am using. will they work together from start up or do i need to change anything? bios i have no clue about. So i need them to work great from the get go.

1) Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb

2) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

3) EVGA P55 FTW SLI 132-LF-E657-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
or
ASUS Maximus III Formula LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

4) Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860

5) Ultra X4 Series 750W Atx Psu

6) BFG GeForce GTX 275 OverClocked Video Card

will theses all work from the get go without having to adjust the bios? Or do i need to change somethings? Any advice and input would be helpful



used for:
mid lvl gaming and video use and diablo 3
I have never used ATI. always used EVGA, however willing to listen. i have about 250$ for a video card.
i would love to get the 1tb but i had to shave some money to meet my budget of 1200$
Monitor Name Acer P191W // Maximum Resolution 1440 x 900 < already own
case already own < measured space and cards will fit <CoolerMaster HAF 922 Mid
already own windows 7 32bit ultimate. < that's why i am stopping at 4 gb of ram max 32 bit can handle.
(learned that from here) :) 



so is Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Video Card a good card for ATI ?
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February 4, 2010 11:20:28 PM

The difference is speed and comes down to platter density. The 750GB drive uses 250GB platters while the Samsung drives use 500GB platters. Higher data density and less platters = a faster and quieter drive. If you're going to stick with WD then I would go with either the 640GB or 1TB drives. The 640GB drive uses 320GB platters while the 1TB drive uses 333GB platters. If you don't need the extra storage, the 500GB Samsung F3 is a great choice.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $49.99

You don't need a high-end GPU at your low resolution unless you plan on upgrading the monitor soon. You don't need to spend over $200 on an LGA 1156 motherboard. You could go with a cheaper board and put the money saved toward a nice ATI GPU.

What kind of "video use" are you referring to? Will you just be watching videos or will you be doing video editing? If you're not going to be doing video editing then you should consider the i5 750 since it's nearly identical when it comes to gaming.

Here's a nice combo to consider:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $349.98 (Intel i5 750 + ASUS P7P55D PRO combo)

ATI cards are currently a lot better choice than Nvidia. The ATI cards offer more performance for the money, use less power, run cooler and quieter, and support DX11. A 5770 would game pretty well at your resolution and a 5850 would allow you to max out pretty much every game at your resolution.

HIS H585F1GDG Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card $289.99
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February 5, 2010 12:14:49 AM

Hard Drive - Check out the performance charts and pick whatever 500 GB per platter drive performs best under your usage patterns. The WD Black 2 TB is a good choice but at smaller capacities, you are limited to the Seagate 7200.12 or the Spinpoint F3. The 7200.12 excels in gaming, multimedia and pictures whereas the F3 wins at music and movie maker. See the comparisons here (copy past link in manually, link won't work in forum):

(http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[2371]=on&prod[2770]=on)

PSU - The X4 scored the lowest performance rating I have seen as yet on jonnyguru

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

GFX - THG doesn't see the 275 as a good choice in this price category. It's price being between the 5850 and the 5870. I'd skip the 275 unless PhysX is more important to you than Dx11.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,...

I wouldn't go near a 57xx tho, it can't do 30 fps on DX11 at 1920 resolution.

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February 5, 2010 2:40:12 AM

MADE A FEW CHANGES

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 90$

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory 114$ Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

EVGA P55 FTW SLI 132-LF-E657-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard 179$

Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Video Card 299$

Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor 279$

TOTAL=961$

NOW IN NEED OF A MODULAR POWER SUPPLY !!!!600 Watt or greater power supply with 2x 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connector 150$ LIMIT ON IT
ANY IDEAS WOULD BE WELCOME. ILL POST SOME I FIND AS WELL

THANKS TO EVERYONE HELPING ME OUT
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February 5, 2010 3:13:47 AM

THINK I FOUND ONE ANY SUGGESTIONS?

CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
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February 5, 2010 3:35:02 AM

That should be a great power supply, but you really don't need 750 watts with the setup you have. Even if you want to crossfire that 5850 in the future, you should be able to do that with a good 650 watt PSU.

Here is a 650 watt, modular Bronze rated Corsair PSU for $126 including shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's a 850 watt Seventeam modular, Bronze rated PSU for $129 including shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's serious overkill, but Seventeam make very good power supplies, and that deal is a steal

Here's a 850 watt Antec modular for about $124 including shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And the prices have gone up quite a bit on this 550 watt OCZ Fatal1ty
modular PSU :(  But it comes pretty highly recommended, and it would be enough to power your system. It's about $85 including shipping, and it comes with a $25 mail in rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 5, 2010 12:50:38 PM

Ok you fine fellows sold me on trying an ATI card. however a question or 2. Whats the diffrence in :
Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Video Card - 1GB GDDR5 / $299.99
or
Diamond Radeon HD 5850 Video Card - 1GB GDDR5 / $319.99
or
BFG GeForce GTX 280 Video Card - 1GB GDDR3 / $269.99
or
BFG GeForce GTX 275 OverClocked Video Card - 896MB / $234.99


WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN Diamond AND Sapphire?
YES I SEE ATI CARDS HAVE BETTER STATS
besides the warranty, being so short and not lifetime? ive read that there are some games that do not support ATI cards. So i need someone bi-est to explain. will i notice a big difference with the system i am running with the ATI cards?

will not be using use sli or crossover.
WILL ONLY USE 1 monitor. Maximum Resolution 1440 x 900
watch movies
play diablo 3 when released
mid lvl gamer NOT WORRIED ABOUT MAXING OUT JUST DON'T WANT LAG WHEN ALOT IS GOING ON ALL AT ONCE IN THE GAME.
CONNECTING TO MY PLASMA TV FOR KARAOKE.
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February 5, 2010 12:52:01 PM

Best answer selected by ruggsy.
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February 5, 2010 1:53:37 PM

AT this point, most of the designs are what is called "reference designs" .... in other words.....all manufacturers are using ATI's standard designs. The two variants with which I am familiar in the 5xxx series are Saphire's VaporX and Asus Voltage tweaked designs which both provide superior performance over their "reference" counterparts "out of the box".

If you are going to upgrade at some point to a 2nd GFX card and you are going to be OC'ing, I'd go for an 850 watt PSU. If you're gonna forever stick w/ one card, a 650 is more than enough. Of those recommended so far and including some noticeably absent, and some :

Antec CP-850 - best buy of the bunch ($109) and gets 10.0 performance rating at jonnyguru but designed to fit in only 3 cases....Antec 1200, P193 and P183.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Corsair HX-850 - bit of a cost premium ($169) compared to the one above which it matches electrically (10.0 jonnyguru perofrmance rating) though the CP-850 is noticeably quieter.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Antec SG-850 - Cream of the crop, top dog but w/ a top dog price ($219) unless you find a special deal. Hard to justify when it's CP-850 sibling is $109 and despite the SG's top ntch acoustical performance, the CP is quieter still.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Corsair TX-850 - One notch down from the HX line, this TX garners a 9.5 at jonnyguru.....$119 after $20 MIR
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Corsair - HX-620 - Top notch performer according to jonnyguru (9.5 rating) at a price of $129
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Corsair HX-650 - Not sure of this one.....no jonny review but why a 620 and a 650 watter. The 650's $89 price being so far below the 620 has me suspicious w/o a review to look at.

Corsair TX-750 - Average PSU with a JG performance rating of 8.5. Size tho is in between what you want .....bit large for 1 GFX card, bit undersized for 2.

Seventeam ST-850ZAF - No review for the 850 watta model but the 1200 watterf rom the same line garners a bit under average performance rating of 8.0
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Other ones to consider are the:

Seasonic X-650
Seasonic M12D 850W (Note: S12 is a different animal)

which are both on the Editor's Choice list here:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_PSUs
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February 12, 2010 2:38:08 AM

FINAL BUILD

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB x2 Timing 7-8-7-24-2N

ASUS SABERTOOTH 55i

Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156

Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint f3 7200 RPM 32MB Cache

XFX HD-585A-ZNBC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB Black Edition 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported ... - Retail

XFX P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Cooler Master RC-922M-KKN1-GP HAF 922M ATX Mid Tower Case (Black)

NZXT Sentry LX High Performance Fan Controller (Black)

Thermaltake SpinQ CPU Cooler
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