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February 4, 2010 11:45:41 PM

Hi guys,

Just hoping you can give me some better tips. Right now I'm at 510 before taxes and shipping at Newegg. I'm building a computer but I'm keeping my current monitor, my MSI GTS 250 1GB Twin Frozr OC edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) and my hdd.

I mainly play WoW and my current build has a Athlon x2 5000+, and a old am2 mobo with nvidia 6150 onboard graphics, could never find the actual number of it though. I have win 7 64 bit and currently 4 gigs of OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800 ram.

Amazing graphics aren't really that important to me, I'd much rather have high FPS for smooth game play a majority if not all of the time.

I'm planning on getting

- GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT-UD2H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- AMD Phenom II x2 550 BE Callisto 3.1ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Enzotech CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- OCZ StealthXstream 600w PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- G.Skill 4 gigs DDR3 1333 ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Xcilio Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do you think all that plus a GTS 250 would give me the results I'm aiming at for a 500 ish price?

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February 4, 2010 11:57:10 PM

Oh, this is my current computer (besides the upgrades I've made.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The GPU, Ram and PSU are the only upgrades I've made. The current PSU is a 500W I got from my buddy that's kinda old.

I turned the original exhaust fan around for intake and my only exhaust now is my psu. my graphics card never goes above 41 while playing WoW, but I turn the fans up to 100%. Sound isn't a huge thing for me, my computer is in my "man cave" right above the garage...so whatever.

Hopefully this can give a better idea of what I'm currently working with and how I want to upgrade.

Thanks again for any help.
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February 5, 2010 12:06:12 AM

I would suggest you change to the AMD Athlon II X3 435, which comes in a combo with your suggested motherboard. AMD Athlon II X3 435 & Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H AM3 $150 This change is recommended because the Athlon is usually better in games compared to the Phenom. As the lower price. The savings could be spent a more expensive motherboard, the only advantage to which would be being able to crossfire. Which that PSU can handle.
I also suggest that you look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, as I suspect that it is a better cooler than that Enzotech, and it is cheaper.
I suggest that you look at cases that are around $100 and have less of a shipping charge, I believe that you could get a CM 690 II or HAF 922 for around the same price that you will end up paying for that Xclio.
The OCZ ModXStream 600W is the same price as the StealthXStream, has a smaller shipping charge, greater rebate and has a lot of combo options.
Hopefully this will help you out for now, I'll check this thread again tomorrow.
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February 5, 2010 12:22:40 AM

Get rid of the phenom for sure. Get an AMD Athlon II 620 or 630 which is about the same price, and cheaper. Silvune said get a Hyper 212 Plus, I agree, but unless you plan on overclocking alot, the stock cooler is great. (Running at like 30c on stock Athlon 620 here. If you want to invest a couple bucks into cooling, pick up some good thermal compound and put it on the stock cooler, which would only be like $5-7...AC MX-2 is good and so is Arctic Silver 5.

I am also running my whole system on a 430W Seasonic PSU, so you might be alright with less wattage, 500W maybe. Seasonic (best PSU manufacturer in the world) has a 500W model for about $100. Antec has a really efficient Earthwatts as well, 500W.

Otherwise looks good.
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February 5, 2010 2:21:00 AM

The Hyper will reduce noise (if that matters at all to you) since it will be able to run at much lower RPMs and still stay cool (shoot, it could probably passive cool, especially with those huge side case fans!).
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February 5, 2010 5:15:45 PM

Thanks for the input so far guys. I've switched to the Hyper 212, plus I like that no ram slots will be blocked.

Is there a lot of performance difference between a mATX and regular ATX motherboard? The antec 300 is a lot cheaper and I like the look, so do you have any suggestions for a good ATX mobo for a reasonable price?
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February 5, 2010 6:43:18 PM

Performance difference? No, it will perform the same. All that mATX hurts is the number of expansion slots. And you can still use a mATX board in the ATX Antec 300.
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February 6, 2010 4:47:08 PM

Is the Athlon better than the Phenom?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,241...

EDIT: Wrong link :) 

I think the Phenom II is slightly faster than the Athlon, but I think the difference is negligible and for a budget build you'd be better off putting the savings to use.
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February 6, 2010 6:08:24 PM

Well, the Athlon lacks the L3 cache, which in some cases is useless and others fairly important. All depends on the application.
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March 26, 2010 9:58:20 PM

PLEASE... upgrade it to Consair PSU 650w 80+ $100, it contained 54A +12V, but I be scared if I plug a video card that need 24A into something that doesn't dedicate all it's power to your video card.

You can't go wrong for an extra $20's for better power improvement.
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