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Upgrade from 8800gt to run Bad Company 2

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January 29, 2010 12:47:00 PM

So, after Bad Company 2 is out the 4th March, i've decided to upgrade my system to be able to run it as good as possible without spending a crazy amount

My current system:
8800gt 512mb
4gb DDR2 RAM
500gb HD
AMD 5600+ x2
Corsair 500w PSU

I'd like to keep the PSU as it's relatively new.

Thanks in advance
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 1:45:49 PM

Well,
Your PSU is just perfect.

Now keeping in mind, you don't want to spend much of the money here is a solution for you:

Intel Core i5-750----$195
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard------ $165
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600---- $85
XFX Radeon HD 5770------- $165

I guess thats it.
And if you want a new case
COOLER MASTER RC-690------ $70



GooD LucK
January 29, 2010 9:37:53 PM

The i5-750 is pretty much the best bang for the buck right now. Overclocks very well on a less expensive platform than the i7's. At about 199.99 it's hard to beat.

If you can spare the extra change go for a HD 5850 for about $299.99. Well out-performs the 5770. The 5770 is not a high performance card. The HD 4890 is a better choice but is older technology. Either that or you could wait and see what Nvidia brings us in a few month2! ;) 

Edit: The HD 5850 is the highest I would go on that PSU :) 
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a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2010 11:14:30 PM

okini55 you make no sence

i7 920 = tri channel, if you dont use it why bother with the 9 series / 1366 socket?

ATi 5830 doesnt exist


mfarrukh is on the money
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 4:06:35 AM

5830 comes out next moth
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 4:11:46 AM

We need to know your motherboard's brand/model. It's likely an AM2 board which means there is a decent chance it can handle current AMD processors with a bios update. We also need to know your monitor's native resolution and some kind of budget besides "not a crazy amount."
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 1:42:42 PM

I would go with a AMD Phenom II X4 925 quad core or higher (if your mobo supports it), and for the graphic card i would go with a gtx275 or 5850 or higher. By the way what resolution are you running at?
January 30, 2010 2:17:11 PM

Native resolution is 1600x1200, i'm not sure what motherboard i'm using right now, but pretty sure it supports AM3.

And is CPU or GPU most important in Bad Company 2, since if i buy a 5850 card, i might have to wait a little before having money for the CPU and vice versa.

And will my Corsair 500w PSU be able to run, lets say, a phenom II 965 and ATI 5850 along with the rest of the components?

Thanks in advance
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 2:20:40 PM

Yeh Your PSU is more than fine
I would say GPU is more important, but you cannot denny the importance of a CPU with higher clock speed
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 2:46:26 PM

For 1600x1200 I would just get an HD5770. It should be very good for that resolution and allow you to afford a new cpu now. Tell us what the brand and model of your motherboard is.
January 30, 2010 2:47:21 PM

At the moment i'm having 4gb RAM at 800mhz, will this be a bottleneck to phenom II 955 and HD5850?
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 2:53:26 PM

Bottleneck to some extent
January 30, 2010 3:01:45 PM

Could you suggest an upgrade, which doesn't cost much more than 100$
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 3:03:45 PM

Why not go for 5770 for $160
January 30, 2010 3:13:48 PM

the upgrade for 100$ was RAM.

I really wan't to play Bad Company 2 as good as possible with all the eye candy up, so that's why i'd rather go with the 5850
January 30, 2010 3:44:09 PM

First off, thanks for fast responses =)

Question is, how big of a difference does ram make in games? are we talking like 1-2fps or 10+?

Anyway, i found my motherboard and it's a Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H, will this be compatible with XFX 5850 BE, Phenom II 955 and then ddr3 ram?
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 3:50:01 PM

If it has a PCIe x16 slot
Its perfect

Yeh, w are talking about 1-2 fps difference
January 30, 2010 3:54:38 PM

Well in that case, i think i'm gonna skip upgrading ram, and then spend the extra on a GPU/CPU

I read around the net, and found out that my motherboard supports AM2+ processors, but then i found this site

http://www.giga-byte.dk/products/mb/bios/ga-ma78gm-s2h_...

And "780G / Socket AM2+ (AM3 CPU support)" is the header, does that mean that i can use the Phenom II 965 with my motherboard?
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 4:00:50 PM

The Phenom II 965 uses AM3 Socket
So you can only use a motherboard which supports AM3 socket
January 30, 2010 4:16:58 PM

And all this will run stable on my Corsair 520w PSU?
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 4:20:13 PM

More than fine
January 30, 2010 4:29:03 PM

Great! =)

Thanks a lot m8 for helping me out
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 5:54:45 PM

Be sure to get the the newer Phenom II 965 125watt version which is the same price as the older 140w one.

Part No. : HDZ965FBGMBOX

will draw less power or be more OC'able.

My bro just put together a system with this paired with a 5770 - all the 5850's are overpriced here due to high demand atm :( 

Should make for a sweet system ^^
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 6:00:05 PM

DON'T UPGRADE THE RAM! DDR2-800 is more than fine!

All AM3 CPU's are backwards compatible, meanings any Phenom II/Athlon II will work in your mobo.
I would suggest getting the Athlon II X4 620
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want a little more you can get the 630 at 2.8GHz or 635 at 2.9GHz, anymore money and get the Phenom II X4 955.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is the C3 stepping, making it identical to a 965.

Do not get the 965 BE, upping the 955's multi by 1 in the BIOS or AMD Overdrive will be the same.

Quick Tip:
HDZ955FBGMBOX
955 = Model (955, 965, etc)
M = C3 stepping, I = Older
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 6:24:29 PM

Here is the official cpu support list for your motherboard;
http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_M...
seems like basically it can handle any current AMD chip you want to put in there. Make sure you update your bios to the latest version before attempting to switch out the cpu.
Your PSU is fine, as is your ram. You would need a new motherboard for DDR3 so I'm not sure why that was linked.
These would be a good choice;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 6:33:35 PM

Yes, that is the C3 955 (same as one I linked), a 5750 wouldn't be that big of an upgrade, I would recommend a 5770.
Don't get a 5850, it's mostly wasted on 1600x1200.
January 30, 2010 6:53:25 PM

jyjjy said:
Here is the official cpu support list for your motherboard;
http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_M...
seems like basically it can handle any current AMD chip you want to put in there. Make sure you update your bios to the latest version before attempting to switch out the cpu.
Your PSU is fine, as is your ram. You would need a new motherboard for DDR3 so I'm not sure why that was linked.
These would be a good choice;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Are you sure, as far as i could see the Phenom II 955/965 wasn't on the list
January 30, 2010 6:58:15 PM

sabot00 said:
Yes, that is the C3 955 (same as one I linked), a 5750 wouldn't be that big of an upgrade, I would recommend a 5770.
Don't get a 5850, it's mostly wasted on 1600x1200.


Sorry, just saw that my native resolution is actually 1680x1080.

Anyway, i have the Samsung SyncMaster 2232bw 22' monitor, if i wish to play at 1920x1080, does that mean that i have to go and get a whole new monitor, since i bought this one last year.

And are you sure that 5850 is a waste in that resolution, i mean, it's better and i'll be able to run higher settings
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 6:59:52 PM

The 955 is on the list actually, the C2 stepping at least. I'd imagine the 965 and C3 955 would work as well and they simply haven't tested them yet as these are all pretty much the same chip with different clock settings(there are C3 chips listed.) You may want to contact gigabyte to make absolutely certain however. If they say no get the C2 955 I guess;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 7:10:25 PM

nytz said:
Sorry, just saw that my native resolution is actually 1680x1080.

Anyway, i have the Samsung SyncMaster 2232bw 22' monitor, if i wish to play at 1920x1080, does that mean that i have to go and get a whole new monitor, since i bought this one last year.

And are you sure that 5850 is a waste in that resolution, i mean, it's better and i'll be able to run higher settings

Yeah, you mean 1680x1050 actually. It's a much more common and actually slightly lower res than what you were saying earlier. Yes you would need to buy a new monitor for 1920x1080. The HD5770 is actually a good card for 1920x1080 so it will be great for your current monitor. You can get the HD5850 but it's much more expensive and I would only consider it if you actually are going to upgrade the monitor. Even then it's kind of a luxury although a nice one if you can afford it I guess.
January 30, 2010 7:14:34 PM

jyjjy said:
Yeah, you mean 1680x1050 actually. It's a much more common and actually slightly lower res than what you were saying earlier. Yes you would need to buy a new monitor for 1920x1080. The HD5770 is actually a good card for 1920x1080 so it will be great for your current monitor. You can get the HD5850 but it's much more expensive and I would only consider it if you actually are going to upgrade the monitor. Even then it's kind of a luxury although a nice one if you can afford it I guess.


But do you think that the 5770 could run Bad Company 2 nad future games at highest possible settings at a good fps?
January 30, 2010 7:32:00 PM

And does the motherboard play any part, performance wise? Or is it just something connecting everything?
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 30, 2010 7:33:03 PM

Yeah, the HD5830 is a decent idea. You would have to wait a lil bit until it comes out however.
As for the HD5770 I'll use the example of Far Cry 2 which is one of the more intensive games out there. Here is how it does at your resolution with the settings maxed and 4xAA;

Over 30 fps is considered smooth in general and over 40 good.
a b U Graphics card
January 31, 2010 12:15:57 AM

looks good.

But remember that most graphs show avg fps.

So at 55fps it shouldn't dip too much below 30 during intense action, which is good :) 

I think the real test will be to see how AvP does on Feb 16th and see how much of a hit the tesselation and other options hit these cards.
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