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February 5, 2010 2:28:44 AM

Need some help deciiding on the right power supply for a new build.
Havent done this in a while, so a lot of research has gone into picking and choosing. Mine is fairly straight forward. The power supply thing is got me hung up.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: in a week
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: movies, internet, video editing
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg, tigerdirect

PARTS PREFERENCES: Asus mobo, all else unsure
OVERCLOCKING: No
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe, but for now will stick with the intergrated graphics both the H55 chipset and i5 661 has to offer.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1024x768

Parts using in new build;
MOBO- Asus P7H55D-M-EVO 9uATX) form factor
CPU-i5 661
Ram-2ea Kingston KVR1333D3n9K2/2G =4GB
Case-Thermaltake VF6000BWS
OS-Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Power suppy choices- unsure at this point
Ultra X4 500W, ULT40364
Thermaltake TR2 600W
Theramltake Toughpower 750W

Thanks in advance, I hope there is enough info to go on
Richard

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February 5, 2010 11:53:44 AM

Got some changes besides just the PSU.

First, the i5-661 is worthless. If this is strictly an HTPC, drop down to either of the i3 (preferably the cheaper one) and save yourself a good $60. If you want the ability to play games later, get the i5-750 and save $10.

Second, are those all the PSU choices you have? Are you planning to add a single GPU later or two? Are you going to upgrade your monitor later? This also depends on what GPU you want to add. If you're planning on adding any single GPU, the most you'll need is 500W. Stick with Corsair, Antec Earthwatts, OCZ, FSP or SeaSonic to ensure you get a quality unit. If you want to add two GPUs later, you'd need at least 700W. If you don't want to add one later, you'd only need a 350-450W.
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February 5, 2010 1:11:01 PM

Thanks for the replies.
No, its going to be a do all kinda computer. I dont do gaming, so a single GPU will probably be the most I would add later. However I do a fair amount of video ripping, editing and rendering.
Why do say the i5 661 is worthless? I picked for it's GPU freq rate of 900MHZ vs the 733MHZ that the other i5's offer. Of course I have had no experience with it.
Would the i3's give the kinda proformance I need for video editing,rendering?

As far as the power supply goes,
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" ... -
ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W Power Supply - Retail
ATX12V / EPS12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 5, 2010 1:16:07 PM

MadAdmiral said:
Got some changes besides just the PSU.

First, the i5-661 is worthless. If this is strictly an HTPC, drop down to either of the i3 (preferably the cheaper one) and save yourself a good $60. If you want the ability to play games later, get the i5-750 and save $10.

Second, are those all the PSU choices you have? Are you planning to add a single GPU later or two? Are you going to upgrade your monitor later? This also depends on what GPU you want to add. If you're planning on adding any single GPU, the most you'll need is 500W. Stick with Corsair, Antec Earthwatts, OCZ, FSP or SeaSonic to ensure you get a quality unit. If you want to add two GPUs later, you'd need at least 700W. If you don't want to add one later, you'd only need a 350-450W.



One more thought. If I get the i5 750 now and save $10, then I have to buy a GPU now.
Thanks for the input. Since the H55 chipset has onboard graphics I am ok with the default GPU.
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February 5, 2010 1:31:06 PM

The i5-661 is worthless because it's an expensive dual core that doesn't offer the same performance as the cheaper i5-750.

For your uses, you definitely want to get a quad core. The i7-860 would be the best choice, but at $280, it might be out of budget. You should definitely get at least the i5-750 and a cheap GPU. Or you could also get an AMD build and use the X4 955 and a cheap board with integrated graphics.
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February 5, 2010 1:34:41 PM

Suggestion, Don't put your graphics on your CPU, instead by a cheap budget card, it will be able to handle the graphical processes much easier. There are a lot of great ATI budget cards.

If you don't mind spending the extra $75 dollars you can get a HD 4670, which will run great, for basic uses and video editing.

The major factor is that when you dump the graphics on the CPU as well, you are really adding stress to it that is not necessary.

Also by doing this you take the load of your CPU and allow that to do other things, rather then having to render as well.
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February 5, 2010 5:52:24 PM

What kind of budget do you have for this build ?
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February 5, 2010 10:51:11 PM

I never thought of the added stress on the CPU. That's a really good idea. My original gut told me to use the i5 750.
So, maybe I need to re-think this and go with the i5 750 and a MOBO with the P55 chipset, since I would be adding a discrete GPU going that route.
As far as budget, not a major issue, trying to stay under $1000 for sure.
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February 5, 2010 11:20:20 PM

maybe a build like this



Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827118030
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan
The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info)
• 1 year: $6.99
• 2 year: $11.99
$24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129066
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
$69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant
$54.99
$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814102858
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan
The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info)
• 1 year: $19.99
• 2 year: $35.99
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$179.99
$169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817341022
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$84.99
$74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231276
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128412
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant
$139.99
$134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115215
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
$199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116754
Return Policy: Software Return Policy
$104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Subtotal: $944.91

look for combos also / this one saves 15.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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February 5, 2010 11:40:06 PM

Yeah having the CPU do the work of GPU, can put a lot of wanted stress on it.
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February 8, 2010 1:54:55 AM

Sorry for the late reply, had a unforseen out of town trip to take. I'll get back toeveryone on the teh new info.
Richard
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February 8, 2010 2:37:41 AM

Here goes, if I go with the i5 750, then I dont need to spend the money on a MOBO with intergrated graphics. I have no problem moving up to a ATX form instead of the uATX. I perfer to stay with either ASUS or INTEL MOBO's.
This is what I have come up w/so far-

ASUS P7P55D Deluxe, $219 with $25 mail-in rebate=$195

i5 750 CPU, $199

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM,$25.00

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $70.00

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power , $85.00-$10=$75.00-$25 mail i rebate=$50.00

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory, $115.00

Dont need a hard drive

Still unsure of Discrete grahpics card.

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February 8, 2010 2:49:23 AM

HD 5850 reviews

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2433.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/17652
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3650
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HD 5770 reviews

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-tes...
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658

For your rez a HD 5770 will be grate, If you are thinking about moving up to a 1920x1080 rez in the next year might want to look into a HD 5850

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February 8, 2010 12:45:47 PM

The 5850 is overkill for his resolution monitor.

The 5770 will be more then enough for what you want to do. It will game, and be bale to handle anything else you throw at it.
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February 8, 2010 5:24:34 PM

Looks like the 5770 is it.
One more question what is the difference between the full retail version and system builders version of the Win 7 OS?
Here is what I found-
Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. ]This OEM System Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once it is installed. To acquire Windows software with support provided by Microsoft please see our full package "Retail" product offerings.
2 things jump out at me....new computer for re-sale and cannot be transfered to another.
Now, if your never goingto put it on another computer thenits not an issue.

Thoughts???
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February 8, 2010 5:39:02 PM

The only differences between retail and OEM aren't that big. First, if you have an OEM copy, you can't contact Microsoft for support. Second, once installed, the copy is tied to the motherboard, so if that needs to be replaced, you need a new copy of Windows.

Keep in mind that the price of 1 retail copy is about the same as 2 OEM copies. I'd go with the OEM version...
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February 8, 2010 5:52:19 PM

Thats exactly were I was going with this. Thanks
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February 9, 2010 12:06:53 AM

hopkiller said:
The 5850 is overkill for his resolution monitor.

The 5770 will be more then enough for what you want to do. It will game, and be bale to handle anything else you throw at it.


Yeah that's why i had it in the build i speced for him ( just was posting reviews so he could see for himself that it would be a good GPU )



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February 9, 2010 1:25:05 AM

I agree with both u guys...its overkill for me right now, but it's also within my budget.
The reviews helped me a lot.
Thanks to both of you
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February 11, 2010 2:37:30 PM

After much thought, I decided to go with a Gigabyte MOBO. For the money and the features that I was looking for it fit the best. To be able to have SATA and PATA, along with PS2, SLI/CF support, not to mention USB 3.0 along with All the reviews that I read were all good. my original plan was to use a ASUS or INTEL.
So, here is the system I have put together. Money spent....

Item List:
1 x ($27.99) DVD BURN SONY|AD-7240S-0B % - OEM $27.99
N82E16827118030

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1 x ($139.99) WIN PRO 7 64-BT ENG 1PK DSP OEI DVD - OEM $139.99
N82E16832116758

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1 x ($108.99) MEM KINGSTON 2x2G KVR1333D3N9K2/4G - Retail $108.99
N82E16820134810
Memory selected from QVL
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1 x ($74.99) VGA GIGABYTE | GV-R467ZL-1GI RT - Retail $74.99
N82E16814125277
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1 x ($61.99) CASE ANTEC|THREE HUNDRED ILLUSION R - Retail $61.99
N82E16811129066

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1 x ($74.99) PSU OCZ|OCZ550FTY 550W RT - Retail $74.99
N82E16817341022

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1 x ($199.99) CPU INTEL|CORE I5 750 2.66G R - Retail $199.99
N82E16819115215

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1 x ($159.99) MB GIGABYTE|GA-P55A-UD3P P55 RT - Retail $159.99
N82E16813128417

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1 x ($-15.00) DISCOUNT FOR COMBO #332520$-15.00

MOBO/CPU discount
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$862.60
Again, thanks to everyone who contributed to my selections. I will post again after the new build

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February 21, 2010 6:33:01 PM

Best answer selected by rmturner54.
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