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Anonymous
April 17, 2005 6:53:38 AM

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I have 5504, that has no subscription, yet. I was wondering what the
largest single HD I can install in this unit. I was about to put in a
160Gb, but since 200Gb, 250Gb or even 300Gb HDs are getting cheaper, it may
be better to put one of those instead.

Also would I need to subscribe it with the 40Gb, before doing the upgrade or
does it matter?

Any truth to the rumor, that you can transfer a 2000 or 3000 subscription to
a 5000? With a lot of dead 2000s and 3000s laying around, it would be a
great way to get lifetime subscription.

Thanks in advance,

JW

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Anonymous
April 17, 2005 9:06:04 AM

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Joseph Wind wrote:
> I have 5504, that has no subscription, yet. I was wondering what the
> largest single HD I can install in this unit. I was about to put in a
> 160Gb, but since 200Gb, 250Gb or even 300Gb HDs are getting cheaper, it may
> be better to put one of those instead.

There is no size limit, however some brands do not work in Replay 5ks.
The new line of Maxtor 16meg cache drives do not work. Cache is
superfluous for Replays and the algorithms on these drives screw things
up. Use the smaller cache Maxtors, Seagates (3 yr warranty) or Western
Digital (noisier). PU82 has done extensive drive tests on the Replay
forum at avsforums.com
>
> Also would I need to subscribe it with the 40Gb, before doing the upgrade or
> does it matter?

The drive has nothing to do with activation.
>
> Any truth to the rumor, that you can transfer a 2000 or 3000 subscription to
> a 5000? With a lot of dead 2000s and 3000s laying around, it would be a
> great way to get lifetime subscription.

You can transfer from a Replay branded unit (not Panasonic). You have to
tell them it is dead (Do not connect with it for a few weeks). I don't
know where you think "a lot of dead" units are "laying around". Very
little goes wrong with a Replay, mostly fried modems, but they are
usually grabbed up and repaired. Broken 3Ks go for a pretty penny on eBay.
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 9:36:31 AM

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Eventually all things die. There is a finite supply of ReplayTV parts.
Units with fried modems are the first ones to go. With the heat problem in
the early units, processors, memory, mainboards are likely candidates.
Other factors may come into play to turn it into a doorstop; "Acts of God",
fire, flood, children, etc. are examples. Let's not forget power supplies,
but they can easily substituted with PC power supplies. The only thing you
have worth anything is the lifetime subscription. We may never know if
programming information or support will continue to be provided in the near
future. For all intensive purposes, ReplayTV is the next to go the way of
UltimateTV.

BTW I checked eBay and there are no broken Replays for sale, unless the
scammers are trying pawn off broken ones for working ones. Used 3Ks are
going for $100. That's still less than $299 for Lifetime subscription if
you don't get sold one that had the Lifetime Subscription transferred.
Caveat Emptor should be the eBay slogan.

I'm surprised there aren't any Replay clones out there, or someone whose
figured out how to make one. But that's another thread.

R-mon


"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Any truth to the rumor, that you can transfer a 2000 or 3000
subscription to
> > a 5000? With a lot of dead 2000s and 3000s laying around, it would be a
> > great way to get lifetime subscription.
>
> You can transfer from a Replay branded unit (not Panasonic). You have to
> tell them it is dead (Do not connect with it for a few weeks). I don't
> know where you think "a lot of dead" units are "laying around". Very
> little goes wrong with a Replay, mostly fried modems, but they are
> usually grabbed up and repaired. Broken 3Ks go for a pretty penny on eBay.
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Anonymous
April 17, 2005 2:05:42 PM

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In article <Sck8e.17054$ox3.16126@trnddc03>,
"Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote:

> I have 5504, that has no subscription, yet. I was wondering what the
> largest single HD I can install in this unit. I was about to put in a
> 160Gb, but since 200Gb, 250Gb or even 300Gb HDs are getting cheaper, it may
> be better to put one of those instead.

I have a 200GB unit in one of my 5000 units. You should be fine with
just about anything.



> Also would I need to subscribe it with the 40Gb, before doing the upgrade or
> does it matter?

I didn't. It didn't matter. Before powering them up even, I unscrewed
the lid and put big drives in. Call me reckless.
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 2:59:37 PM

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:53:38 GMT, "Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com> wrote:

>I have 5504, that has no subscription, yet.

I guess you're still in the "grace period". I waited a few days to
make sure mine worked, before activating. It's a good idea to do so a
couple of days before the end of that period, because of business
delays.

> I was wondering what the
>largest single HD I can install in this unit.

That would appear to be the limit for LBA48, which is around 128PB
(134,217,728GB). This is much larger than any drive that'll be
available for several years. The Replay software itself has a limit
(which I don't know), but that shouldn't cause a problem for drives up
to 250GB. Larger ones may be OK too.

There are still some drives that don't work. Read the other posts in
this thread.

> I was about to put in a
>160Gb, but since 200Gb, 250Gb or even 300Gb HDs are getting cheaper, it may
>be better to put one of those instead.
>

Consider how much space you'll use. There's no need for a 300GB
(allows 300 hours) drive if you never use more than 30GB.

I was going to upgrade to a larger drive, but found DVArchive and
never had a need to.

>Also would I need to subscribe it with the 40Gb, before doing the upgrade or
>does it matter?
>

The subscription (activation) information is stored on the
motherboard, and has nothing to do with the drive used. Activation
stays with the unit, whatever drive is installed.

>Any truth to the rumor, that you can transfer a 2000 or 3000 subscription to
>a 5000? With a lot of dead 2000s and 3000s laying around, it would be a
>great way to get lifetime subscription.
>

People say you can. I hope so. That sounds like something I'd want to
do with my next Replay.

>Thanks in advance,
>
>JW
>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 5:24:04 PM

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In article <rb1561p052vut1aghbifb1qketq8bul480@4ax.com>,
Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:

> Consider how much space you'll use. There's no need for a 300GB
> (allows 300 hours) drive if you never use more than 30GB.

There's nothing like having a big tank available of things *I* want to
watch.

One day, I imagine, I'll be sick enough to stay home for a few days--and
it'll be nice having all that stuff ready to go.
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 5:24:05 PM

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:24:04 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <rb1561p052vut1aghbifb1qketq8bul480@4ax.com>,
> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
>> Consider how much space you'll use. There's no need for a 300GB
>> (allows 300 hours) drive if you never use more than 30GB.
>
>There's nothing like having a big tank available of things *I* want to
>watch.
>

Of course, big tanks cost more and may be more useful elsewhere...

>One day, I imagine, I'll be sick enough to stay home for a few days--and
>it'll be nice having all that stuff ready to go.

I won't have a problem, since I have DVA set up to transfer stuff to a
computer (which is where that large drive is now).

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 6:12:55 PM

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I have to agree. I usually out of town for weeks, sometimes months. I
usually don't have time to watch a show at the actual time it's on. Which
makes sense of having a large HD. The bigger the better, but how big?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-479F11.13240417042005@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <rb1561p052vut1aghbifb1qketq8bul480@4ax.com>,
> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
> > Consider how much space you'll use. There's no need for a 300GB
> > (allows 300 hours) drive if you never use more than 30GB.
>
> There's nothing like having a big tank available of things *I* want to
> watch.
>
> One day, I imagine, I'll be sick enough to stay home for a few days--and
> it'll be nice having all that stuff ready to go.
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 6:17:47 PM

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Rastamon wrote:

> Eventually all things die. There is a finite supply of ReplayTV parts.
> Units with fried modems are the first ones to go. With the heat problem in
> the early units, processors, memory, mainboards are likely candidates.
> Other factors may come into play to turn it into a doorstop; "Acts of God",
> fire, flood, children, etc. are examples. Let's not forget power supplies,
> but they can easily substituted with PC power supplies. The only thing you
> have worth anything is the lifetime subscription. We may never know if
> programming information or support will continue to be provided in the near
> future. For all intensive purposes, ReplayTV is the next to go the way of
> UltimateTV.
>
> BTW I checked eBay and there are no broken Replays for sale, unless the
> scammers are trying pawn off broken ones for working ones. Used 3Ks are
> going for $100. That's still less than $299 for Lifetime subscription if
> you don't get sold one that had the Lifetime Subscription transferred.
> Caveat Emptor should be the eBay slogan.

Tell me, do you investigate anything or just make up stuff that sounds good?

The Replay 3K do not have a "heat problem" unless you refer to the metal
housing used to quiet the drive. This of course has no effect on the
rest of the unit. The majority of "bad power supplies" are simply
tarnished connectors going to the interrupt module. The only fairly
common problem is lightning struck modems because of careless owners.
Even that can be replaced.

Replay next to go??? DNNA is a robust manufacturing company, the Replay
division is in the black and new models being developed. The only
question is whether there will be a separate product line called
"ReplayTV". DNNA and Tribune Media have signed an agreement to cooperate
and distribute their technologies. Tribune suppplies Tivo/Replay, etc
with their guides.

A 3K on eBay for $100???? Day one of a 7 day auction?? The remotes go
for $50. Seaching on completed auctions, the first 3K was a 3060 sold at
$275. I actively look for "Defective" 3K and 5K units because I buy
them. 95% of the time there is nothing at all wrong with them. I upgrade
them and sell them. I haven't gotten a 3K in a long time because
"defective" ones go over $120 and I won't pay that.
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 10:03:27 PM

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:12:55 -0700, "Rastamon"
<Rastamon@dakine.eh.invalid> wrote:

>I have to agree. I usually out of town for weeks, sometimes months. I
>usually don't have time to watch a show at the actual time it's on. Which
>makes sense of having a large HD. The bigger the better, but how big?
>

I have a big drive too. It's just in the computer. It's a second hard
drive, which is dedicated to storing video files. That's where
DVArchive automatically copies them. BTW, I was just sick for a couple
of weeks, and have a bunch accumulated.

Also, I find that I'm often watching a show and have no idea when it
was broadcast, or even on what channel.

>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>news:elmop-479F11.13240417042005@text.usenetserver.com...
>> In article <rb1561p052vut1aghbifb1qketq8bul480@4ax.com>,
>> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Consider how much space you'll use. There's no need for a 300GB
>> > (allows 300 hours) drive if you never use more than 30GB.
>>
>> There's nothing like having a big tank available of things *I* want to
>> watch.
>>
>> One day, I imagine, I'll be sick enough to stay home for a few days--and
>> it'll be nice having all that stuff ready to go.
>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 11:25:33 PM

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My 5040 (Which is, I'm told identically, hardware wise to your (and my)
5504) has been upgraded to a 50200 so I know they will take 200 Gig, and
in fact I'm told larger is not a problem either

Re, Lifetimes transfers... Anyone got one lying about in a dust bin they
would be willing to sell me the rights to? Thanks in advance

Joseph Wind wrote:
> I have 5504, that has no subscription, yet. I was wondering what the
> largest single HD I can install in this unit. I was about to put in a
> 160Gb, but since 200Gb, 250Gb or even 300Gb HDs are getting cheaper, it may
> be better to put one of those instead.
>
> Also would I need to subscribe it with the 40Gb, before doing the upgrade or
> does it matter?
>
> Any truth to the rumor, that you can transfer a 2000 or 3000 subscription to
> a 5000? With a lot of dead 2000s and 3000s laying around, it would be a
> great way to get lifetime subscription.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> JW
>
>

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 12:18:48 AM

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In article <7lq561lnjcv8lahpjt17a1nf8vntthgpe4@4ax.com>,
Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:

> >I have to agree. I usually out of town for weeks, sometimes months. I
> >usually don't have time to watch a show at the actual time it's on. Which
> >makes sense of having a large HD. The bigger the better, but how big?
> >
>
> I have a big drive too. It's just in the computer. It's a second hard
> drive, which is dedicated to storing video files. That's where
> DVArchive automatically copies them.

Ah, but if you go somewhere to visit for a couple of weeks, having
everything inside the RTV unit itself is MUCH handier. There's only one
thing to carry with you and hook up.

If your stuff is in your computer, and you want to take your RTV with
you....now you're stuck dragging your computer along as well.
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 12:18:49 AM

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:18:48 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <7lq561lnjcv8lahpjt17a1nf8vntthgpe4@4ax.com>,
> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
>> >I have to agree. I usually out of town for weeks, sometimes months. I
>> >usually don't have time to watch a show at the actual time it's on. Which
>> >makes sense of having a large HD. The bigger the better, but how big?
>> >
>>
>> I have a big drive too. It's just in the computer. It's a second hard
>> drive, which is dedicated to storing video files. That's where
>> DVArchive automatically copies them.
>
>Ah, but if you go somewhere to visit for a couple of weeks, having
>everything inside the RTV unit itself is MUCH handier. There's only one
>thing to carry with you and hook up.
>

Yes. I said consider if you have a need for a larger drive, not that
you didn't. If that case you would. Or you could just take the
COMPUTER (with the shows on it now). The best way (least to carry) may
be to make DVDs of the shows you want. I've done that.

>If your stuff is in your computer, and you want to take your RTV with
>you....now you're stuck dragging your computer along as well.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 3:33:28 PM

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To answer your question "How Big" you must first do some research

Step 1: Find out what drives work best with Replay (IE- Maxtor Quick
View drives work well)

Step 2a: Find out how much money you can afford,

Step 2b: If in the US do the american thing and add 50% to the number in
Step 2a

Step 3: Go to computer store

Step 4; Buy the biggest drive that you can't afford (See step 2b

Ok, I'm jokin about step 2b)



Rastamon wrote:
> I have to agree. I usually out of town for weeks, sometimes months. I
> usually don't have time to watch a show at the actual time it's on. Which
> makes sense of having a large HD. The bigger the better, but how big?


--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 3:36:17 PM

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That one I may be able to help you with.... If you have DVArchive set to
it's defaults (And the replay will do this too) you can highlight the
show's name and it will give you the TV-Guide/Listings type blurb about
the show,,,, Including the time and station and what replay recorded it
if you have more than one.

Same on the replay, move the highlight bar to the show's title in the
"Replay Guide" and the information will be on your screen

I believe it's all in the XML file assoicated with the show.

Mark Lloyd wrote:

> Also, I find that I'm often watching a show and have no idea when it
> was broadcast, or even on what channel.

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 3:37:29 PM

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No, if the stuff is in the computer you take the computer along and
leave the Replay back home recording more shows (How I do it anyway)

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> If your stuff is in your computer, and you want to take your RTV with
> you....now you're stuck dragging your computer along as well.

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 5:14:14 PM

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:37:29 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>No, if the stuff is in the computer you take the computer along and
>leave the Replay back home recording more shows (How I do it anyway)
>

Or create DVDs and just take THEM.

Leaving the Replay home could allow it to be recording more shows.

>Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> If your stuff is in your computer, and you want to take your RTV with
>> you....now you're stuck dragging your computer along as well.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 5:15:40 PM

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:17 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>That one I may be able to help you with.... If you have DVArchive set to
> it's defaults (And the replay will do this too) you can highlight the
>show's name and it will give you the TV-Guide/Listings type blurb about
>the show,,,, Including the time and station and what replay recorded it
>if you have more than one.
>
>Same on the replay, move the highlight bar to the show's title in the
>"Replay Guide" and the information will be on your screen
>

You can. So, I'm saying there is often no need to do so.

>I believe it's all in the XML file assoicated with the show.
>

Yes.

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>> Also, I find that I'm often watching a show and have no idea when it
>> was broadcast, or even on what channel.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 5:18:55 PM

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:28 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>To answer your question "How Big" you must first do some research
>
>Step 1: Find out what drives work best with Replay (IE- Maxtor Quick
>View drives work well)
>
>Step 2a: Find out how much money you can afford,
>
>Step 2b: If in the US do the american thing and add 50% to the number in
>Step 2a
>
>Step 3: Go to computer store
>
>Step 4; Buy the biggest drive that you can't afford (See step 2b
>
>Ok, I'm jokin about step 2b)
>

While the Replay's drive interface can handle VERY large drives,
there's still going to be a limit to the Replay software (the OLDER
{<4000} units were limited to about 170 hours)..

It was probably not designed for REALLY large drives, and may fail in
a particularly undesirable way. I think it should always be good for
250GB or less.

>
>
>Rastamon wrote:
>> I have to agree. I usually out of town for weeks, sometimes months. I
>> usually don't have time to watch a show at the actual time it's on. Which
>> makes sense of having a large HD. The bigger the better, but how big?

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 4:23:24 AM

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Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
for each DVD (which holds 1-4 hours of video depending on the quality
and how much compression I have NERO add to the file)

Plus my laptop does not play DVDs well, MPEG's it can do (just) but
DVD's not always well Of course I do have a portable dedicated APEX DVD
spinner that works rather well (it's showing Dr. Who as I type)

Mark Lloyd wrote:

>
> Or create DVDs and just take THEM.
>
> Leaving the Replay home could allow it to be recording more shows.
>
--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 4:23:25 AM

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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:23:24 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
>for each DVD (which holds 1-4 hours of video depending on the quality
>and how much compression I have NERO add to the file)
>

The speed of DVD burning depends on the recorder. Some 16X units are
available. The speed of transcoding depends greatly of computer speed.
My newest system (P4 3GHz, 8--MHz FSB, 1GB RAM, 4x DVD) does a whole
disk (from MPEG-2 source) in about 45 minutes.

I get over 5 hours on a DVD.

>Plus my laptop does not play DVDs well, MPEG's it can do (just) but
>DVD's not always well Of course I do have a portable dedicated APEX DVD
>spinner that works rather well (it's showing Dr. Who as I type)
>
>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> Or create DVDs and just take THEM.
>>
>> Leaving the Replay home could allow it to be recording more shows.
>>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 4:23:25 AM

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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:23:24 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
>for each DVD (which holds 1-4 hours of video depending on the quality
>and how much compression I have NERO add to the file)
>
>Plus my laptop does not play DVDs well, MPEG's it can do (just) but
>DVD's not always well

If you're taking the computer anyway, looks like you don't need to
make DVDs. Just play the MPEG files on the computer.

> Of course I do have a portable dedicated APEX DVD
>spinner that works rather well (it's showing Dr. Who as I type)
>
>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> Or create DVDs and just take THEM.
>>
>> Leaving the Replay home could allow it to be recording more shows.
>>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 4:23:25 AM

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In article <0cY8e.1238$L03.1093@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
> for each DVD

ummmm....it takes no more than 10 minutes on my system. And that's
whether the RTV exported file is low or medium quality.

Exporting the file off my RTV is what takes a long time. But once I
have it, I run ReVue to clean up the MPG and then Nero burns it in no
time. Literally, it's just a few minutes from opening ReVue to taking a
ready to go DVD out of the burner.
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 4:26:56 AM

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Mark, you or someone was saying that you/they sometimes forget what
channel the show they were watching was recorded from or when

I was just pointing out that the information is there and how to
retrieve it. Much easier than with a VCR And yes, I do agree, there is
usually no need to do that, I mean. to be honest, I don't often care
less the show is a serial presentation and I want them in order

Mark Lloyd wrote:

>
> You can. So, I'm saying there is often no need to do so.
--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 11:19:41 AM

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Replay 3K HDs die because of HEAT. Fluid Bearing drives don't solve the
problem other than reducing operating noise levels. When a drive is
subjected to a temperatures above it's normal operating temperature. The
air space between the head and the disc decreases, thus increasing the risk
of contact and damage occurs. Under normal operating temperatures, the head
never touches the disc at all. Talk to anyone who does data recovery on
crashed drives and they will tell you the same thing.

Data access or PVR use has nothing to do with it. HDs are meant to read and
write data constantly. Here's a simple test. Take the temperature of a
drive in a 3000, with partially blocked vents, in it's little "easy bake"
case. Now remove the cover to the Replay and take the HD it out of it's
"easy bake" and let it hang outside of the enclosure still connected to the
system. Which HD will be hotter and above normal operating temperature in
the same amount of time?

Please don't try to intimidate me with your petty, "I have dozens of
upgraded 3K out there for 5 years or more surviving the "heat issue" quite
well", you're not welcomed. Because you haven't proven JACK.

I'm a Replay fan just like you, just not as fanatical. Maybe I don't follow
the corporate fertilizer that DNNA/D&M Holdings decides to put out to try
raise their stock prices. I just hope they don't turn the next Replay into
another high end over priced HDVR. Just because they may be the first to
market a HDVR, does not mean they will be the only one. Most likely it will
be made in China.

Being the first one out in the market is not always good, other than raising
your stock prices. ReplayTV was the first PVR, then came TiVo. The number
of households with TiVo is expected to increase from 5% to 41% in five
years. The number of 3Ks to become doorstops, is also expected to increase.

I used to attend CES quite frequently, but I spent most of the time at the
Adult-EX or in the casinos.


"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BM-dnXa0z6T1iv7fRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
> >There is in fact a heat problem, especially when there is not enough
> > ventilation to the 3000s. The drive is too close to the power supply.
Most
> > owners are un-aware of that, and wonder why their HDs are dying. We get
one
> > of those posts here at least once a month.
>
> The HD die mainly because the old drives can't take the pounding in
> PVRs. Replacing the drive with a fluid bearing drive mysteriously fixes
> the issue. I have dozens of upgraded 3K out there for 5 years or more
> surviving the "heat issue" quite well, thank you.
> >
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 11:27:51 AM

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"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
news:o bu761tg4l8713k6ehepqsnh64gikdmhc5@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:28 GMT, John in Detroit
> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> While the Replay's drive interface can handle VERY large drives,
> there's still going to be a limit to the Replay software (the OLDER
> {<4000} units were limited to about 170 hours)..
>

How were the 320 Hour units setup? Dual 160Gb drives?
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 2:35:27 PM

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:31:48 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <0cY8e.1238$L03.1093@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
> John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
>> for each DVD
>
>ummmm....it takes no more than 10 minutes on my system. And that's
>whether the RTV exported file is low or medium quality.
>
>Exporting the file off my RTV is what takes a long time. But once I
>have it, I run ReVue to clean up the MPG and then Nero burns it in no
>time. Literally, it's just a few minutes from opening ReVue to taking a
>ready to go DVD out of the burner.

Are you talking about a video DVD, or a DVD-ROM?

Most of the shows I record are copied to computer automatically (a
task in DVArchive) so I often don't know anything about the show being
on until the file shows up in my video directory. I created a category
called EXPORT on the Replay, set the shows I want to keep to use that
category, and put a task in DVA to copy everything from that category
to computer.

The transfer speed (which you set in DVA) is set to 1200. That works,
although I'd use 600 for a Replay I'm trying to use at the same time.
1200 is bad for control latency (for example: press 'pause' and wait
3-5 minutes for playback to stop).

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 2:37:13 PM

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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:26:56 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark, you or someone was saying that you/they sometimes forget what
>channel the show they were watching was recorded from or when
>

Quite often that happens. It can be embarrassing when someone asks you
what channel that;s on (DVRs are still not that well known).

>I was just pointing out that the information is there and how to
>retrieve it. Much easier than with a VCR And yes, I do agree, there is
>usually no need to do that, I mean. to be honest, I don't often care
>less the show is a serial presentation and I want them in order
>
>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> You can. So, I'm saying there is often no need to do so.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 2:39:28 PM

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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:27:51 -0700, "Rastamon"
<Rastamon@dakine.eh.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
>news:o bu761tg4l8713k6ehepqsnh64gikdmhc5@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:28 GMT, John in Detroit
>> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> While the Replay's drive interface can handle VERY large drives,
>> there's still going to be a limit to the Replay software (the OLDER
>> {<4000} units were limited to about 170 hours)..
>>
>
>How were the 320 Hour units setup? Dual 160Gb drives?
>

I don't have one of those (anyway, if you want 320 hrs it costs less
to buy a 40 hr unit and upgrade). The 320 hour Replay wasn't available
until recently, and you can get 320GB hard drives.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
April 20, 2005 3:58:30 AM

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I got my first Replay last year,

Now... What you type below is my point. Though RePlay as we know it has
been discontinued, they are coming out with a new product, a
replacement, with some different features.

I'm hoping they keep what makes RePlay great but only time will tell on
that one. But I'd say that like the Cavalier, which is not really dead,
it's just "Reborn" as the Cobalt, The Replay is not dead at all

Now the Olds Delta 88.... History

Rastamon wrote:

> I read DNNA's corporate masturbation report stating it stopped producing
> Replay units, and it's coming out with a new product. Replay technology
> inspired? hmm... In all sense, ReplayTV is dead, but will it be reborn? It
> may not be called a ReplayTV, probably something like REVO. LOL Will it
> have the same capabilities? I hope so. Will I buy it? Only if it's the best
> thing out there, but not right away. Other companies are concurrently
> developing HDVRs.


--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
Anonymous
April 20, 2005 1:36:35 PM

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Rastamon wrote:

> Replay 3K HDs die because of HEAT. Fluid Bearing drives don't solve the
> problem other than reducing operating noise levels.

Wrong, a simple search on Tom's hardware will show that FB versions of
the same drive run at lower temps.

> Data access or PVR use has nothing to do with it. HDs are meant to read and
> write data constantly. Here's a simple test. Take the temperature of a
> drive in a 3000, with partially blocked vents, in it's little "easy bake"
> case. Now remove the cover to the Replay and take the HD it out of it's
> "easy bake" and let it hang outside of the enclosure still connected to the
> system. Which HD will be hotter and above normal operating temperature in
> the same amount of time?
>
> Please don't try to intimidate me with your petty, "I have dozens of
> upgraded 3K out there for 5 years or more surviving the "heat issue" quite
> well", you're not welcomed. Because you haven't proven JACK.

That would be dozens of times the empirical support of "failed drives"
you read here "all the time". LOL

You remind me of the guys who go on various forums and parrot "You
shouldn't use 7200rpm drives in Replay -TOO HOT!!!","You shouldn't use
7200rpm drives in Replay -TOO HOT!!!" When you link them to mfg
datasheets which show many of these drives are cooler than the original
Maxtors, they continue to chant the mantra, which gives you a new
definition for stupidity.

So lets see, take a drive and hang it outside your computer and it runs
cooler?? Pure genius.

Quick! get your theories over to Maxtor right away. Their new Quickview
drives are designed for the heavier service demands of pvrs. You might
be able to save them a bundle.

>
> Being the first one out in the market is not always good, other than raising
> your stock prices. ReplayTV was the first PVR, then came TiVo.

Wrong again. Replay made the announcements, etc, but Tivo had the first
units on the street by 1-2 months.

> The number
> of households with TiVo is expected to increase from 5% to 41% in five
> years.

An absolutely ridiculous statement. 2/3 of all Tivo subscribers are
DirecTivo. Direct has not renewed the agreement and is obligated for
support only through 2006. They are sourcing their own PVR built in
England. Which is why the No 1 and No 2 guys at Tivo have fled the
company, why 2 Wall St services have classified them as "junk" status,
why nobody will build their HDTivo for them, and why they might not even
be around in 1 yr, let alone 4.
!