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February 5, 2010 10:59:45 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next month BUDGET RANGE: 700-1000 the cheaper though the better

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Music, Internet, Photoshop, and lastly FACEBOOK!)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, webcam, Video Cards, Case, )

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, I've had great experiences with them. COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Trustworthy and reliable, No huge brand loyalties on this one other than intel

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe I would like to toy with OC'n Have always been afraid of it. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes Have it on my current build and Love it

MONITOR RESOLUTION: (1920x1080, 1920x1200)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: biggest concern here is cost vs performance. I am not afraid to spend the money but I want to make sure I am reaping the benefit's in performance. Mostly used for gaming I.e. FPS's RPG, MMORPG


So first off I have a decent machine running right now and I want to tear some parts out of it and reuse them, Parts I will be most likely reusing are the velociraptor 300 gig harddrive and the two 8800gtx's that I have. I also have a antec 900 case new in box to use for this build. Now I have been doing some homework on the p55 versus the x58 and I'm having some problems reading the benchmarks. Bottom Line comes down to is it worth the money for the performance gain I get out of going to the x58? The two mobo's I am comparing right now are

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99
with this processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99

or this mobo and processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $284.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $288.99

This ram kit here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $254.99
This CD/DVD Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $24.99

Last question comes down to PSU: I have two picked out on newegg and a third option of a 1000w rocketfish Modular New in box from a friend for $100
Or either of these Im leaning towards the 850 just for power/updgrades down the road but the rocketfish is a good deal boasts 900watt continuous
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $149.99


Apreciate any information or advice you guys have on it! look forward to hearing back!
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February 5, 2010 11:20:44 PM

As for the 1366 vs 1156 question....

a) 1366 allows upgrade to hexacore processors .... figure megabucks for next few months and 920 prices two years from now.
b) 1366 has support for high-bandwidth devices such as professional RAID controllers ... interesting for multiple SSD's and SAS SATA II drives
c) 1366 supports triple-channel memory that will probably only noticeably benefit hexacore processors when they arrive
d) Unless you have the special NF200 chip or a comparable variant on board can't have twin PCI-E x16 lanes.

In short, if you are like me and likely to do a CPU / GFX upgrade after 2 years, then go 1366. If you gonna keep the component and stand pat till the machine gets tossed, go 1156.

RAM - three items here:

a) 8 Gb will be harder to OC and maintain lower timings than 4 GB
b) 1366 requires 3 x 2GB
c) 4 GB modules have arrived ....can do 2 x 2 Gb in 1156 and 3 x 2GB in 1366

PSU...the 750 may be a bit weak for future SLI / XFire combos. If ya want the baddest and the best, the Antec SG-850 rules the roost. The CP-850 is the best buy but that don't fit in your 902, would require the 1200, P183 or P193. If the SG is a budget breaker, the HX850 isn't far behind. Though if you are not going to do any serious overclocks, the Antec Earthwatts, TP / TPX series (in the higher wattages) and Corsair TX series will serve well. Also look at Seasonic M12D 850W.

Check each one out here (hit "reviews" radio button and type in make / model number:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=Search
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February 5, 2010 11:29:26 PM

I'd go with the i5, since you probably won't see any performance gain from getting an i7.

I'm not very familiar with comparing the P55 and the x58, but I can say that the P55 supports dual-channel while the x58 supports tri-channel, so make sure you double check that the RAM lines up with the motherboard that you choose. The P55 also looks more practical that the x58, so if I had to choose, it would be the P55.

For the PSU, I would go with the 850W, unless your not concerned about your power bill.
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February 6, 2010 12:39:04 AM

If you want to keep it 'cheaper the better', then the i5 750 route is probably going to end up being the best option, unless you are attached like a mollusk is to a rock, to that 8GB of RAM, which is overkill for everything in your system usage except maybe photoshop. In which case it would probably end up being cheaper to get 6GB (3x2GB) of RAM and go Bloomfield. So I would say that it is not worth the price difference, especially if you aren't interested in any of the things Jack mentioned.
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February 6, 2010 3:24:02 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
As for the 1366 vs 1156 question....

a) 1366 allows upgrade to hexacore processors .... figure megabucks for next few months and 920 prices two years from now.
b) 1366 has support for high-bandwidth devices such as professional RAID controllers ... interesting for multiple SSD's and SAS SATA II drives
c) 1366 supports triple-channel memory that will probably only noticeably benefit hexacore processors when they arrive
d) Unless you have the special NF200 chip or a comparable variant on board can't have twin PCI-E x16 lanes.

In short, if you are like me and likely to do a CPU / GFX upgrade after 2 years, then go 1366. If you gonna keep the component and stand pat till the machine gets tossed, go 1156.

RAM - three items here:

a) 8 Gb will be harder to OC and maintain lower timings than 4 GB
b) 1366 requires 3 x 2GB
c) 4 GB modules have arrived ....can do 2 x 2 Gb in 1156 and 3 x 2GB in 1366

PSU...the 750 may be a bit weak for future SLI / XFire combos. If ya want the baddest and the best, the Antec SG-850 rules the roost. The CP-850 is the best buy but that don't fit in your 902, would require the 1200, P183 or P193. If the SG is a budget breaker, the HX850 isn't far behind. Though if you are not going to do any serious overclocks, the Antec Earthwatts, TP / TPX series (in the higher wattages) and Corsair TX series will serve well. Also look at Seasonic M12D 850W.

Check each one out here (hit "reviews" radio button and type in make / model number:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=Search



Thanks alot Jack, That website is pretty stellar! I think I am going to stick with the hx850 as a PSU, cable management with the modular is going to be a big deal for me on this build since the antec 900 I have right now I feel like its just a big CF and the cost and reviews seem right on the hx850. If I were, to go with the 1366 do you think that mobo/cpu combo is a good way to go? and also as far as the ram is concerned can you point me in the right direction in finding a right match for the 1366 maybe a newegg link or an article your familiar with?
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