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[Solved] AHH!! amd/ati mainstream market is hell to choose from!!!

Forum Graphics & Displays : AMD Radeon [Solved] AHH!! amd/ati mainstream market is hell to choose from!!!

OK! For the past few weeks, I've been in the market for a solid mainstream card that I can crossfire later on down the road, but everything between 90-115 dollars has me stooped...

For a nice and low $99 pricepoint, I can get a DX11 card (sure, it too weak on it's own to use DX11 but maybe CF can change that)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150466

For that SAME price range, I can get the much suppierior 4850, but that means I won't have DX11, and the 4850 is leaving the market faster than I like. So that may leave crossfire unavailable..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102824

OR, the mainstream champian that has been getting better availablity lately, the 4770. I really like this card but as it doesn't have DX11 and is going the way of the dinosaur.. It has me a little worried.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150369

Please give me your thoughts everyone, my wallet is in your hands

Reply to rambo117

Tough one yes. If you can stretch to the 5750 that would be great, I dunno how much more they cost though.

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Reply to jennyh

Thats the card I had my eye on but coming by money is pretty difficult until I have my job this summer.. I really want a new card so I can play Bioshock 2, Stalker Call of Pripyat, and Star Trek Online... But with my budget of $115... Things are looking grim without a discrete card...

Reply to rambo117

I don't know the prices over there but where I am you can still find deals for 4870's for just under 100 dollars, the availability of the 4xxx series is shrinking fast though.

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Reply to gomi

gomi wrote :

I don't know the prices over there but where I am you can still find deals for 4870's for just under 100 dollars, the availability of the 4xxx series is shrinking fast though.

I live in the US, and the 4870 prices have skyrocketed to $160^... If the price WERE that low, I'd jump at that in a heartbeat.

Any other suggestions people..?

Reply to rambo117

It must be hard for u...
well, won't u use any used card?
Don't buy an old tech, they will become rare and difficult to get if u on a plan to CF later.

Reply to wa1

thanks for your great help wa1 *AHEM*
I NEED SUGGESTIONS!! Not observations of my crappy budget/position please.

Reply to rambo117

what you need to do is wait.
Just save money as much as you can. Those cards will get outdated soon since they're old anyways. Then get the 5770 and crossfire it.
you just need to hang on m8.

Reply to Ehsan w

Guhh.. Was hoping someone wouldn't say that..
must....have... Bioshock 2...

Reply to rambo117

If you want a card now, then buy the HD 4850. Yeah sure, it doesn't have DX11, but for DX9/10 it has good performance.

If you can wait for price drops, then wait. If you can't, then pull the trigger and just be done with it.

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jaguarskx wrote :

Versus my old 3870 crossfire solution, how well do you think the 4850 will do in say Bioshock 2, Stalker COP, and dare I say Crysis 2

My pointer is right on the "add to cart" button..

Reply to rambo117

Your XFired HD 3870 will give you a little better performance. There is no reason to upgrade given your limited budget.

I would guess what you have now is about equal to the HD 5770. Therefore, in order to get better performance (even for DX9/10) you will need to have HD 5770 XFired or a single HD 5850.

Save up more money.

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jaguarskx wrote :

LOL, hardly m8.

I just compared my 3870s to a single 4850, and most of the time the 4850 comes out strong. If A single 4850 can beat my xfired 3870s, things are pretty ugly.
I have one other possible solution to my dilemma.. On christmas, I got the Zune HD that I was absolutely DYING for, and those go around $220 brand new... I was thinking of *sniffle* selling it for extra cash to get me a kickass graphics card...

BUT, I loovvee my Zune HD.. So im not sure...

What do you guys think?

Reply to rambo117

Or wait for GF100 to be released which may result in ATi cards dropping to the price that some feel they should be at.

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Reply to Mousemonkey

Mousemonkey wrote :

Or wait for GF100 to be released which may result in ATi cards dropping to the price that some feel they should be at.

yes, but im a very impatient person... And May is just too far away. Most the games that are coming out are 2 weeks from release...

Reply to rambo117

Look at the benchmarks between the HD 4850 and HD 3870X2 (basically two HD 3870 XFired):

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] html#sect0

The only games that the HD 4850 smacked the HD 3870x2 silly were:

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (uses same engine as Quake)
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
Tomb Raider: Legend
Hellgate: London

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jaguarskx wrote :

Well, even though the 3870x2 holds its own, the performance is very comparable. And thats one GPU versus two.
And by summer, I plan to crossfire, so singular card performance will not be for that long.. GUH!! This sucks...
Thanks for the link though..

I think im going to sell my Zune HD 16gb for $170... With that much, I can buy something nice... Summer, I can rebuy my zune back. So, with close to $290, what are my options?

Reply to rambo117

jaguarskx wrote :

Jaguarskx is right.

Toms benchmarks say the same, for 115 USD you will have a hard time finding a card that is worth the upgrade.
I'd recommend you to save up some more cash before upgrading.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] .html?prod[3285]=on&prod[3271]=on

Reply to cobot

Ya, I don't think that the 4850 is much of an option anymore.. Just listed my Zune HD on craisglist so I hope i'll get a buy soon..

So, with all my cash added up, what can I get with $280?
There are still 4850x2's available... Not sure thats such a good investment anymore though..

I was thinking of just getting a single 5770, and crossfire it this summer.

Anybody have other suggestions? Feels good to have a larger price margin...

Reply to rambo117

5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

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Reply to sabot00

sabot00 wrote :

5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Hot dam! We were just talking about 4850s earlier...

Anyways... Powercolor has a bad rep at making poor quality parts.. Any word on that? otherwise, as soon as I sell my zune hd, thats the card im going to jump on.\
Thankyou for your help everyone, much appreciated

Reply to rambo117

Don't worry about AIB's (Powercolor made the 5970 LCS). Newegg will cover you with 30-day replacement.

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Reply to sabot00

sabot00 wrote :

Don't worry about AIB's (Powercolor made the 5970 LCS). Newegg will cover you with 30-day replacement.

Ya, but with my luck, it will stop working in 31 days

Sounds like this is the card that im going with. From a performance standpoint, will this card be able to handle DX11 in Stalker COP...? If not, its fine, thats what crossfire is for

Reply to rambo117

Best answer

A 5850 has plenty of muscle, should be able to play DX11 on any game (it's like a 8800GTX when DX10 came out).
Powercolor is fine, don't fret it, as a plus 5850's OC like god.

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Reply to sabot00

sabot00 wrote :

A 5850 has plenty of muscle, should be able to play DX11 on any game (it's like a 8800GTX when DX10 came out).
Powercolor is fine, don't fret it, as a plus 5850's OC like god.

Glad to hear it

You've all been helpful, a million thanks!!!

p.s. if any of you are interested in a mint zune HD 16GB, let me know

Reply to rambo117

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Reply to rambo117

Once you sell the ZUNE check the prices at newegg - the sales for the various manufacturers change often and at that point there may be one that has a better prince made by another maker if you do not like powercolor !

For Example they had the HIS version for $269 with free shipping a few days ago but are out of stock now ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161302 )

Message edited by JDFan on 01-31-2010 at 09:26:06 PM

Reply to JDFan

Good to know I've helped someone, feel free to stick around at Tom's.

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