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February 7, 2010 4:49:13 AM

I'm trying to fing a gaming rig that is futur proof (DX11) , i got several rigs but this is my best one. I need your help in this :

-good for gaming (ex:cod mw2) ?
-Are components compatible ? (pretty sure they are)
- can i find better/same for cheaper?
- good rig ? in general.
-did i forget something ?

Build:
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... =cm_re=Gaming_Case-_-11-147-153-_-Product = 60$

Mobo : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = 105$

CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168... = 85$

Video Card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = 165$

Optical Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = 35$

Ram:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... =115$

PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = 80$

HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = 90$

Total w/ Shipping : 735 $ Pretty Good
IF this isn't good for gaming what is this good for? i need 2 PC but one is Optional

USing for? : Gaming
OS : Win XP Pro 32-bit (i dont need more than 3.5Gb ram)
Crossfire: Maybe
SlI : I have no idea what this is, help?
Budget : 500~1000$ CAD

WARNING : May contain noob questions.

February 7, 2010 5:48:53 AM

Before I can answer other parts questions, you have a compatability issue in there. You have an intel based mobo with an AMD CPU. Do you have a preference for one vs the other? And if you're into the future proofing, I'd get a mobo that supports USB 3.0 now. Cost about $15 more for the mobo than one with just 2.0. Aside from that, the build you have is good.

What is this about a second PC?

Also, if you are one of my friends to the north, then use newegg.ca so we can get appropriate prices/combos/inventories.
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February 7, 2010 2:51:56 PM

Thank you , missed that ... on the search again. Nvm about the second pc . Eh newegg.ca... how the hell did i miss that ?

I don't have preference when it comes to AMD and Intel as long as it's good for gaming and is compatible.

Thx once again.
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February 7, 2010 3:05:27 PM

Here's the new Mobo , costs more but is worth it :

GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4 AM3 AMD 790X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

and sli : no , im with ATI video cards until nvidia releases a good directX11 video card
A review: (pretty sure it's his problem)

Pros: excellent running board, no bios issues and posted on the first shot.
appears to run my vid card quieter than my last two asus boards.
phoenix bios on this board performs much better and posts faster than ami bios on similar chipsets.

driver installation is a breeze, nice add on software package on the driver cd.
tons of options in the bios for oc'ing.


high quality board
good price
good performance
Cons: front panel audio header is too far away from the right side of the board for the antec 900-2.

bios seems to think for a second when detecting my kingston ddr3-1333, maybe its the way this board is made or maybe its the ram, I'll find out when i get some other ram but not an issue to deduct an egg
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February 7, 2010 3:19:39 PM

I'm gonna stick with newegg.com , they have lower prices and free shipping.

example:

.ca =AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


.com =AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

should i really use a usb3.0 mobo , since i'm sure that ther will be adapters usb2 to usb3 this will save me 50$
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February 7, 2010 4:05:34 PM

2 things.

1. Go for a x3 720 BE over what you have now.

2. Go for a diffrent video card. Im a huge ATI fanboy, but even i can admit that any 5xxx seris cards under the 5850 are trash.
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February 7, 2010 4:20:56 PM

ati radeon hd 5850 cost much... i dont need extreme gaming , im okay at palying games at lowest settings at a 1152 x 864 resolution

any other video card suggetions?
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February 7, 2010 4:23:39 PM

builderbobftw said:
2 things.

1. Go for a x3 720 BE over what you have now.

2. Go for a diffrent video card. Im a huge ATI fanboy, but even i can admit that any 5xxx seris cards under the 5850 are trash.


wrong. the 5770 is a great card and a worthy upgrade from the 5750 that OP picked. here's tomshardware.com's list of best cards for the money jan 2010, where the 5770 wins in its price range. it's easy to poke around and find lots of benchmarks from lots of different reviewers, although as tom's says in the summary it's more about "longevity/value" with this card. performance amongst the cards in this price range is very similar, but the ati 5xxx series supports dx11.

@OP: when you're listing your system and looking for comments, avoid listening to people who say "that ____ you picked out is crap" and don't offer a reason, an alternative, or links to benchmarks or other evidence. like the comment i quoted, for example.

if you decide to go with the 5770 (which you should!) i would suggest that you find one of the cards with a fan sheath that blows the hot air out the back of your case instead of just blowing into the interior. like this xfx.
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February 7, 2010 4:28:56 PM

whatelsematters said:
wrong. the 5770 is a great card and a worthy upgrade from the 5750 that OP picked. here's tomshardware.com's list of best cards for the money jan 2010, where the 5770 wins in its price range. it's easy to poke around and find lots of benchmarks from lots of different reviewers, although as tom's says in the summary it's more about "longevity/value" with this card. performance amongst the cards in this price range is very similar, but the ati 5xxx series supports dx11.

@OP: when you're listing your system and looking for comments, avoid listening to people who say "that ____ you picked out is crap" and don't offer a reason, an alternative, or links to benchmarks or other evidence. like the comment i quoted, for example.

if you decide to go with the 5770 (which you should!) i would suggest that you find one of the cards with a fan sheath that blows the hot air out the back of your case instead of just blowing into the interior. like this xfx.


Thank you very much but should i choose x3 720BE over the X2 545 ? I just need Simplistic gaming over high end games ( i think you understand)

And the 5770 looks nice but once again should i choose the 5750 for my simplistic gaming needs?
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February 7, 2010 4:38:28 PM

Gloryeagle said:
Thank you very much but should i choose x3 720BE over the X2 545 ? I just need Simplistic gaming over high end games ( i think you understand)

And the 5770 looks nice but once again should i choose the 5750 for my simplistic gaming needs?


i won't speak to the cpu because i don't really know anything about amd chips...

but as far as the video cards go, i would definitely go for the 5770. for $10 more you get a considerable performance increase. here's a review with benchmarks of a head to head comparison of the 5750 and the 5770. notice the farcry 2 fps at lower res and the 3dmark numbers, it's fairly significant, nearly 10 fps better from the 5770.
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February 7, 2010 4:57:47 PM
February 7, 2010 5:31:23 PM

Gloryeagle said:
ati radeon hd 5850 cost much... i dont need extreme gaming , im okay at palying games at lowest settings at a 1152 x 864 resolution

any other video card suggetions?



4850/4870 1gb/4890 based on price range
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February 7, 2010 6:14:08 PM

builderbobftw said:
4850/4870 1gb/4890 based on price range


Thx for your help but i'm asking for futur-proof video cards and non of those support directX11
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February 7, 2010 8:38:56 PM

I love how people answer questions without the relevant info needed to make an informed decision. Lets start by getting a little more info from you so we can offer the best advise.

What is your budget? Are you looking for the most PC for a given dollar amount or the least you can spend for a performance level.

What is your max monitor resolution? That will direct the GPU more than anything. No point in spending a load on a 5770 if you only have a 1280x1024 monitor.

While a dual core CPU is fine, if you're trying to get some extra life out of this system, a good tri core will be a worthwhile investment. You don't have to go shooting for the 720 BE, that Athlon II x3 or 4s are great values too. (I'll provide links once we have some structure to building a balanced system properly.)

How soon are you planning to start this?
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February 8, 2010 12:04:09 AM

Current Dx 11 cards under 5850=trash.
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February 8, 2010 1:48:51 AM

The 5770 will do okay at 1920x1080, but its not trash. (lower than the 4870, but better than the 4850)
The 5750 will do well at 1680x1050 and is not trash. (on par with the 4850)
The 5670 will do okay at 1280x1024 or lower but is not trash. (on par with the 4670)

These cards serve a purpose and might not max all games at those resolutions, but I wouldn't throw anything under a $300 price tag into the trash. They will look even better when Fermi comes out and the DX11 price wars start.
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February 9, 2010 5:48:15 PM

5770 is not good at Crysis or any modern game at 19x12, with 24x( Edge Detect in CCC) AA and Settings maxed out.
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