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February 7, 2010 7:00:39 PM

Hey all,

I'm looking to build a new machine as my current Mac Mini isn't really cutting it. I'm looking for suggestions on changing my build. The only snag is, I need to keep it at the same price it is at or cheaper. I don't plan for this to be a gaming machine, but I do plan on doing a minuscule amount of video editing from time to time. For the most part though, this machine will just be my production machine that will serve my everyday needs.

Here are the links to the items I'm currently looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Eventually I will be adding a video card, and 4 more gigs of RAM. However, those will be incremental upgrades. Please pass on any suggestions you may have. I definitely want to stick with Intel, and the price must stay the same or below $370.93.

Thanks in advance!
February 7, 2010 7:15:25 PM

Honestly with sticking to intel on uch a low budget build, your really gimping your processor imo. for the same price you could get a comparable quadcore from AMD.

Though not sure about that PSU lol.

Everything else looks fine, but for 10 bucks more you could get a spinpoint 500gb f3 which is better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 7, 2010 7:18:50 PM

I would recommend an increase in your budget to improve it more. I would spend an extra $10 for the Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB. The hard drive has more capacity and much faster!

I would take a second look at your PSU. It is not the best of brands and you don't want to put your system at risk. Also, the on 15 Amps on the 12V rail, it won't power really any "good" GPU at that rate. I would recommend you try and pickup a Corsair, Antec, SeaSonic or OCZ PSU, as they are more reliable power supply manufacturer's.
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February 7, 2010 7:26:23 PM

I suppose I could spare a few more dollars for a different PSU and a better HDD. Thanks for the recommendations! If you could recommend a PSU around that same price, which would you recommend?

Thanks!

Coheed
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February 7, 2010 7:29:51 PM

Coheed said:
I suppose I could spare a few more dollars for a different PSU and a better HDD. Thanks for the recommendations! If you could recommend a PSU around that same price, which would you recommend?

Thanks!

Coheed


Im not sure there is any at that same price that could really be recommended. I think the cheapest is around 50 dollars that is actually decent. But honestly getting a good PSU is worth the money. you dont want to buy that 30 dollar PSU to find out it doesnt have enough juice, and fry your whole PC and kill everything when it goes out. Spending the extra on a PSU is like getting the extra long warranty on a car. Its just a good idea to if you can afford it, cus it will save you money in the process.

Also a good PSU is more efficient, which means less power used which will save on power bills monthly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This would be optimal IMO.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Almost the same price, but not sure how good it is.
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February 7, 2010 7:39:55 PM

Heh, didn't see that you posted the same PSU. A quick Google query returns some good results with it, I think I'll go for that.
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February 7, 2010 7:45:24 PM

Um, if you haven't considered this, selling your Mac Mini should at least double your budget.
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February 7, 2010 8:01:55 PM

All the power supplies I see listed here are POS. Don't buy recert's. For an upgrade path you'll need 40-50 amps. Stop looking at the watts. Look harder for a case. You're sure to find one with FREE shipping that will be to your liking. The shipping is a killer on these things.
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February 7, 2010 8:17:32 PM

And Cambria, get a different case, like swifty suggested. The shipping on the case you listed is as much as the case, actually costing you $40 total. Wouldn't it be better for you to buy a $40 case with free shipping? I realize that you want to minimize costs, but you're overlooking better cases that will ultimately cost you less.
Try one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Also, you might want to look at a mobo with USB 3.0, for "future-proofing", as it will become mainstream in the next few years. SATA III is also available on H55, but those boards are rather expensive ATM. If you decide on a Micro ATX case like the Apex in that link, don't forget to get a Micro ATX board to go with it. There aren't many good, full-size H55 mobos out yet anyway.

I would go for this:
GIGABYTE GA-H55M-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$109.99

Only ten bucks more than the one you listed.

Go with the 500GB Spinpoint F3 that was suggested earlier, but take swifty's comment about the PSUs with a grain of salt. You won't see 40-50 amps on a 12V rail until you hit PSUs costing upwards of $80, where you shouldn't be looking personally. That recert. OCZ will be fine.
Lastly, don't discount the option of going AMD. Truhls has a good point; AMD is great for low-budget builds. An Athlon II X4 630 / 785g mobo combo would both cost less and perform at least on par with the i3-530 / H55 combo. The 4 physical cores will help with your editing and production needs.
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February 7, 2010 8:37:37 PM

As I see it, Intel will provide for a better upgrade path in the future. I see Intel emerging as the top-dog for the next few years, which will be beneficial for this build. Here is what I've updated my wishlist to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Recertified: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS-B 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Rosewill R220-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - GIGABYTE GA-H55M-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3/2GR - Retail


If you have any further suggestions, absolutely feel free to enlighten me.

I appreciate everyone's help :) 

Coheed
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February 7, 2010 9:11:34 PM

Coheed said:
As I see it, Intel will provide for a better upgrade path in the future. I see Intel emerging as the top-dog for the next few years, which will be beneficial for this build. Here is what I've updated my wishlist to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Recertified: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS-B 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Rosewill R220-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - GIGABYTE GA-H55M-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3/2GR - Retail


If you have any further suggestions, absolutely feel free to enlighten me.

I appreciate everyone's help :) 

Coheed



This is a great build for the money and it will serve you well, especially with that future RAM upgrade you mentioned. Intel probably will be the top-dog for the next few years; I can't argue that. I am not partial to AMD, I own 1 AMD system and 3 Intel. Nonetheless, I have to disagree with your comment on Intel's better upgrade path. Intel is known for getting a new socket every few years, which is why we have LGA 775, 1156, and 1366. You can argue that LGA 775 is dead, but it's still selling on Newegg. AMD's sockets on the other hand, have lifespans nearly twice as long. For example, the AM3 socket will ultimately see dual-, tri-, quad-, and hexa-core CPUs. Both LGA 775 and 1156 will only ever see duals and quads. LGA 1366 will probably only see quads and hexas. The next socket after 1366 probably will not see octa-core CPUs, while AM4 or AM3+ probably will. This is only due to the fast-paced life-cycles of Intel CPUs.
I don't say any of this to discourage your choices for this build; I only say this so that you have a better picture of the situation in the CPU industry today.
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February 7, 2010 9:12:04 PM

If you are planning to upgrade this PC after 2 years chances are they wont be making anything for the LGA 1156 socket anymore, making your MOBO and CPU non upgradeable. Intels roadmap has the LGA 1156 planned for what was it, a year?

Intel might have the market share but that doesnt really mean they are top dog. Price for performance wise, AMD is top dog, and probably always will be compared to intel. With intel you are really wasting money in paying for a name, especially for menial tasks such as you plan to use your PC for.
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February 7, 2010 9:13:49 PM

Truhls said:
If you are planning to upgrade this PC after 2 years chances are they wont be making anything for the LGA 1156 socket anymore, making your MOBO and CPU non upgradeable. Intels roadmap has the LGA 1156 planned for what was it, a year?

Intel might have the market share but that doesnt really mean they are top dog. Price for performance wise, AMD is top dog, and probably always will be compared to intel. With intel you are really wasting money in paying for a name, especially for menial tasks such as you plan to use your PC for.


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February 8, 2010 12:56:16 AM

Thanks everyone for the recommendations! :bounce: 
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February 8, 2010 3:42:12 PM

No problem (:
Let us know how it goes.
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February 17, 2010 3:04:47 AM

Hey all!

I just got the build done about 6 hours ago. So far it's going great. I've overclocked the i3 to 3.52GHz with stock cooler. Stable at 29-32 degrees. I'm looking into an upgrade soon as I got a little bit of money. So I'm thinking: another 2GBs of RAM, or a video card? I'm looking into the 9800GT 1GB card. Either that or a Coolermaster V8. Thoughts? :D 
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February 17, 2010 5:57:23 AM

Another 2GBs of RAM should be the first upgrade IMO, because 2GB may bottleneck your system when you're video editing. Then the 9800GT, then a HSF. I don't think the V8 is compatible with your mobo though, and it probably won't fit in your case either. Even though I'm not sure why you'd want to overclock a non-gaming system beyond 3.5GHz, here are all the LGA 1156 compatible HSFs I could find on Newegg that might be worth looking at. Of them, I would only look at the Prolimatech Megahalems and the MassCool, because those are the only ones that come with a backplate and don't use those unbelievably frustrating push-pins. But I'm pretty sure the Megahalems won't fit in your case, so the MassCool looks like the best option, despite its lack of reviews.
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February 18, 2010 2:37:55 AM

I just bought another 2GBs of RAM. Thank you much for the recommendation!
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February 18, 2010 2:38:11 AM

Best answer selected by Coheed.
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February 19, 2010 3:10:40 AM

should easily fit.
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