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Anonymous
May 23, 2004 7:40:46 PM

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I get this message when trying to run Thief I under WinXP with an NVIDIA
FX5900 Board.

Any workarounds?
May 23, 2004 7:49:06 PM

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"busk" <gibberish@secret.com> wrote in message
news:40b0a9df$0$261$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
> I get this message when trying to run Thief I under WinXP with an NVIDIA
> FX5900 Board.
>
> Any workarounds?
>
>

Check here for information on how to fix this:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7...

Nightwalker

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Anonymous
May 24, 2004 3:16:38 AM

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> "busk" <gibberish@secret.com> wrote in message
> news:40b0a9df$0$261$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
> > I get this message when trying to run Thief I under WinXP with an NVIDIA
> > FX5900 Board.
> >
> > Any workarounds?
> >
> >
>
> Check here for information on how to fix this:
> http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7...
>
> Nightwalker

I have the same problem. As soon as a level is loaded I end up with a black
screen. When I return to XP I get the same error message.

My system:

Pentium 3.0 GHz HT
Geforce FX 5700 (Nvidia driver 53.03)
1024 MB RAM
Windows XP Home

I tried the following workarounds:

- Deactivate HT in BIOS
- Upgrade to latest Nvidia Driver
- Deactivate AGP surface acceleration
- remove semicolon in line ;safe_texture_manager in user.cfg

I do not no how to solve this problem. Any ideas ? The only thing that comes
to my mind is a downgrade of my nvidia driver to some old version, ín order
to play thief again. On my old system (Pentium 500 MHz, TNT2) I had no
problems. Now, when I want to finish thief2 before thief3 is published
nothing is working...............
May 24, 2004 3:16:39 AM

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"Michael Liesert" <liemic4@web.de> wrote in message
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>
> > "busk" <gibberish@secret.com> wrote in message
> > news:40b0a9df$0$261$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
> > > I get this message when trying to run Thief I under WinXP with an
NVIDIA
> > > FX5900 Board.
> > >
> > > Any workarounds?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Check here for information on how to fix this:
> >
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7...
> >
> > Nightwalker
>
> I have the same problem. As soon as a level is loaded I end up with a
black
> screen. When I return to XP I get the same error message.
>
> My system:
>
> Pentium 3.0 GHz HT
> Geforce FX 5700 (Nvidia driver 53.03)
> 1024 MB RAM
> Windows XP Home
>
> I tried the following workarounds:
>
> - Deactivate HT in BIOS
> - Upgrade to latest Nvidia Driver
> - Deactivate AGP surface acceleration
> - remove semicolon in line ;safe_texture_manager in user.cfg
>
> I do not no how to solve this problem. Any ideas ? The only thing that
comes
> to my mind is a downgrade of my nvidia driver to some old version, ín
order
> to play thief again. On my old system (Pentium 500 MHz, TNT2) I had no
> problems. Now, when I want to finish thief2 before thief3 is published
> nothing is working...............
>
>

I am currently using the NVidia 52.16 drivers and they work beautifully with
Thief. Maybe you could try dropping back to those and see if it corrects
your problem?

Nightwalker

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Anonymous
May 24, 2004 3:16:39 AM

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Michael Liesert wrote:
>> "busk" <gibberish@secret.com> wrote in message
>> news:40b0a9df$0$261$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
>>> I get this message when trying to run Thief I under WinXP with an
>>> NVIDIA FX5900 Board.
>>>
>>> Any workarounds?
>>
>> Check here for information on how to fix this:
>> http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7...
>>
>> Nightwalker
>
> I have the same problem. As soon as a level is loaded I end up with a
> black screen. When I return to XP I get the same error message.
>
> My system:
>
> Pentium 3.0 GHz HT
> Geforce FX 5700 (Nvidia driver 53.03)
> 1024 MB RAM
> Windows XP Home
>
> I tried the following workarounds:
>
> - Deactivate HT in BIOS
> - Upgrade to latest Nvidia Driver
> - Deactivate AGP surface acceleration
> - remove semicolon in line ;safe_texture_manager in user.cfg
>
> I do not no how to solve this problem. Any ideas ? The only thing
> that comes to my mind is a downgrade of my nvidia driver to some old
> version, ín order to play thief again. On my old system (Pentium 500
> MHz, TNT2) I had no problems. Now, when I want to finish thief2
> before thief3 is published nothing is working...............

I *think* you need to have the 'safe_texture_manager' line in 'cam.cfg'.
Try that if you haven't already.

-craig
Anonymous
May 24, 2004 9:15:10 AM

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Craig Hulett wrote:

>
>
> I *think* you need to have the 'safe_texture_manager' line in 'cam.cfg'.
> Try that if you haven't already.
>

I'm not 100% sure, but I've always believed that all .cfg files are
handled identically, as if they were all combined into one file, then
processed. So it wouldn't matter at all where you put it.

-Kevin
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Anonymous
May 25, 2004 2:54:41 AM

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"Kevin Goodsell" <usenet2.spamfree.fusion@neverbox.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:yxfsc.8088$be.3919@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Craig Hulett wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I *think* you need to have the 'safe_texture_manager' line in 'cam.cfg'.
> > Try that if you haven't already.
> >
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but I've always believed that all .cfg files are
> handled identically, as if they were all combined into one file, then
> processed. So it wouldn't matter at all where you put it.
>
> -Kevin
> --
> My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
> To contact me please use the address from a recent posting.

It seems that you are right. Adding the save_texture_manager to cam.cfg did
not show any effect. The screen is black as before......................
I am not sure if I want to drop my nvidia driver back to the 52.xx series.
Thief2 is not the only game on my PC. Actually I bought a new system in
order to have better graphics. Downgrade of the detonator drivers might be
not the best thing for other games (Deus Ex2 i.e.). I could also downgrade
directx to some 8.x Version, but this would surely keep me from playing
other actual games...................... Is thief2 worthy enough to abandon
current games?

......but thanks a lot for your help. I think I will have to wait for thief3.
Meanwhile I will focus on Deus Ex2..........................................

Michael
Anonymous
May 25, 2004 2:54:42 AM

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Michael Liesert wrote:
> "Kevin Goodsell" <usenet2.spamfree.fusion@neverbox.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag
> news:yxfsc.8088$be.3919@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Craig Hulett wrote:
>>>
>>> I *think* you need to have the 'safe_texture_manager' line in
>>> 'cam.cfg'. Try that if you haven't already.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not 100% sure, but I've always believed that all .cfg files are
>> handled identically, as if they were all combined into one file, then
>> processed. So it wouldn't matter at all where you put it.
>>
>> -Kevin
>> --
>> My email address is valid, but changes periodically.
>> To contact me please use the address from a recent posting.
>
> It seems that you are right. Adding the save_texture_manager to
> cam.cfg did not show any effect. The screen is black as
> before......................
> I am not sure if I want to drop my nvidia driver back to the 52.xx
> series. Thief2 is not the only game on my PC. Actually I bought a new
> system in order to have better graphics. Downgrade of the detonator
> drivers might be not the best thing for other games (Deus Ex2 i.e.).
> I could also downgrade directx to some 8.x Version, but this would
> surely keep me from playing other actual games......................
> Is thief2 worthy enough to abandon current games?
>
> .....but thanks a lot for your help. I think I will have to wait for
> thief3. Meanwhile I will focus on Deus
> Ex2..........................................
>
I'm currently running XP Home with the 56.72 drivers on a Ti4600 and adding
'safe_texture_manager' worked for me in Thief2 but not Thief Gold... you did
try 'safe_' and not 'save_' like you wrote, yes? Then there is the issue of
the videos not playing but that is a known Indeo codec issue with a simple
workaround.

DirectX 9 isn't the problem, it seems to be the Forceware drivers. I don't
see a problem with 'downgrading' to the 52.xx series as it's not that big a
step back down the timeline, if that works for you. Simple enough to try and
see.

-craig
Anonymous
May 26, 2004 1:40:00 AM

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>
> DirectX 9 isn't the problem, it seems to be the Forceware drivers. I
don't
> see a problem with 'downgrading' to the 52.xx series as it's not that big
a
> step back down the timeline, if that works for you. Simple enough to try
and
> see.
>
> -craig
>
>

I think you're right. I will give it a try..................
Maybe there are some features added from 52.xx to 53.xx and maybe I can
deactivate them....................
Anonymous
May 30, 2004 3:46:03 PM

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"Michael Liesert" <liemic4@web.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:2hhm17Fbt5knU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > DirectX 9 isn't the problem, it seems to be the Forceware drivers. I
> don't
> > see a problem with 'downgrading' to the 52.xx series as it's not that
big
> a
> > step back down the timeline, if that works for you. Simple enough to try
> and
> > see.
> >
> > -craig
> >
> >
>
> I think you're right. I will give it a try..................
> Maybe there are some features added from 52.xx to 53.xx and maybe I can
> deactivate them....................
>
>

Ok, I tried 52.16 with no success. I will give a try to the latest nvidia
driver (53.72 I guess) which promisses support for the Geforce FX
5700.............Then I have to give up *sigh*
Anonymous
May 30, 2004 3:46:04 PM

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Michael Liesert wrote:
> "Michael Liesert" <liemic4@web.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:2hhm17Fbt5knU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>> DirectX 9 isn't the problem, it seems to be the Forceware drivers.
>>> I don't see a problem with 'downgrading' to the 52.xx series as
>>> it's not that big a step back down the timeline, if that works for
>>> you. Simple enough to try and see.
>>>
>>
>> I think you're right. I will give it a try..................
>> Maybe there are some features added from 52.xx to 53.xx and maybe I
>> can deactivate them....................
>
> Ok, I tried 52.16 with no success. I will give a try to the latest
> nvidia driver (53.72 I guess) which promisses support for the Geforce
> FX 5700.............Then I have to give up *sigh*

Don't give up - I found the fix! Go back to your current drivers and then
download the fixed exe from here:

http://www.thief-thecircle.com/shownews.asp?id=1602

Worked for me and many other people.

-craig
Anonymous
June 3, 2004 12:33:43 AM

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> >
> > Ok, I tried 52.16 with no success. I will give a try to the latest
> > nvidia driver (53.72 I guess) which promisses support for the Geforce
> > FX 5700.............Then I have to give up *sigh*
>
> Don't give up - I found the fix! Go back to your current drivers and then
> download the fixed exe from here:
>
> http://www.thief-thecircle.com/shownews.asp?id=1602
>
> Worked for me and many other people.
>
> -craig
>
>

Thanks. I tried thief Gold with the modified .exe provided in that link. I
could play for nearly one minute then the system hanged up. When I start it
again there is no movement possible. I think I have to go back to Nvidia
45.xx

Michael
June 9, 2004 7:23:55 PM

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I tried to follow the link but it's gone dead. :(  I've always had the same
problem when I use any of the current nvidia drivers. I've also tried using
the texture command in the config if I remember correctly. Needless to say
the only thing I've had work was to run older drivers.

Craig could you repost the link or let me know where I can get that exe.

Thanks in advance

- Loki

"Michael Liesert" <liemic4@web.de> wrote in message
news:2i6kqtFjmpo0U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > Ok, I tried 52.16 with no success. I will give a try to the latest
> > > nvidia driver (53.72 I guess) which promisses support for the Geforce
> > > FX 5700.............Then I have to give up *sigh*
> >
> > Don't give up - I found the fix! Go back to your current drivers and
then
> > download the fixed exe from here:
> >
> > http://www.thief-thecircle.com/shownews.asp?id=1602
> >
> > Worked for me and many other people.
> >
> > -craig
> >
> >
>
> Thanks. I tried thief Gold with the modified .exe provided in that link. I
> could play for nearly one minute then the system hanged up. When I start
it
> again there is no movement possible. I think I have to go back to Nvidia
> 45.xx
>
> Michael
>
>
Anonymous
June 10, 2004 1:24:43 PM

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Loki left a note on my windscreen which said:

> I tried to follow the link but it's gone dead. :(  I've always had the same
> problem when I use any of the current nvidia drivers. I've also tried using
> the texture command in the config if I remember correctly. Needless to say
> the only thing I've had work was to run older drivers.
>
> Craig could you repost the link or let me know where I can get that exe.
>
> Thanks in advance

Not providing a link for T2 due to it acting as a no-CD crack? :( 

I don't suppose anyone here has a fix for T2 for the same error?
--
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Anonymous
June 13, 2004 2:03:19 PM

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The link is still good, Loki. Did you manage to download one of them and
get it to work for you?

-craig

Loki wrote:
> I tried to follow the link but it's gone dead. :(  I've always had the
> same problem when I use any of the current nvidia drivers. I've also
> tried using the texture command in the config if I remember
> correctly. Needless to say the only thing I've had work was to run
> older drivers.
>
> Craig could you repost the link or let me know where I can get that
> exe.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> - Loki
>
> "Michael Liesert" <liemic4@web.de> wrote in message
> news:2i6kqtFjmpo0U1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I tried 52.16 with no success. I will give a try to the latest
>>>> nvidia driver (53.72 I guess) which promisses support for the
>>>> Geforce FX 5700.............Then I have to give up *sigh*
>>>
>>> Don't give up - I found the fix! Go back to your current drivers
>>> and then download the fixed exe from here:
>>>
>>> http://www.thief-thecircle.com/shownews.asp?id=1602
>>>
>>> Worked for me and many other people.
>>>
>>> -craig
Anonymous
June 13, 2004 9:14:15 PM

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"Stoneskin" <no@thanks.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Loki left a note on my windscreen which said:
>
> > I tried to follow the link but it's gone dead. :(  I've always had the
same
> > problem when I use any of the current nvidia drivers. I've also tried
using
> > the texture command in the config if I remember correctly. Needless to
say
> > the only thing I've had work was to run older drivers.
> >
> > Craig could you repost the link or let me know where I can get that exe.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
>
> Not providing a link for T2 due to it acting as a no-CD crack? :( 
>
> I don't suppose anyone here has a fix for T2 for the same error?
> --

I looked everywhere but could not find any. I wonder if anyone ever found a
workaround for thief2...........................
It becomes difficult, when you want to play thief2 and thief 3 on one
system: For thief2 you have to downgrade to somewhat 4x.xx and for thief3
you definitely need 56.72 of the detonator drivers. Maybe it was a big
mistake to buy a nvidia card as a thief2 fan.......................
Anonymous
June 14, 2004 1:56:21 PM

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Michael Liesert left a note on my windscreen which said:

> I looked everywhere but could not find any. I wonder if anyone ever found a
> workaround for thief2...........................
> It becomes difficult, when you want to play thief2 and thief 3 on one
> system: For thief2 you have to downgrade to somewhat 4x.xx and for thief3
> you definitely need 56.72 of the detonator drivers. Maybe it was a big
> mistake to buy a nvidia card as a thief2 fan.......................

Is it a gfx driver related problem? I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and I get
exactly the same error.
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Anonymous
June 15, 2004 2:57:18 AM

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"Stoneskin" <no@thanks.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:MPG.1b377895717689f2989872@news.individual.net...
> Michael Liesert left a note on my windscreen which said:
>
> > I looked everywhere but could not find any. I wonder if anyone ever
found a
> > workaround for thief2...........................
> > It becomes difficult, when you want to play thief2 and thief 3 on one
> > system: For thief2 you have to downgrade to somewhat 4x.xx and for
thief3
> > you definitely need 56.72 of the detonator drivers. Maybe it was a big
> > mistake to buy a nvidia card as a thief2 fan.......................
>
> Is it a gfx driver related problem? I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and I get
> exactly the same error.
> --
> Stoneskin

............now thats interesting. I was deeply convinced that this problem
only belongs to nvidia drivers.........................The question is:
where is the mistake? I thought something happened to the nvidia 5x.xx
drivers to make them incompatible with thief 1 and 2. But considering that
the problem also exists on ATI cards proofs this theory wrong. Have you
tried the save_texture_manager ?
Maybe it's the same error message for a whole bunch of different error
sources........................

Michael
Anonymous
June 15, 2004 2:40:07 PM

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Michael Liesert left a note on my windscreen which said:

> > Is it a gfx driver related problem? I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and I get
> > exactly the same error.
>
> ...........now thats interesting. I was deeply convinced that this problem
> only belongs to nvidia drivers.........................The question is:
> where is the mistake? I thought something happened to the nvidia 5x.xx
> drivers to make them incompatible with thief 1 and 2. But considering that
> the problem also exists on ATI cards proofs this theory wrong. Have you
> tried the save_texture_manager ?
> Maybe it's the same error message for a whole bunch of different error
> sources........................

I don't know what you mean by 'save_texture_manager'. I'll double check
the error tonight - I'm sure it was the same message tho. If you let me
know what you mean by save_texture_manager I'll give it a go and post
back my results.
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Anonymous
June 16, 2004 11:38:36 PM

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"Stoneskin" <no@thanks.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Michael Liesert left a note on my windscreen which said:
>
> > > Is it a gfx driver related problem? I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and I
get
> > > exactly the same error.
> >
> > ...........now thats interesting. I was deeply convinced that this
problem
> > only belongs to nvidia drivers.........................The question is:
> > where is the mistake? I thought something happened to the nvidia 5x.xx
> > drivers to make them incompatible with thief 1 and 2. But considering
that
> > the problem also exists on ATI cards proofs this theory wrong. Have you
> > tried the save_texture_manager ?
> > Maybe it's the same error message for a whole bunch of different error
> > sources........................
>
> I don't know what you mean by 'save_texture_manager'. I'll double check
> the error tonight - I'm sure it was the same message tho. If you let me
> know what you mean by save_texture_manager I'll give it a go and post
> back my results.
> --
> Stoneskin

I mean a line in the file 'user.cfg' in the thief2 directory. This line
says: '; safe_texture_manager' The first hint you get when you search the
web about problems with nvidia cards is to enable this texture manager by
deleting the semicolon and saving the file. This helped a lot of nvidia card
owners. In my case it wasn't helpful. Even the modified "thief.exe" files
did not help..............................Maybe it can solve you problem?

Michael
Anonymous
June 17, 2004 3:22:59 PM

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Michael Liesert left a note on my windscreen which said:

> I mean a line in the file 'user.cfg' in the thief2 directory. This line
> says: '; safe_texture_manager' The first hint you get when you search the
> web about problems with nvidia cards is to enable this texture manager by
> deleting the semicolon and saving the file. This helped a lot of nvidia card
> owners. In my case it wasn't helpful. Even the modified "thief.exe" files
> did not help..............................Maybe it can solve you problem?

I'll try this tonight. I have no idea of the effect it will have on my
ATI card tho.
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Anonymous
July 9, 2004 11:54:53 PM

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I created the patched versions of thief 1/2 to bypass this error,
ttlg/circle decided (as is their wont) not to host the thief 2 patch.

For any of the posters having problems with thief 1/2 here are all the
links:

Thief 2 V1.18 -
http://www.btinternet.com/~bobruck/files/thief2fixed.zi...

Thief 1 V1.14 -
http://www.btinternet.com/~bobruck/files/thieffixed114....

Thief 1 V1.33
http://www.btinternet.com/~bobruck/files/thieffixed133....

Thief Gold V1.37
http://www.btinternet.com/~bobruck/files/thieffixedgold...

Make sure you get the correct version(s).

Standard disclaimer applies.

--
Bruk

On Sun, 23 May 2004 15:40:46 +0200, "busk" <gibberish@secret.com>
wrote:

>I get this message when trying to run Thief I under WinXP with an NVIDIA
>FX5900 Board.
>
>Any workarounds?
>
Anonymous
July 14, 2004 10:18:12 AM

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Do you know if this fix works on laptops? It would be great to be able to play
Thief during my business trips rather than on my short breaks at home. Could
save my marriage! :)  Now I just have to wait until I can get home and get my
CDs. Too bad TDS won't work on the laptop. Guess it'll just have to sit in the
suitcase until I get home.

Nomad
!