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MY FIRST PC BUILD, NEED SOME ADVICE

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February 10, 2010 1:46:27 AM

So this is my first time building a pc, i needed some help deciding if the components all fit together or not. If you suggest something in place what i have, you can just let me know. So i have been deciding whether to go with intel or amd, and i have chose intel.

MOBO: Asus p7p55d LGA 1156 P55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel i7-920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MEMORY: Ocz Tech. 4GB- DDR3 1600 (PC-12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE: Gigabyte GZ-X2 Black Mid tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWER: Cool master xtreme power plus 600w Atx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA E-force 9800 GT 512MB GDDR3 PCIe 2.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Parts that I already have: monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, dvd-rom, dvd-writer, also I am curious if the motherboard will allow me to use my EIDE hard drive and a floopy drive.

BTW i was also looking at other motherboards such as MSI P55-GD65, MSI P55-CD53, or ASUS P7P55D Pro but I got all confused to which one would I go for, so if you could please help me out that would be awesome

thanks in advance

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February 10, 2010 2:43:47 AM

The i7 920 is an LGA 1366 chip. All the boards you list are LGA 1156. Perhaps were you looking at a i7-860?
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February 10, 2010 2:44:20 AM

Core i7 920 uses 1366 socket and P55 mobos are 1156 so they won't fit... use core i7 860 wich is also a great one.
I have tried both MSI and ASUS and they are excellent products so i should say it's your call... decide by yourself.
Before buying anything remember to (after you have products in your price range) google for benchmarks and reviews and that will for sure give you valuable info form the products you selected. I don't mean to be rude but this forums are not meant to hold and save information that you cold already know if you do a little research before posting.
Hope the info was useful :D 
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February 10, 2010 2:45:07 AM

U cant use the i7 920 on that motherboard as its for the LGA 1366 socket.
U should go for a I5 processor or a i7 860

Also try get an ati 5850 or 5770 to go with directx 11 so that u can play the newest games.

Case wise i'll choose the HAF 922 or HAF 932
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February 10, 2010 7:54:27 AM

thanks for the help
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February 10, 2010 8:10:27 AM

would this work?

MOBO: ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel i7-920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

MEMORY: Ocz Tech. 4GB- DDR3 1600 (PC-12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

CASE: Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB, FireWire and Audio Ports
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

POWER: Ultra Products Lifetime Series Pro 550-Watt ATX Power Supply
http://www.jr.com/ultra-products/pe/ULR_LSP550/?JRSourc...

GPU: EVGA E-force 9800 GT 512MB GDDR3 PCIe 2.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product


Parts that I already have: monitor (VGA with max resolution of 1280 X 1024), keyboard, mouse, speakers, dvd-rom, dvd-writer, also I am curious if the motherboard will allow me to use my EIDE hard drive or will I have to buy a new hard drive and a floppy drive.
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February 10, 2010 11:11:03 AM

You should get triple channel memory for that motherboard.
You should get a ATI Radeon 5770 video card or better, which supports DX 11.
How about this?

CPU: i7 920 $200 Microcenter

Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310

RAM: GSKILL 3x2gb 1333

GPU: XFX 5850

CPU Heatsink: Coolermaster 212

OCZ 700W

Case of your choice not included. HAF-922 recommended.

Total $1,089.98
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February 10, 2010 1:58:39 PM

First off, what are you using this computer to do? This is a relatively poor gaming rig but a powerhouse application rig. If you wanted to configure for gaming, drop down to an i5-750 in a ASUS P7P55D Pro board. Use the money you save to invest in a better card like a 5770. There are several reasons for this:

1) The 750 is more than adequate for any gaming you'd care to do. The main difference between this and the 860 is hyperthreading and if you're not using apps that use hyperthreading then you're better off with the cheaper 750.

2) Take the Pro model of the ASUS board because it will allow you to Crossfire your cards in 8x mode, whereas the LGA drops it to 4x. Tests have shown there is very little difference between 2x cards in x16 or x8 mode, but a real drop in x4.

3) Gaming is far more dependent on GPU than CPU so get a better card than the 9800. Definitely go for an ATI 5xxx card at this point in time for DX11 compatibility. You may want to hold off a month or two and wait to see Nvidia's new offerings which will be DirectX compatible. Since your monitor resolution is so low, you can comfortably game with a 5770.

System:
ASUS P7P55D Pro - $160
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz - $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 - $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Evongugg pointed out a good combo for HDD and PSU above - $125

He also shows a great cooler - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The case you chose is a bit flimsy and a little lacking in airflow. However this setup will run quite cool and use very little power so this case will be ok as long as you're not doing serious occing. - $50 Considr the Antec 200 instead at the same price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

System Total: $840




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February 11, 2010 6:22:25 AM

The reason I am building this PC is for general use with some gaming, photoshop. As for the reason why I chose the i7-920 over i5-650 is because at microcenter they have the i7-920 for 199.99 so i figured I can go with the better processor so in the future if I were to upgrade to a better processor i wouldn't have to upgrade the motherboard again. For graphics card, I don't need anything too high just something that will work with some new games (HAWX, COD MW2, World in Conflict).

I want to build this PC if I can for 700-800. So if you guys can help me out, that would be awesome. Do you thing the build with the i7-920 would still work? Do all the components go together? Will the Case and power supply will be sufficient for airflow and power the computer?

Thanks
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February 11, 2010 1:48:49 PM

$200 for an i7-920? Wish I lived near a Microcenter. Ok that changes the math a little. You can go with this motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $160

The memory has to change as well, as the i7 uses triple channel so us this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $95
Note this is only 3GB. 6GB will add $50 to $60 more to the build.

For the games you listed I'd still not go below a 5770. It's current, likely to be around if you find yourself with a better monitor. Based on your stated needs, you will eventually want a larger monitor with better resolution especially for Photoshop. When that happens you can add a second 5770 and still enjoy top of the line performance. I would recommend that you stay away from Nvidia untill their new line is out.

If you plan to do only mild overclocking or none at all you can stick with the stock cooler and shave an additional $30.

System cost: $800.
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February 11, 2010 1:56:29 PM

What about an i7-860 and then you could probably get a 5850 with some combos?
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February 11, 2010 2:00:49 PM

Microcenter had the 860 and 750 on "sale" in the past (and may still).
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February 12, 2010 2:03:18 PM

So you said to get the i7-920 from microcenter, as well as the asrock x58 extreme mobo. For the graphics card u recommend the 5770, where can I find a good price and who makes this card? Is the graphics card compatible with dirctx 11?

For the memory you said to use triple channel, so lets say if I were to buy 6 GB will I be able to fit 6 separate 1 GB ones or would I have to get 3 2GB ones? Is 3GB memory enough for my build?

You said "If you plan to do only mild overclocking or none at all you can stick with the stock cooler and shave an additional $30." What do you mean stock cooler? Is that the fan that comes with the i7-920 in the box or something different?

Is this a good cooler if you think I will need one - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] ster%20212

As for the the case and power supply, will they supply enough air flow and is the power enough for my build or should I go with a higher power supply? Any recommendation would be great. This is what I have chosen for those:

CASE: Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB, FireWire and Audio Ports
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] u=ULT33178

POWER: Ultra Products Lifetime Series Pro 550-Watt ATX Power Supply

http://www.jr.com/ultra-products/p [...] ccessories

Thanks for your help
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February 12, 2010 3:39:44 PM

Hyper 212 Plus $30


Antec Illusion and Earth watts 750 $161 before rebates Or if you can get by with a Earth watts 650 PSU a better deal is same case and 650 psu for 122 before rebate

As far as the HD 5770 look on NewEgg and find the cheapest one or one that is in a combo with another part you might need to save a few bucks. The HD5770 is a DX11 card

You will need 3x2g chips for the ram.

The Stock fan/cooler is the one that will come with the CPU when purchased which will be fine if you are not planning on OCing. If you change your mind you can always add an after market cooler later.

I suggested the case and PSU above because I do not know anything about the ones you listed. I do know that the ones I listed are of good quality. Also if you plan on using cards in Crossfire./SLI 550 watts is not going to me enough power.

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February 13, 2010 3:32:26 AM

Yep, that case should be great. It can fit a 5850 easily and I think even a 5870 (though it is close). Very good cooling as well, and the PSU is a good one (and plenty of power).
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February 14, 2010 10:20:08 PM

my final build, is this fine?

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Intel Corporation Core i7 920 Processor Boxed
http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?pro...

OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Gold 6gb Triple Channel Kit- already have this.

Total Cost- $809 after taxes and shipping
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February 14, 2010 10:34:37 PM

Yea, looks fine to me.
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February 16, 2010 4:16:10 AM

I was looking at cases and was wondering if any of these cases would be good? I heard cool master cases are good as antec cases.

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER ELITE 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Sileo 500 RC-500-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Body ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gladiator 600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

which of these cases would be sufficient for airflow with the above build? What power source do you recommend? 650W or higher? If you can post a link for the power supply that would be great.

Thanks
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February 16, 2010 11:47:12 AM

I have the first case, and while I do like it, it has two major flaws.

1) to clean the front filter you have to remove the front which involves removing the DVD drive and then pulling it off.

2) only an 80mm front fan which is not good for airflow or noise.

Personally, I'd still recommend an Antec 300 Illusion if your budget allows.
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February 19, 2010 10:48:24 PM

Hi, again I have a question on which motherboard to get. I was thinking to get the asrock x58 extreme but then I saw reviews that some people are having problems with the ocz gold 6gb ram, which i already bought?

I was also looking at asus p6t se or how about the gigabyte x58-ud3r? which of these are better, I have no intention of crossfire/sli right now but probably will in the future.

Also for the case I am planning to buy the antec 300, but before I buy it was wondering how it compares to the antec 300 illusion and antec 200? In regarding these cases, will I be able to add a card reader to the 5.25" slot? Can you also recommend a power supply (how about the antec tp650w?).

The graphics card that I decided to go with is the xfx radeon hd 5770, is this good? The only reason I ask is because on newegg many people give bad comments regarding the new update catalyst causes gray lines on the screen.

Thanks, hope to make the purchases soon and start building my first pc
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February 20, 2010 3:01:00 AM

The Antec 300 Illusion adds two front 120mm fans and is worth the extra cost over the regular 300 for that reason alone. And LEDs never hurt.
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February 20, 2010 6:52:50 AM

Thanks

I have a questions on which motherboard to get. I was thinking to get the asrock x58 extreme but then I saw reviews that some people are having problems with the ocz gold 6gb ram, which i already bought?

I was also looking at asus p6t se or how about the gigabyte x58-ud3r? which of these are better, I have no intention of crossfire/sli right now but probably will in the future.

Also for the case I am planning to buy the antec 300, but before I buy it was wondering how it compares to the antec 300 illusion and antec 200? In regarding these cases, will I be able to add a card reader to the 5.25" slot? Can you also recommend a power supply (how about the antec tp650w?).

The graphics card that I decided to go with is the xfx radeon hd 5770, is this good? The only reason I ask is because on newegg many people give bad comments regarding the new update catalyst causes gray lines on the screen.

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February 25, 2010 6:23:37 PM

can someone help me decided which of these motherboards is good?

1. Msi x58 pro-e
2. Gigabyte ga-x58a-ud3r (rev.1)
3. Asus p6tse
4. Asus p6t
5. Asrock x58 extreme

From these boards, which is better for a budget build, will be doing some overclocking. Whats the difference with the two asus boards? Which of the boards will be good for future upgrades for gpu's and memory?

Thanks
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March 5, 2010 11:21:02 PM

I am building my first pc and was wondering which of
these motherboards would be good for some gaming. I am trying not to
get a hardcore overclocking motherboard, these motherboards are within my budget.

1. Msi x58 pro-e

2. Gigabyte ga-x58a-ud3r (rev.1) or Gigabyte ga-x58-ud3r

3. Asus p6tse

4. Asus p6t

5.... Asrock x58 extreme

From these boards, which is better for a budget build, will be
doing some overclocking. Whats the difference with the two asus boards?
Which of the boards will be good for future upgrades for gpu's and
memory?
I have a questions on which motherboard to get. I was thinking to get
the asrock x58 extreme but then I saw reviews that some people are
having problems with the ocz gold 6gb ram, which i already bought?
I was also looking at asus p6t se or how about the gigabyte
x58-ud3r? which of these are better, I have no intention of
crossfire/sli right now but probably will in the future.

Thanks
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