I need help picking mobo and cpu

[ghosttoast54]

i may be getting


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

2 of those




http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103692


and that it make s 611 dollars . is there a intel alternative chioce that costs the same of is better and faster for games

 

[mindless728]

not really, though go for the Phenom II X4 955 instead, it has an unlocked multiplier and is a little cheaper, also has the same performance as the 965

 

[ghosttoast54]

is there a i5 with unlock because for the next holiday im getting a i7 . how much better is a phemon than a i5

 

[mindless728]

is there a i5 with unlock because for the next holiday im getting a i7 . how much better is a phemon than a i5

the only intel processors that have the multiplier unlocked are the extreme editions, and those are usually around $1k

the Phenom II, i5, and i7 are all about even in gaming, though in more CPU intensive apps like video encoding the i5 and i7 would do better, though both are more expensive than the Phenom II

 

[ghosttoast54]

how sure are u about that i myself think intel is better and i plan to switch to nvideo i dnt think amd mobo worlk with nvideo .how sure are u that the multiplyer is locked because i seen everywhere overlcoking i5 guild and stuff

 

[mindless728]

i am very sure that between intel and amd, gaming is the same

all of that over clocking is done through the bclk, not the multiplier

a NV card will work fine in that motherboard, though just don't expect to be able to use sli on it

with the i5/i7 system, many of the motherboards support both crossfire and sli

 

[ghosttoast54]

i also want a fast processer for multitasking as well. what does blck mean and i am kinda nooby at overclocking as well. i see u have a amd ati setup ur setup looks prett good. i would also want to sli.

 

[mindless728]

i also want a fast processer for multitasking as well. what does blck mean and i am kinda nooby at overclocking as well. i see u have a amd ati setup ur setup looks prett good. i would also want to sli.

blck is the base clock where the cpu is determined, bclk x mult = cpu speed, so for the intel platform you raise blck (unless you have an extreme edition), on AMD its the same thing unless the procesor is a black edition, though right now are a low cheaper

if you really want an sli system i would go intel just because NV's chipsets are pretty bad since the nForce4 days

though have you though about giving ATI a go?

thanks for the comment about my system, i actually added the second 4870 not too long ago, $160 to upgrade to the performance of a $400 GPU (5870)

 

[ghosttoast54]

i have a 4890 its really good. but the mean greenies have pysxics and games have less issues . and so can u oc a 15 with exterm edtion

 

[ghosttoast54]

blck is the base clock where the cpu is determined, bclk x mult = cpu speed, so for the intel platform you raise blck (unless you have an extreme edition), on AMD its the same thing unless the procesor is a black edition, though right now are a low cheaper

if you really want an sli system i would go intel just because NV's chipsets are pretty bad since the nForce4 days

though have you though about giving ATI a go?

thanks for the comment about my system, i actually added the second 4870 not too long ago, $160 to upgrade to the performance of a $400 GPU (5870)

i have a 4890 its really good. but the mean greenies have pysxics and games have less issues . and so can u oc a 15 with exterm edtion

 

[ghosttoast54]

blck is the base clock where the cpu is determined, bclk x mult = cpu speed, so for the intel platform you raise blck (unless you have an extreme edition), on AMD its the same thing unless the procesor is a black edition, though right now are a low cheaper

if you really want an sli system i would go intel just because NV's chipsets are pretty bad since the nForce4 days

though have you though about giving ATI a go?

thanks for the comment about my system, i actually added the second 4870 not too long ago, $160 to upgrade to the performance of a $400 GPU (5870)

also plz help me find an eviliant of my mobo and a really good i5

 

[mindless728]

im not the best with intel mobo's, but this one supports sli @ x8/x8

EDIT: the only i5 that is worth going for really is the i5-750, as it is a quad core, all of the other i5's are dual cores w/ hyperthreading

quite a bit more than the board you chose for the AMD solution
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131407

or you could go with an AsRock one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157172

like i said, for a pure gaming system, AMD would be fine, though i would suggest AMD + ATI CF since NV's chipsets aren't that great. Though there are plenty of people that are happy with AMD + NV SLI

 

[mindless728]

also consider getting this memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

same speed but better latency (CAS7 vs you CAS9) and not much more expensive

EDIT: and really for gaming 4GB is enough, so one set should do, and if you need more you can always buy more memory

 

[ghosttoast54]

is that ram really that much better

 

[ghosttoast54]

also consider getting this memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

same speed but better latency (CAS7 vs you CAS9) and not much more expensive

EDIT: and really for gaming 4GB is enough, so one set should do, and if you need more you can always buy more memory

im spending 640 already

is that ram really that much better

 

[mindless728]

im spending 640 already

is that ram really that much better

not too much, though like i said, you could go to 4GB of ram, for gaming 8GB is not necessary

 

[ghosttoast54]

not too much, though like i said, you could go to 4GB of ram, for gaming 8GB is not necessary

metro 2033 opimal requres 8gb haha jk

like how much better is it

 

[ghosttoast54]

not too much, though like i said, you could go to 4GB of ram, for gaming 8GB is not necessary

also im definaly getting 8gbs btw and since im getting an i5 do i have to use 6gb or something

 

[mindless728]

i wouldn't worry about the optimal settings of Metro 2033, unless you are getting 2 x GTX480

the difference in ram is more than likely close to un-noticeable tbh, its just nice to have if you have memory sensitive apps

LGA1156 processors only have 2 memory channels so don't worry about groups of three, ie 8GB will run in dual channel just fine

do you know what video card(s) you are getting?

 

[ghosttoast54]

i wouldn't worry about the optimal settings of Metro 2033, unless you are getting 2 x GTX480

the difference in ram is more than likely close to un-noticeable tbh, its just nice to have if you have memory sensitive apps

LGA1156 processors only have 2 memory channels so don't worry about groups of three, ie 8GB will run in dual channel just fine

do you know what video card(s) you are getting?

im gunna deal with the video cards a bit later my 4890 is pretty good for now

so all that *** will fit in the haf 922 right

 

[ghosttoast54]

i wouldn't worry about the optimal settings of Metro 2033, unless you are getting 2 x GTX480

the difference in ram is more than likely close to un-noticeable tbh, its just nice to have if you have memory sensitive apps

LGA1156 processors only have 2 memory channels so don't worry about groups of three, ie 8GB will run in dual channel just fine

do you know what video card(s) you are getting?

and what do u mean memory sesitive apps is there any advantage to haveing the other ram

 

[mindless728]

the HAF922 is actually closer to a full tower than mid tower, it will be able to fit everything just fine

by memory sensitive apps, i mean apps that read and write to memory many times, games not so much, honestly the best reason to get low latency memory is to OC better, since if a clock is unstable on the memory you can up the latency and voltage to gain stability

idk, maybe you could get another 4890 in crossfire for like $200 and get GTX480 performance out of a system

 

[ghosttoast54]

will the motherboard im getting also support the i7 or no

 

[ghosttoast54]

the HAF922 is actually closer to a full tower than mid tower, it will be able to fit everything just fine

by memory sensitive apps, i mean apps that read and write to memory many times, games not so much, honestly the best reason to get low latency memory is to OC better, since if a clock is unstable on the memory you can up the latency and voltage to gain stability

idk, maybe you could get another 4890 in crossfire for like $200 and get GTX480 performance out of a system

i bought all the stuf and he more expensive ram and put it toagather and now im getting blue sreccn of death hard dirve error

 

[ghosttoast54]

nvm fixed it