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November 10, 2012 10:06:19 AM

I am about to buy i7 3770 and I need to decide if it is worth buying K version or not. CPU power will be essential in Photoshop (processing RAW files), occasionaly I would do some video. I dont' intend to use water cooling.

Negative side when OC is:
- more expensive CPU
- better cooling
- possible stability issues?

Are there enough positive points and how much would I gain with OC CPU in real day-to-day work to justify those negative points?

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November 10, 2012 10:25:47 AM

default is very good
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November 10, 2012 11:27:33 AM

Yes, just leave it default. No need in your case to overclock.
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November 11, 2012 3:33:08 AM

:shrug:
If you do not need to, then don't.

On the other hand, an i7 is expensive enough that the extra cost for a "K" model is almost insignificant. Why give up the added flexibility?
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November 11, 2012 4:47:23 AM

Get a good GPU for Photoshop.
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November 11, 2012 5:33:34 AM

Id OC, honestly with the tolerance of todays hardware little reason exists not to. If you want to do a safe OC with minimal extra heat generated and very little extra money spent on your OC just do it with stock voltage, you will still get plenty of headroom from your CPU
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November 11, 2012 5:43:51 AM

A 3770 costs $300
A 3770k costs $320 + Air cooler $30+ = $50 more if you want the "K"

A good GPU? Do you mean a cheap one? Cuz photoshop doesn't use a GPU like in gaming.

Apple is know for making computers to do graphic work, right? In the Mac Pro ($2000+), the GPU is a 5770 (old, yet costs $100)

You don't need to spend much on GPU. But if you wanted to, then I'd buy this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 11, 2012 7:27:46 AM

"I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it"
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November 11, 2012 5:31:24 PM

envy14tpe said:
A 3770 costs $300
A 3770k costs $320 + Air cooler $30+ = $50 more if you want the "K"

A good GPU? Do you mean a cheap one? Cuz photoshop doesn't use a GPU like in gaming.

Apple is know for making computers to do graphic work, right? In the Mac Pro ($2000+), the GPU is a 5770 (old, yet costs $100)

You don't need to spend much on GPU. But if you wanted to, then I'd buy this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Photoshop can use OpenCL and CUDA to increase performance.
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November 11, 2012 5:59:14 PM

Thank you all for your opinions.
Envy14tpe, unfortunately in Slovenia price difference between K & normal 3770 is cca 40 eur, including good cooler I get close to 80 or 90 eur. For this amount I'd rather buy second SSD. Some photoshop sites even suggest multi HD setup to be most effective for photoshop.

And I agree with amuffin on GPU. With CS6 photoshop now supports OpenCL and CUDA works only with some 3rd party plugins. I am buying a GPU somewhere in 200-250 eur range so this should be enough.
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November 11, 2012 10:06:52 PM

Provy said:
Thank you all for your opinions.
Envy14tpe, unfortunately in Slovenia price difference between K & normal 3770 is cca 40 eur, including good cooler I get close to 80 or 90 eur. For this amount I'd rather buy second SSD. Some photoshop sites even suggest multi HD setup to be most effective for photoshop.

And I agree with amuffin on GPU. With CS6 photoshop now supports OpenCL and CUDA works only with some 3rd party plugins. I am buying a GPU somewhere in 200-250 eur range so this should be enough.


The price is high on the K, that's why I suggested to not buy the "K" model. Instead use the money to buy a SSD or a Western Digital Caviar Black HDD.

What kind of GPU are you looking at for 200-250eur? I know a GPU can help but how much do you need it? I only use photoshop Elements so I'm not familiar with the bells and whistles of CS6.
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November 11, 2012 11:32:00 PM

Well, if you plan to render videos, overclocking will definitely help.
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November 12, 2012 12:03:52 AM

envy14tpe said:
A 3770 costs $300
A 3770k costs $320 + Air cooler $30+ = $50 more if you want the "K"

A good GPU? Do you mean a cheap one? Cuz photoshop doesn't use a GPU like in gaming.

Apple is know for making computers to do graphic work, right? In the Mac Pro ($2000+), the GPU is a 5770 (old, yet costs $100)

You don't need to spend much on GPU. But if you wanted to, then I'd buy this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

"A 3770k costs $320 + Air cooler $30+ = $50 more if you want the "K""? You added another $20 for the K edition and then say it's gonna be $50 more? The K edition is like $10 to $20 more.
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November 12, 2012 12:05:26 AM

To overclock is to not overclock.
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November 12, 2012 1:25:20 AM

melikepie said:
"A 3770k costs $320 + Air cooler $30+ = $50 more if you want the "K""? You added another $20 for the K edition and then say it's gonna be $50 more? The K edition is like $10 to $20 more.


Nobody buys the "k" model and uses the stock cooler. So one would need to spend at least $30usd for one. Plus, I saw the "k" model listed as $20 more than non-K. That means $50 or more, as I wrote.

The OP later stated that he was in Slovenia, so prices are higher. It would cost him in the ballpark of $80usd instead of the $50 range. Read his/her post.
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November 12, 2012 7:25:25 AM

envy14tpe said:
The price is high on the K, that's why I suggested to not buy the "K" model. Instead use the money to buy a SSD or a Western Digital Caviar Black HDD.

What kind of GPU are you looking at for 200-250eur? I know a GPU can help but how much do you need it? I only use photoshop Elements so I'm not familiar with the bells and whistles of CS6.


Sorry, I missed that you were replying on the previus post regarding price difference.

GPU will probably be 7850 or 7870 as 79xx and 660 are a bit too expensive, at least for now. I don't expect GPU to play important role for Photoshop (compared to CPU), but if something gets done faster because of it, even better.
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November 12, 2012 12:41:57 PM

Provy said:
Sorry, I missed that you were replying on the previus post regarding price difference.

GPU will probably be 7850 or 7870 as 79xx and 660 are a bit too expensive, at least for now. I don't expect GPU to play important role for Photoshop (compared to CPU), but if something gets done faster because of it, even better.


Why are you considering the 7850 or 7870? I thought Nvidia released Quatro GPUs for photo editing. Please correct me.

If I were to spend the cost of a 7870 for editing then I'd put it in the CPU and overclock that shxx and buy a cheaper GPU.
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November 13, 2012 8:46:59 AM

I could be wrong but AFAIK until CS6 GPU was more or less useless in Photoshop, exception were some use of CUDA. With CS6 now supports OpenCL so any GPU with proper drivers can help - but its hard to tell, how much. I haven't found any good examples so far.

Quadra GPUs are just a bit too 'professional' (I don't have better expression, sorry). They are very good but their usefullness is just too narrow for me. Beside that I think they are meant more for 3D or video applications. (again, I could be wrong about that).
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November 13, 2012 10:37:41 AM

Provy said:
I am about to buy i7 3770 and I need to decide if it is worth buying K version or not. CPU power will be essential in Photoshop (processing RAW files), occasionaly I would do some video. I dont' intend to use water cooling.

Negative side when OC is:
- more expensive CPU
- better cooling
- possible stability issues?

Are there enough positive points and how much would I gain with OC CPU in real day-to-day work to justify those negative points?


Provy said:
Thank you all for your opinions.
Envy14tpe, unfortunately in Slovenia price difference between K & normal 3770 is cca 40 eur, including good cooler I get close to 80 or 90 eur. For this amount I'd rather buy second SSD. Some photoshop sites even suggest multi HD setup to be most effective for photoshop.

And I agree with amuffin on GPU. With CS6 photoshop now supports OpenCL and CUDA works only with some 3rd party plugins. I am buying a GPU somewhere in 200-250 eur range so this should be enough.


Provy said:
Sorry, I missed that you were replying on the previus post regarding price difference.

GPU will probably be 7850 or 7870 as 79xx and 660 are a bit too expensive, at least for now. I don't expect GPU to play important role for Photoshop (compared to CPU), but if something gets done faster because of it, even better.


Provy said:
I could be wrong but AFAIK until CS6 GPU was more or less useless in Photoshop, exception were some use of CUDA. With CS6 now supports OpenCL so any GPU with proper drivers can help - but its hard to tell, how much. I haven't found any good examples so far.

Quadra GPUs are just a bit too 'professional' (I don't have better expression, sorry). They are very good but their usefullness is just too narrow for me. Beside that I think they are meant more for 3D or video applications. (again, I could be wrong about that).


Forget the overclocking route, it's just not necessary for Photoshop rendering, the i7 3770 will handle it just fine! Ryan
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November 13, 2012 11:36:57 AM

Dej povej kake specifikacije ostalih komponent imaš =)
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