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November 11, 2012 4:04:56 PM

MY COMPUTER
Case
HAF 912
PSU
850W corsair enthusiast series
GPU
GTX 670 MSI lighting edition(1241[in game using msi afterburner counter]/3500)
CPU
FX-8120(4.7Ghz)
MOBO
Gigabyte GA-970a-UD3
RAM
2x4GB 1333mhz
DVD Driver
Regular drive
HDD
Caviar Black 1TB
Heatsink
Hyper212+

My system or my gpu can only go +65 with the core clock and +500 with memory before the drivers fail, I have never had any artifacts or anything like that so i'm very confused... I hear people can do much better,

Thank you in advance :D 
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November 11, 2012 7:23:36 PM

Performance varies from card to card, each one is different and unique as I'm sure you know. For a gtx670 thats not too bad, you did well on the memory. Try increasing your power slider to the max, and make sure you temperatures stay under 70C as at that temperature the card throttle's down by 13mhz (thats how they designed the 670).

Hope this helps!
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November 11, 2012 9:22:16 PM

shouldnt i get artifacts when it is overclocking too high though?
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November 11, 2012 10:44:58 PM

If you overclock the gpu too high in most cases you will just crash, either getting a driver error or something like "device disconnected." If you push the memory too high, then it is common to get artifacts. However you may reach instability before that happens. The gtx670 is limited to 1.175v, however I believe the msi power edition has unlocked voltage in the second BIOS, I am not 100% sure however.
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November 11, 2012 11:04:04 PM

hmm will that lower my cards life? the overvoltage
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November 11, 2012 11:09:07 PM

Overvolting typically lowers your card's life, especially if temperature is not kept under control (below 70-80 C).
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November 11, 2012 11:21:19 PM

Yes, it would however if you keep the voltage and temperatures under control you should be fine. However if you don't need the performance that badly then you might want to leave the voltage at stock. Overvolting the gtx600's series is not too common. It is either done by having a card like yours which supports it, or through a BIOS mod.
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November 11, 2012 11:24:37 PM

yeah, its overvolted all the way in msi after burner how long do you think my card will last with it like this?
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November 11, 2012 11:34:14 PM

If its 1.175v then its on stock. I believe to overvolt your card you'd first have to set the second BIOS on it.
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November 11, 2012 11:34:35 PM

Whats the voltage?
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November 11, 2012 11:48:44 PM

how do i check my volts? also I heard i should update the bios for it im running off the
80.04.31.00.46(P2004-0005)
^ i dont know if this means anything
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November 11, 2012 11:54:15 PM

If you don't already have it, download GPU-z. Then open it up and it should tell you everything you need to know. It should tell you the voltage you are running at. Also flashing the BIOS could be useful if MSI has released any major updates (ie. for adjusting voltage). You can check on their website to see if there is anything newer. But before you upgrade the BIOS make sure you know what you're doing.

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November 11, 2012 11:57:48 PM

I found the latest BIOS for your card:
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/N670-PE-2GD5-OC.html#/?di...

They say it improves compatibility with different motherboards, but they don't mention anything else significant, so for now I would leave it how it is.

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November 12, 2012 12:02:12 AM

After looking around a bit, I found out that apparently gpuz will not display voltages over 1.175v for your card. Download the latest version of MSI afterburner and that should show you your voltage and allow you to adjust it past the stock 1.175v limit.

Hope this helps!
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November 12, 2012 12:03:07 AM

Core: 1325Mhz / Mem: 3557MHz (stable in heaven) thumb.gif
If I increase the core offset, I can reach about 1350MHz on core in 3dmark 11 but heaven crashes some times. (I didn't do it for those tests)

In AB:
Core Voltage: +0mV
Power Limit: 114% (Max)
Core Clock: +97Mhz (I'll tweak that higher later if I can)
Memory Clock: +550Mhz

All my tests passed under 62°c (~59 average)
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November 12, 2012 12:07:09 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Core: 1325Mhz / Mem: 3557MHz (stable in heaven) thumb.gif
If I increase the core offset, I can reach about 1350MHz on core in 3dmark 11 but heaven crashes some times. (I didn't do it for those tests)

In AB:
Core Voltage: +0mV
Power Limit: 114% (Max)
Core Clock: +97Mhz (I'll tweak that higher later if I can)
Memory Clock: +550Mhz

All my tests passed under 62°c (~59 average)

what bios are you using... I got that from you from the other post but I cant find the post now :lol: 
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November 12, 2012 2:02:52 AM

im am extremely confused about what just happened... i would love to get mine up t 1418!
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November 12, 2012 3:51:13 AM

do you think i should get my card replaced and hope for better luck?
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November 12, 2012 5:04:23 AM

PanicMaster85 said:
do you think i should get my card replaced and hope for better luck?

you shouldn't send your card back unless it is broken
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November 12, 2012 2:12:47 PM

well its choppy under 50 so I think it may be
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November 12, 2012 2:44:18 PM

It's pretty much not possible you should be able to get at least 55 FPS on ultra settings with the GTX 670. Try to type "Gametime.maxvariablefps XX" into the console (open by pushing the ~ button on your keyboard), XX being your desired frame rate cap.
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November 12, 2012 3:20:05 PM

Texture quality: High
Shadow quality: Med
Effects quality: Med
Mesh quality: High
Terrain quality: High
Terrain decoration: High
Anti-aliasing (deferred): Off
Anti-aliasing (post): High
Motion Blur: off
Anisotropic filtering: 8x
Ambient occlusion: Off
Try these settings in BF3 when you can tell me what you get going to find out once and for all if it's your cpu.
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November 12, 2012 10:27:14 PM

OK, is there anyway to benchmark it?
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November 12, 2012 10:46:26 PM

Battlefield has a built in FPS reading output.

You can turn it on by first pressing the tilda key ' ~ ' (top left of most English keyboards - to the left of the '1') and then type "render.drawfps true"

You can then turn it off by changing the true to false
I will assume that you have FRAPS(if not you can get the free version from FRAPS.com;the main difference between the full and the demo AFAIK is that in the demo you can record videos of upto 30 seconds at a time)/

Run FRAPS before starting BF3
Load a section of a mission that is graphics intensive(plenty of smoke,destruction,enemies and explosions).
Press F11 or whatever the hotkey you have set for benchmark.
Play your normal game while FRAPS benchmarks for <insert time here>. Press F11 again to stop benchmark. The min, max and average FPS will be stored in a spreadsheet file.
Repeat this to get an average min,max and average.

Note: Make sure you have the MinMaxAvg dialog ticked under benchmark settings.For legit Benchmarking, this article and links provided within it may interest you.
http://pcformat.techradar.com/2012/02/06/overclocking-e...
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November 12, 2012 10:49:00 PM

what mission would you recommend? I was going to run a 64player game on golf of oman
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November 12, 2012 11:21:51 PM

Battlefield 3 Single player - Operation Swordbreaker

To test in this preview we loaded up the first mission in the single player portion of the game which is "Operation Swordbreaker." We played the first 10 minutes of this mission and recorded our framerate with FRAPS. A lot of visual effects actually take place during just these first 10 minutes, including close ups of characters, outdoor environments, explosions, and battle sequences.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/25/battlefield_3...
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November 12, 2012 11:24:53 PM

OK ill do that but here is it in a 64 player golf of oman
http://imageshack.us/v_images.php

ill do the operation swordbreaker

I cant record though :/  any other suggestions besides screenshots?
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November 12, 2012 11:27:54 PM

your link doesn't work for me and no fresh out suggestions
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November 13, 2012 12:00:53 AM

Cool it worked not to bad try it with these settings tell me what you think Texture quality: High
Shadow quality:Medium
Effects quality: Medium
Mesh quality: Medium
Terrain quality: High
Terrain decoration: High
Anti-aliasing (deferred): Off
Anti-aliasing (post): High
Motion Blur: off
Anisotropic filtering: 8x
Ambient occlusion: Off
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November 13, 2012 12:12:01 AM

Just try gaming for a bit with those settings tell me later if your getting better fps if not it's your cpu or card
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November 13, 2012 12:18:04 AM

between ultra and those settings?
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November 13, 2012 12:21:28 AM

Yes
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November 13, 2012 12:28:01 AM

yes between ultra and those settings i see about a 14fps jump... this really pisses me off i just wasted a lot of money on a gpu that does not give me what is said it does :( 
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November 13, 2012 12:37:36 AM

Yeah i can understand that i would be pissed as well. I hope you have your cpu overclocked when your testing.
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November 13, 2012 12:43:10 AM

yeah it is... god damn this is weird what do you think? do you think it is the cpu? also what about crysis it is easier to run than bf3 but im getting lower fps in it :/  that makes me want to beat my computer :rage:
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November 13, 2012 1:25:08 AM

No i do worse in crysis



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November 13, 2012 1:40:01 AM

:(  thats quite dissapointing... so one other thing that really makes me worry, anything below 50(legit even 49-50 are a big difference) it gets pretty damn choppy, so it looks like its 30 do you think thats the card, the cpu, or what?
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November 13, 2012 2:00:11 AM

Revert to stock settings, run 3d mark and Heaven benchmark tests. Compare your results to other stock 670s. If they match your card is fine. Make sure you have the latest drivers installed before doing this.
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November 13, 2012 2:09:55 AM

wow :D  never though of that il check back
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November 13, 2012 2:16:15 AM

o.k. so i reset my overclock test crysis 2 stock card settings MIN 40.99 fps MAX 72.6fps Average 52.67fps
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November 13, 2012 2:17:48 AM

PanicMaster85 said:
wow :D  never though of that il check back
It's magic shhhh... ;) 
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November 13, 2012 2:18:28 AM

ok so on stock with my gtx 670 msi power edition i got 1153
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November 13, 2012 2:19:04 AM

mine oc dropped below 40 easy... its weird the worst part was when i was looking at boxes :/ 
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November 13, 2012 2:30:14 AM

PanicMaster85 said:
mine oc dropped below 40 easy... its weird the worst part was when i was looking at boxes :/ 
:ouch:  Not good go back to your org bios
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November 13, 2012 2:30:22 AM

CPU i5-2500k @ stock MSI 670 PE @ Stock Heaven 3.0 FPS 48.2 Scores 1175 Min FPS 22.1 MAX FPS 124.7
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November 13, 2012 2:35:32 AM

what do you mean? yeah its really starting to scare me, also note that heaven is not cpu intensive and i have my gpu at 99% usage the entire time but in games its different
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November 13, 2012 2:40:51 AM

I know that i was just listing how the test was run for you as far as your card only thing i could think is it's your CPU if not you just did not a card from a good batch..
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