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$650-750 gaming PC – Advice Requested

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February 12, 2010 10:34:53 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Hopefully Monday 2/12/2010 BUDGET RANGE: $650-750 after MIR, would like to stay within this range, slightly flexible if the performance upgrade would warrant it.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming (WOW mainly for now), web surfing, movies *I would like the system to be as future proof as possible for the price.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS (using XP now, plan to move to Win 7 shortly, but please don’t factor OS price in the build)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: Whatever yields the best performance

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1600x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Basically just looking for the most bang for the buck, semi quiet would be a bonus. Please feel free to offer other build ideas if there would be performance gains!


AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor – Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
*I would like too stick with the quad core.

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W & Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) Combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

MOBO: I’m not really sure on the mobo selection, looking for the best board that would balance well with the rest of the build.

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case – Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$661.93 – After MIR $609.13 *Price does not include the mobo

I believe everything I have currently is compatible, please let me know if it is not.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
February 12, 2010 10:54:48 PM

I figure your budget for a mobo to be around $90. At this price point you are not far away from being able to get a mobo that supports crossfire, which is advisable and desirable when everything else in your build is setup and ready for it.
ASRock M3A785GXH/128M AM3 785G $92 + $3 shipping
or
MSI 790X-G45 AM3 790X $100
This one ends up being cheaper than the MSI GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 790X $105 with $15 MIR
I sense that you don't want to crossfire because you are thinking about just replacing the 5770 when it no longer meets your requirements, however if you keep the option open for crossfire then you will have two options when this happens.
Shame that CPU doesn't come in any combos with mobos.
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February 12, 2010 10:56:59 PM

you have a great start! i want to make 2 suggestions.

first, i would go with the corsair 750 or 850TX PSU they are just better PSUs. the 850 has a bundle with the 5770

second, here is what i suggest for a motherboard...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

at $140 bucks it fits perfectly in your build. Gigabyte makes some of the best motherboards out there and the SATA 6G along with USB 3.0 will really help future proof the rig.

overall, i think you are going to have a hard time finding another rig that has tons more bang for your buck. nice rig

Hope this helps and Happy Building!
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February 13, 2010 2:10:19 AM

Silvune, you make a good point about getting a mobo capable of handling crossfire in case I decide to go that route in the future. I see that you listed boards under $90 would you agree with rammar16 to go with the gigabyte mobo if I was willing to spend the extra money for it? Would the performance upgrade be worth the extra money?

Rammar16, I looked at the corsair PSU’s with the 850 combo and with the board you suggested it puts the rig around $820. That’s a little out of my price range at the moment…any other suggestions that can bring down the price a little?

Would it be a better solution to pick the cheaper ASRock or MSI board and pick up the corsair PSU?

List of component prices as if may simplify things from my original list:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 $160.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB $114.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W & Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 Combo $239.99 MIR $199.98
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel Case $61.99 MIR $49.99
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD $54.99
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R $28.99
MOBO ???
Total $661.93 MIR $609.13

Thank you both for the suggestions, please keep the input coming!
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February 13, 2010 3:36:31 AM

hey guys, i was going to start a new thread but since res123 is pretty much building the same rig as i am i decided to post in here instead. i was told that the GA-MA790GPT-UD3H would be a good fit for my rig but seeing now that you guys are recommending different mobos would the GA-790XTA-UD4 be that much better than the one i was recommended a couple of months ago, GA-MA790GPT-UD3H?

here is what i have got so far,

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB -
Item #: N82E16819103674
$160.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD -
Item #: N82E16813128398
$104.99 [$15.00 MIR] Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $89.99

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP -
Item #: N82E16814102858
AND
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready -
Item #: N82E16817341018
$229.98 [30.00 + 10.00 MIRs] Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $189.98 10% off with promo code Febc10, ends 2/14
Combo: 329720

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116758
$139.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -
Item #: N82E16822136319
$74.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM -
Item #: N82E16820231278
$114.99

im planning on finally pulling the trigger tomorrow night so please respond!

btw, if there is a problem with me posting about my rig in this thread then ill link you to my original thread.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/273145-31-first-gamin...
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February 13, 2010 11:07:53 AM

The one rammar listed is basically just the USB 3/SATA 6Gbps version of the Gigabyte mobo that I listed, so for future-proofing, yes it probably is a better option and I believe the cheapest such AM3 board. The Asus M4A79TD Evo is a good board as well, altho it doesn't have USB 3 or SATA 6Gbps.

As for PSU that OCZ is perfectly fine, because it has enough power and connectors for either two 5770s or one 5850/5870. However this means that it only has two PCI-E connectors, which might not be the best option for future-proofing, so a 750W PSU is most likely to have the necessary connectors, while not being too much more expensive. Antec, Silverstone, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX do good 750W PSUs, and it's usually a good idea to double check with a professional review that the PSU is decent. Jonnyguru.com is the preferred source, but he doesn't often do the ones that I seem think are mainstream high-end. So hardwaresecrets is the site I most often rely on to give judgements about how good a PSU is. 750W PSUs should be around $120-$130 max including shipping.

Origin, as far as I'm concerned the only reason to change boards is if you can find a better deal on one or if that one doesn't have a feature you want. However it looks like you have plenty of room in your budget, I haven't checked but it might even be enough to get a 5850 into it. You are also only a $150 at most away from being able to afford a new monitor.
Just so you know the Samsung Spinpoint F3s and Seagate Barracuda 7200.12s are usually better performers, altho the WD Caviar Black 640GB is one of WD's best.
I would suggest either bumping your original thread or making a new one as you will get more responses, you can of course keep track of this thread as well if anything interesting comes up.
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February 13, 2010 11:43:53 PM

Thanks for the advice once again Silvune. I went ahead with the Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 to future proof the rig a little.

Heres the final build I plan on going with, I'll be placing the order tomorrow...if anyone else has any other suggestions before then please let me know!

AMD Phenom II X4 955 $160.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W & Radeon HD 5770 $239.99 MIR $199.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel Case $61.99 MIR $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 AM3 $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $801.93 After MIR $749.92
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