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June 10, 2005 9:09:39 PM

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I was just thinking of switching to a VoIP phone service (SunRocket, FWIW)
when it occurred to me to wonder if that would cause problems with my Replay
(an older ShowStopper model). Is there any way to download updates via VoIP?
Is Ethernet an option? (I haven't looked at the back of the thing in a long
while...)

TIA!

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Anonymous
June 11, 2005 3:53:11 AM

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"JustRick" <rick@[nospam]broida.com> wrote in message
news:CJSdnVU24OUHnDffRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>I was just thinking of switching to a VoIP phone service (SunRocket, FWIW)
>when it occurred to me to wonder if that would cause problems with my
>Replay

I found out the hard way with my 3030 model when I went to Vonage... I tried
every setting trick anyone mentioned on the Vonage forums, but I couldn't
get it to work more than once in 200 tries over two weeks.... I finally
caved and bought a 5580 and gave the 3030 to my parents...

The un-offiicial response was "hey, you're paying for a Voice-quality
connection and your ear isn't as picky about lost bits as your modem is..."

In the end, having the 5580 is a blessing in disguies... with DVArchive,
I've turned an old PC and a 120-gig drive into a video server to hold all of
my daughter's favorite movies. I record the movie to the 5580 from an
attached DVD player, then download it to the PC and delete it from the
ReplayTV. DVA makes the 5580 think the PC is another ReplayTv, so I can
then stream the movies back to the 5580 while preserving space for regular
recording...

So far, I've got 10 Disney movies on the video server... makes it easy to
accmodate my 3-yr old's movie requests--just select and play :) 


> Is there any way to download updates via VoIP?

As Mark said in his response, yes, but they are a pain (it requires setting
up a linux box that has a modem which you run to your RTV, then you have a
job on there that picks up to see if your RTV is trying to call out, when it
does, it "answers" and makes the RTV think it connected to an ISP and then
routes the requests via broadband connection).

You may want to check to see if SunRocket, or SunRocket customers found a
solution (some claimed paying for a Fax line from Vonage helped--but others
said it didn't make a difference).


> Is Ethernet an option? (I haven't looked at the back of the thing in a
> long while...)

The older machines didn't include Ethernet (I guess this was what it was
like when people with phones that had 4-prong connectors came home with an
answering machine with an RJ-11 modular plug [I actually remember that
happening to my grand parents]... well, I guess not, they could at least go
to the Shack and get a modular base and tap into the existing wiring...).
Anonymous
June 11, 2005 4:20:30 AM

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Before hooking up to my lan, I tried to do a Replay dial-up over my VOIP
from BroadVox. Didn't work. As to WHY, I'm not sure if it was that the VOIP
service is no good for modem data, or that the format of the dialed number
was incorrect (i.e. should've dialed 1, but didn't, etc.). Don't know if the
older Replays will do LAN or not. Sorry.

-jwardl

"JustRick" <rick@[nospam]broida.com> wrote in message
news:CJSdnVU24OUHnDffRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>I was just thinking of switching to a VoIP phone service (SunRocket, FWIW)
>when it occurred to me to wonder if that would cause problems with my
>Replay (an older ShowStopper model). Is there any way to download updates
>via VoIP? Is Ethernet an option? (I haven't looked at the back of the thing
>in a long while...)
>
> TIA!
>
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Anonymous
June 11, 2005 4:20:31 AM

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 00:20:30 GMT, "jwardl" <jwardl@spamthis.com>
wrote:

>Before hooking up to my lan, I tried to do a Replay dial-up over my VOIP
>from BroadVox. Didn't work. As to WHY, I'm not sure if it was that the VOIP
>service is no good for modem data, or that the format of the dialed number
>was incorrect (i.e. should've dialed 1, but didn't, etc.). Don't know if the
>older Replays will do LAN or not. Sorry.
>
>-jwardl

The older Replays don't have ethernet, and it would be difficult to
add one. I've heard about a sutup that uses a modem on a computer to
accomplish that (the computer would have to be on), but that's not a
simple setup.

>
>"JustRick" <rick@[nospam]broida.com> wrote in message
>news:CJSdnVU24OUHnDffRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>I was just thinking of switching to a VoIP phone service (SunRocket, FWIW)
>>when it occurred to me to wonder if that would cause problems with my
>>Replay (an older ShowStopper model). Is there any way to download updates
>>via VoIP? Is Ethernet an option? (I haven't looked at the back of the thing
>>in a long while...)
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
June 11, 2005 12:46:42 PM

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Most VOIP services say "not for data"

jwardl wrote:
> Before hooking up to my lan, I tried to do a Replay dial-up over my VOIP
> from BroadVox. Didn't work. As to WHY, I'm not sure if it was that the VOIP
> service is no good for modem data, or that the format of the dialed number
> was incorrect (i.e. should've dialed 1, but didn't, etc.). Don't know if the
> older Replays will do LAN or not. Sorry.
>
> -jwardl
>
> "JustRick" <rick@[nospam]broida.com> wrote in message
> news:CJSdnVU24OUHnDffRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>
>>I was just thinking of switching to a VoIP phone service (SunRocket, FWIW)
>>when it occurred to me to wonder if that would cause problems with my
>>Replay (an older ShowStopper model). Is there any way to download updates
>>via VoIP? Is Ethernet an option? (I haven't looked at the back of the thing
>>in a long while...)
>>
>>TIA!
>>
>
>
>

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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Anonymous
June 11, 2005 1:45:47 PM

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:53:11 -0400, "Who Needs Fenders?"
<you.want.my.address@ncih.net> wrote:

>"JustRick" <rick@[nospam]broida.com> wrote in message
>news:CJSdnVU24OUHnDffRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>I was just thinking of switching to a VoIP phone service (SunRocket, FWIW)
>>when it occurred to me to wonder if that would cause problems with my
>>Replay
>
>I found out the hard way with my 3030 model when I went to Vonage... I tried
>every setting trick anyone mentioned on the Vonage forums, but I couldn't
>get it to work more than once in 200 tries over two weeks.... I finally
>caved and bought a 5580 and gave the 3030 to my parents...
>

Did they let you transfer activation from the 3030 to the 5080? I'd be
really inteerested to know if anyone's gotten that to work (and how
they did it).

>The un-offiicial response was "hey, you're paying for a Voice-quality
>connection and your ear isn't as picky about lost bits as your modem is..."

That is, they don't care about quality beyond voice quality.

>
>In the end, having the 5580 is a blessing in disguies... with DVArchive,
>I've turned an old PC and a 120-gig drive into a video server to hold all of
>my daughter's favorite movies. I record the movie to the 5580 from an
>attached DVD player, then download it to the PC and delete it from the
>ReplayTV. DVA makes the 5580 think the PC is another ReplayTv, so I can
>then stream the movies back to the 5580 while preserving space for regular
>recording...
>
>So far, I've got 10 Disney movies on the video server... makes it easy to
>accmodate my 3-yr old's movie requests--just select and play :) 
>

I'm currently transferring a large (7.5GB) file from my Replay, for
the purpose of transferring from tape to DVD. And, yes, I know this
requires NTFS.

>
>> Is there any way to download updates via VoIP?
>
>As Mark said in his response, yes, but they are a pain (it requires setting
>up a linux box that has a modem which you run to your RTV, then you have a
>job on there that picks up to see if your RTV is trying to call out, when it
>does, it "answers" and makes the RTV think it connected to an ISP and then
>routes the requests via broadband connection).
>
>You may want to check to see if SunRocket, or SunRocket customers found a
>solution (some claimed paying for a Fax line from Vonage helped--but others
>said it didn't make a difference).
>
>
>> Is Ethernet an option? (I haven't looked at the back of the thing in a
>> long while...)
>
>The older machines didn't include Ethernet (I guess this was what it was
>like when people with phones that had 4-prong connectors came home with an
>answering machine with an RJ-11 modular plug [I actually remember that
>happening to my grand parents]... well, I guess not, they could at least go
>to the Shack and get a modular base and tap into the existing wiring...).
>

And it's even worse when your phone is HARDWIRED as most older ones
were around here. I never saw a 4-prong jack in a house (although I
saw plenty of adapters in the Radio Shack catalog). I did see some
wall plates with a single hole (like a 1/4-inch headphone jack) in it,
but there was no jack there, just wiring. The house we had built in
Denton TX in 1969 was like that, they (the builder) said it was so we
COULD have jacks.

>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
June 11, 2005 3:28:57 PM

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"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
news:kotla1tn65tdo8pdgh0abrv115pro767eb@4ax.com...
> Did they let you transfer activation from the 3030 to the 5080? I'd be
> really inteerested to know if anyone's gotten that to work (and how
> they did it).

No--I decided to go monthly for now on th 5580, but get the discounted $6.95
because the 3030 is still connecting and is under my name...


>>The un-offiicial response was "hey, you're paying for a Voice-quality
>>connection and your ear isn't as picky about lost bits as your modem
>>is..."
>
> That is, they don't care about quality beyond voice quality.

Bingo...


> I'm currently transferring a large (7.5GB) file from my Replay, for
> the purpose of transferring from tape to DVD. And, yes, I know this
> requires NTFS.

Great minds think alike--we're gathering all of our home movies currently on
VHS-C to do the same thing :) 


> And it's even worse when your phone is HARDWIRED as most older ones

My parent's house was that way--the black AT&T rotory wall-phone,
hardwired... He finally got rid of that phone in 1984! (It took another 5
years for him to decide to pay the $1 touch-tone fee... ahh... push-button
"pulse" dialing... what a pain in the $#@!)
Anonymous
June 13, 2005 10:23:01 AM

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I have SunRocket and have it hooked up through my Tivo. I have a newer
system and it works great. I'm not sure how it would work with an
older replay system. I'll ask around and see if I can find anything
out. Good luck.
!