Nvidia GT-240 vs. 8800 GTS

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I Have upgraded my computer, from a Pentium 4 motherboard running XP, that had a pci-e 1.0 to a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P running Windows 7 64. I had a 8800 GTS in the old computer. According to Dacris Benchmarking 2-D was 312 MP/s & 3-D 3.14 MTps using 8x pci-e 1.0. The new MB benchmarked at 2-D 495 Mp/s & 3-D 316 Mtps. Dacris report says video too slow for processor on both systems. I bought a new GT-240 and installed in 16x slot and benchmarked at 475 MP/s & 3.14 PTps and report says video card too slow for processor. I installed the GT-240 in slot 2 Pci-e 8x slot and benchmarking says 2-D 500 MP/s & 3-D 317 MTps. How can the 8x slot be faster? The new computer is much faster and with pci-e 2.0 how can the video cards benchmarking be about the same as the old computer? Sorry for the long questions.
 
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Not sure why you need it really. The 9800GX2 is basically like running 3 GTS 240s and 3 1/2 or 4 8800GTS 320s. If they only come close to needing x8 or 8 of the 16 PCI Express lanes there is no chance either of your cards is maxing at x8..... So basically either one of the cards you mentioned would not bottleneck much or at all even in an x4 slot or 4 of the 16 lanes.

Once again I have to ask as to what CPU you have. 3.0 dual could mean a few things......hopefully not a Pentium D 830/930. If you have an E8400 ( overclocked ) you are good with pretty much anything except newest/highest priced graphics but if you have the older cpu you are limiting the card.

1. Use PassMark, 3DVantage, or 3DMark06 to benchmark your computer. Those are far better benchmarks that are better at determining the power of your hardware components...

2. Which 8800GTS is it? 320/640mb G80 version or 512mb G92 version? The GT240 performs similar to a 9600GT and will be slower than the G80s and much slower than the G92s.

 
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Only the highest end video cards use all 16 PCI express lanes. Neither the GTS240 nor the 8800GTS come even close. Also what 8800GTS did you have? If it was the 512mb version you downgraded. If it was a 640mb version you bought an identically performing card. You only upgraded if it was the 320mb one. I hope you upgraded the processor as well. Even the 8800 GTS 320 would be limited by a P4.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2521-8.html?xtmc=graphics_hierarchy&xtcr=1
 

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Thanks for the reply. I have the 320 G80 v. I did use passmark and 3DMark06. using the GT-240 16x 3DMark 9520. GT-240 8x 9476. 8800GTS 16x 9876. I have not installed the 8800 in 8x slot. Passmark seems the GT-240 faired a tiny bit better.
 
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I just reread what I posted what I said about PCI Express was not really what I was trying to say........I should have said only the highest end cards max out PCIE 1.0 and get any benefit from 2.0 . I have never heard of that benchmarking program but what CPU do you have? If you are running an old P4 you are likely limiting any of those cards. And hopefully at least 4GB of decent memory for Windows 7 x64.
 

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I have the 8800 GTS 320 & the GT-240. It seems the 8800GTS is a little faster. How would you know how many lanes these cards use?

The new computer is:

GA-EP45-UD3P, 3.0 Dual Core, PSU 500 watt, 2 WD 160=320 Raid-0 drives and 8800 GTS 320 or GT-240.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I have the 320 G80 v. I did use passmark and 3DMark06. using the GT-240 16x 3DMark 9520. GT-240 8x 9476. 8800GTS 16x 9876. I have not installed the 8800 in 8x slot. Passmark seems the GT-240 faired a tiny bit better.

I still don't understand why the GT-240 faired better in the 8x slot.

GA-EP45-UD3P, 3.0 Dual Core, 4gb Kingston 667, PSU 500 watt, 2 WD 160=320 Raid-0 drives and 8800 GTS 320 or GT-240.
 

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Thanks for your reply. I will download PCMark vantage.
 
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Not sure why you need it really. The 9800GX2 is basically like running 3 GTS 240s and 3 1/2 or 4 8800GTS 320s. If they only come close to needing x8 or 8 of the 16 PCI Express lanes there is no chance either of your cards is maxing at x8..... So basically either one of the cards you mentioned would not bottleneck much or at all even in an x4 slot or 4 of the 16 lanes.

Once again I have to ask as to what CPU you have. 3.0 dual could mean a few things......hopefully not a Pentium D 830/930. If you have an E8400 ( overclocked ) you are good with pretty much anything except newest/highest priced graphics but if you have the older cpu you are limiting the card.

 
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I always thought the older system was holding back the 8800 GTS 320 back. It's a shame that there was only a very little improvment with the new system. I have ordered some new Corsair DDR2-1066, 4gb. I will overclock when I get the new memory.

My system has: GA-EP45-UD3P - Mother board, E8400 3.0 Dual Core - CPU, Kingston 4GB DDR2-667 - Memory, PSU 500 watt, 2 WD 160=320 Raid-0 drives and 8800 GTS 320 or GT-240.

Thanks for your help.
 

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OK, I get it that these cards are slow. I have decied to keep the GT-240 untill I upgrade the video card. I have tried to overclock the 240 with software and it does not work. It seem that it is locked at default rates. Can I overclock in the bios? Thanks


GA-EP45-UD3P, E8400 3.0 Dual Core, Kingston 4GB DDR2-667, PSU 500 watt, 2 WD 160=320 Raid-0 drives and GT-240.