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hii...

i am looking fr a pc with decent gaming
for that i have chosen

amd phenom ii x4 965 processor 3.4 ghz
4 gb of ram
asus motherboard
hd 5770 card

i hrd tht 5770 has some issues like vertical lines etc ....... do u face any trouble with ur card ??? and which OS should i use i an comfortable with xp home edition


wat do u suggest ??
and with a amd processor i am choosing a cabinet which has 6 to 10 cooling fans will that be good too ???
and about the monitor i am thinking of buying a 20 inch samsung full hd monitor ,,,,, is tht supportd by the graphic card ???

i am mainly intersted to play NFS series games and gta 4 type games


pls suggst smthng about sound cards too preferably in creative
 

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If you are talking about this: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/273753-15-radeon-5770-vertical-lines-problems, never had them.

I have a 5770 (asus cucore), and had errors with "GamerOSD", and after unnistalling it and "asus smart doctor" (that depends on gamerosd, at least to be able to fully work) games start running faster. And didn't try to upgread them yet.

Right now I can play starcraft 2's demo in the higher quality, with tomb raider underworld the average FPS is 60, top is 65, but sometimes it drops to 25, but I didn't run extensive tests.

I have a Sempron 140 single core@3.6 mhz, PNY 2gb ddr3@1420 mhz (CL9, stock speed was 1333), and an asus M4A785TD-V EVO.

If you are thinking on buying Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, or if you know any want that want to, you can just get a sapphire hd 5830 that is a bit better that the 5770 and with the game at 60$ the final price will be almost the same, not sure. If not, just get an hd5770
 

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paying for the cabinet is not a problem as i have a amd lasptop and it overheats so i am going in for a cabinet that is highly efficient to keep the processor cool ........

 

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1. This config is perfect for gaming, especially if you don't play the most GPU-hungry games - and NFS series aren't the most GPU hungry games.

2. 5770 is a very good gaming card, I've never faced any trouble with it, like vertical lines, etc.

3. XP home isn't the best choice to run this config, because It has 4 GB RAM, and a 32 bit OS only supports up to 3 and something. That means that yous OS will run perfecly with this config, but it will only recognize 3 GB RAM, an you can't use the maximum amount of memory installed in your system. - my advice is to go for Windows 7 Professional 64 bit.

4. Cooling is is good, but 6 to 10 fans is a little too much.. My opinion is that 2x12cm fans are good enough to push out the cold air from you PC case. Instead of too many coolers, you should buy a better CPU heatsink, so you can push it to their limits.

5. Yes, obviously the monitor is supported by the card.. It supports resolution up to 2560*1600 - a 20 inch full HD monitor has a resolution of 1920*1080 :)

6. You can buy a discrete soundcard, but you shouldn't - I say this because a modern motherboard has an integrated 5.1 or 7.1 sound card, and this is fair enough for gaming.. Unless you'd like to use professional music editing programs with a very expensive sound system - but I suspect you will not.
 

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Cabinet:

http://www.thermaltake.com/product_info.aspx?PARENT_CID=C_00001439&id=C_00001440&name=Element+G&ov=#P_00002435

http://www.xigmatek.com/product/chassis-midgard.php#3

http://www.nzxt.com/new/product_detail.php?series_name=Crafted+Series&series=2&id=45

http://www.nox-xtreme.com/products_uk.php?cat=1&type=0&id=49

http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/chassis/scout/images/




or anything else bigger than 450x500x200, with holes to hide cables, option for top fan. For more info check:
http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/pc_airflow_heat_cooling_guide/ or http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=air+flow+benchmark+pc+
 

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thanx both of u guys L3Wy,,,lcp1109
great valuable info frm u experts there :)


but i am not still getting this abt the GPU coz my main concentration is on nfs .. so any changes thtt u guys want to suggest
 

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my pleasure ;)

About GPU, you have to search one that will work well with your monitor's resolution (1920×1080).

Go to http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/benchmarks,74.html and check all tests on that resolution. Or here http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1105/7/ . Or here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-13.html (GTA4)

Any GPU that can get more than 35 fps can handle a game. Between 130 and 150$ you cannot get anything better than an hd5770 (GTX265, 275, Hd4890 and 4870 don't have directx11: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/aliens-vs-predator-directx-11-benchmark,review-31876-8.html).


If it's important that you can play at the highest image quality (hd 5850, crossfire hd 5750... HD 5970 is the limit :) ). If money is a problem, you can try to cut on the board, on the cabinet and on the ram. where u can easily save 30-60 each, without loosing too much on quality. Phenom 955 can also help with saveing.
 

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i had checked the amd site ....... hd 5770 says they req a HD monitor and lowest size in hd monitors in 20 inches ....... i am thinking for going with a hd 5850 card ....... tht also req a hd monitor
 

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HD means not that they support only HD resolution, or they require HD monitor.. Monitors with HD are only offered to have a better gaming experience, and on the other hand the new and upcoming films have also big resolution with widescreen picture ratio.
 

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sqncdr25, I think that first you have to pick a monitor that you like and then check wich GPU will work better at the higgest resolution supported by that monitor, and to do that you just need to checking graphic charts from tomshardware or any other benchmark that compares many graphic cards.

btw, hd5750 in crossfire have better performance than an hd5850, and cost less (up to 40$ less), but your pc will be full and you will not have mutch space if you also need pci slots. If you pick 5850 in one year or too your can CF.

It's hard to say wich is the best option, that depends on how mutch you will spend, and for how long you will be playing that computer.
 

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I think so.

You will be able to play at top image quality or close without problems.

Maybe in one or two years you will need an upgread to be able to use the best video settings, and then you can CF with another 5770.

 

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A 5770 will work plenty fine for most games on HD resolution (1920x1080), just done expect to be able to turn all the shinies up.

If its within budget a 5830/5850 aren't priced TOO bad to consider, but in my opinion need a price drop.

Make sure your motherboard is crossfire capable if you plan on having dual cards in the future as well.