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February 15, 2010 11:53:13 PM

Hi,
I have spent the past 3 days going through various discussion threads with the similar problems to mine. However, I cannot still decide the build that will best suite me.

This is my first desktop build. Currently operate off a AMD turion laptop. So hoping for the best.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: End of the month
BUDGET RANGE: $1000 - 1100

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (typically RTS games; Internet)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: speakers, OS (Have win 7 ultimate)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel or AMD. ( I have gone over many articles comparing i5 750 vs an AMD X4, cannot decide if the i5 is worth the extra cash)

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Not at present

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I have a Yamaha amplifier with 5.1 paradigm speakers that I want to connect to my desktop so having a co-axial or optical out will be helpful.

The following are recommended components based on the other threads that I have read:

RAM:

Case: HAF 922 / Antec illusion

HDD: Samsung spinpoint F3

Thermal compound : Is it really needed??

Please help!!
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February 16, 2010 12:52:30 AM

For just gaming I'd suggest going AMD.

So lets see what I can come up with....

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392
(this has a coaxial audio port)
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145285

Optical:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16814150442

Monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=asus+monator&x=0&y=0

The case is a very good choice from what I've heard, but with this you might want a slightly more powerful PSU with what I've chosen.

Case and PSU combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.334087

The thermal compound will only be needed if you got an OEM cpu or HSF.

The samsung HDD you chose is going for around $55 and should be back in stock at newegg soon.

So all this together costs $965 after MIR

Can someone with a bit more experience look over this quickly? I don't want to give out bad info.
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February 16, 2010 12:01:29 PM

GPU link doesn't work and the combo is gone.

CPU: X4 955 $161
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $140
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB (or Seagate 7200.12 if not available) $55
Optical: Cheapest SATA DVD burner $25
Case/PSU: Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 750W $145 after rebate
GPU: HD 5850 $300

Total: $941. I wasn't sure if you actually needed the monitor or not. If so, Asus VH226H Black 21.5" 1920x1080 for $160 after rebate. If not, upgrade the HD 5850 to an HD 5870 and get the HAF 922 as the case.
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February 17, 2010 1:52:22 AM

Thanks for the great advice. MadAdmiral, I had read a previous post by you where you had mentioned that once above $800, it is not worth getting a AMD. Do you still feel that holds true? Also, i do need a monitor.

How much of a performance boost are we talking between a 5850 vs 5870? Also, what are your thoughts on a 5770??
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February 17, 2010 10:19:24 AM

That was before a lot of price changes. RAM prices spiked and a lot of deals went away.

The difference between the 5850 and the 5870 is that the 5870 can play Crysis on high details on 1900x resolutions and the 5850 can't.

Given the 1900x monitor, the 5770 isn't gong to be very good. It's a great card, but not very good for gaming for resolutions above 1600x.
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February 18, 2010 12:52:58 AM

That is the simplest and most informative answer. Thanks for all your help.
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February 18, 2010 12:57:35 AM

all this is great advice except that i can personaly vouch for the 5770 it is a great card. I have one and can reach 40+ fps in crysis on 1920 x 1080 on very high with aa off with aa at 2x i get around 30 fps... im afraid to go any higher...
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February 18, 2010 1:00:53 AM

Yes, the 5770 is a great card. Except that is a tad underpowered for 1900x right now. And if it's slightly underpowered right now, it will be nearing unplayable soon. For that reason, and the FPS hit when using DirectX 11, I can't recommend using it for 1900x resolutions. I would definitely get at least the HD 5850.
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February 18, 2010 1:05:46 AM

true i see what your saying but i cant see the 5850 being in his budget

I would get a 5770 now and later down the line get another for crossfire that is what i would recomend... however if you can budget out the 5850 then buy all means it is a better card get it!!! but get the xfx brand so you can overclock while being protected under a double lifetime warranty!!!
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February 18, 2010 1:22:50 AM

Look at my build above. It's in budget. Shoot, with a grand, I might be able to fit an HD 5970 in the build if I sacrificed everything else. I definitely could with $1,100.
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February 18, 2010 1:24:27 AM

a 5970 would definatly be worth it but dont creat a bottleneck with sacrafices.
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February 18, 2010 1:25:04 AM

i have that ud4 board to by the way its great
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February 20, 2010 12:36:59 AM

I was in the process of ordering the above system, however when I was reading the reviews of the memory it seems it is not compatible with AMD. I wanted to know how difficult is it to configure it for this motherboard?
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February 20, 2010 12:45:51 AM

G. Skill RAM is definitely compatible with AMD mobos. What reviews are you reading?
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February 20, 2010 6:32:15 PM

Probably the Newegg ones. Newegg user reviews are mostly written by people who are only a couple of brain cells smarter than monkeys and shouldn't be allowed near technology. The sticks may need to be set to the exact manufacturer specs, but so will many, many other sticks.
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February 25, 2010 3:31:43 PM

OK almost done with ordering. Went with the HAF 922 + HD5870. Please suggest a good PSU. I was thinking of getting
OCZ stealthXstream 700W http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Its in combo with XFX HD5870 XXX edition saing me $50.

Kindly comment if this is a good PSU and is it adequate for the machine.
Thanks
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February 25, 2010 4:20:23 PM

OK almost done with ordering. Went with the HAF 922 + HD5870. Please suggest a good PSU. I was thinking of getting
OCZ stealthXstream 700W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.325931

Its in combo with XFX HD5870 XXX edition saing me $50.

Kindly comment if this is a good PSU and is it adequate for the machine.
Thanks
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March 7, 2010 12:34:48 AM

Best answer selected by conkydoc.
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