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February 16, 2010 2:27:56 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Hopefully by the end of March BUDGET RANGE: Up to $750, would like cheaper but max of $750.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Games: WoW, RS, Oblivion,etc. Surfing internet, watching movies.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States

PARTS PREFERENCES: ATI GPU, Would prefer Intel CPU but have heard AMD may be better for cheaper builds like mine.

OVERCLOCKING: TBH, I have no idea what overclocking is OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1440x900

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Pre-installed Windows would be very nice, but I realize that probably isn't likely. IF possible, I would like an OS to be included in the $750, but it it would effect performance by using cheaper parts, forget that.

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February 16, 2010 3:27:36 AM

Yes for cheaper builds, AMD is the way to go as you can save on the CPU as well as the mobo...
Here is a config -
CPU - Any of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

RAM -4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card - HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASES -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

PSU - These can handle even upto a single HD 5870...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - Samsung F3 500GB/ Seagate 7200.12 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do look out for combos when you buy...right now linking combos wont be useful as they might not be available when you actually buy the parts as they keep changing...So before you make your purchase, post once again so that we could find good combos that would save money...
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February 16, 2010 4:01:10 AM

l like that build...a lot. $730 and I get pretty much everything I asked for and everything I need.

I don't wanna say solved just yet. I wanna see what else is out there and if anyone can improve on any of that. :p 
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February 16, 2010 4:06:46 AM

^ Lolz...you can keep this thread active until you actually buy the components so that you can people can post good deals and other suggestions...

And as for Overclocking - It is increasing the CPU's speed to gain more performance...but you have to be careful though not to overdo it...
And it would require a bit of learning but is fun ;) 
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February 16, 2010 4:12:09 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Lolz...you can keep this thread active until you actually buy the components so that you can people can post good deals and other suggestions...

And as for Overclocking - It is increasing the CPU's speed to gain more performance...but you have to be careful though not to overdo it...
And it would require a bit of learning but is fun ;) 


You must have the ability to read minds.. I was literally JUST asking a friend what overclocking was.

I'd go ahead and get this if the OS magically came for free!
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February 16, 2010 4:17:20 AM

^ Well if you are a student or know any college student, then you can get the WIN 7 for less...Was about $30 before but not sure how much it is now...
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February 16, 2010 4:22:06 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Well if you are a student or know any college student, then you can get the WIN 7 for less...Was about $30 before but not sure how much it is now...


They've only got the Win7 Prof UPGRADE for $65 atm. Hopefully they will sell the Full version again soon.
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February 16, 2010 4:28:01 AM

^ Hmmm you still have time before you buy...So things should get sorted out by then...
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February 16, 2010 4:31:20 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Hmmm you still have time before you buy...So things should get sorted out by then...


That's what I'm hoping.

Oh, a real question..

Windows 7 64-bit.. would it ever be worth it to get more than 4GB ram? I have heard people say they got a huge performance boost by doubling and I have heard people say they only noticed minimal performance.

Also, 32-bit or 64-bit for gaming? The only tests I have seen were with 64-bit.
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February 16, 2010 4:37:20 AM

64-bit is the way to...
Even for using full 4GB of RAM and the vRAM from the graphics card, you would need a 64-bit OS...
Also there are no major incompatibility issues with apps and games with WIN 7, that plagued the Win XP...
As for getting more than 4GB of RAM, it depends on what you will be doing with the PC...
For gaming, there are no significant improvements with RAM over 4GB...but in tasks such as PRO image rendering, editing and stuffs, more the RAM the better, where people generally work with single large files, that take up a lot of RAM...
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February 16, 2010 4:40:27 AM

gkay09 said:
64-bit is the way to...
Even for using full 4GB of RAM and the vRAM from the graphics card, you would need a 64-bit OS...
Also there are no major incompatibility issues with apps and games with WIN 7, that plagued the Win XP...
As for getting more than 4GB of RAM, it depends on what you will be doing with the PC...
For gaming, there are no significant improvements with RAM over 4GB...but in tasks such as PRO image rendering, editing and stuffs, more the RAM the better, where people generally work with single large files, that take up a lot of RAM...



Ohhh kay. Thanks so much! Last question deals with when to buy...

Should I go ahead and buy this or wait to see if MS will have another Win7 deal while keeping my eyes open for other deals to go with this build?

And once that is answered, I will be out of questions....for tonight! :non: 
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February 16, 2010 5:18:04 AM

Well deals keep changing and also you can expect the components prices to move southwards only so if you are not in a hurry to buy the components, the I would suggest you to wait...And also ATI will be launching the HD 5830, that will be as powerful as the HD 4890 and is DirectX 11...It will fall in the $200 range and might be you will be able to squeeze that into your build with the combo deals from newegg...
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February 17, 2010 2:48:27 AM

Ooooooo, any idea when that is coming out? If the wait is long enough, I may be able to bump up my budget a bit, although, for the games I play, I probably shouldn't XD
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February 17, 2010 3:30:38 AM

Just read a review on here comparing the 5770 and the 4870. It looks like I would be better off getting the 4870.

Are there any other alternatives I should look at? I'd be willing to spend a bit more if it meant better performance. (I am not talking a huge amount to add. If it meant getting the next highest "level" GPU for not too much more, then yea.)

Hell, maybe I should just get the 5870. lol
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February 17, 2010 4:06:38 PM

I have decided I will start ordering parts. Not going to order all at once. However, before I order ANYTHING, I want to get some feedback on this build:

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February 18, 2010 3:42:31 AM

^ Well dont get that 5770 with the Closed cooler...get the open cooler type...

And mobo - Certainly this one for $10 more...Dint notice it before...
GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ->With SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And if you are willing to spend more on any components, then the graphics card would get the vote...
For your resolution, the HD 5870 is an overkill...the HD 5830 would be the best option...And you can expect it to launch by Feb-End or latest by March...
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February 18, 2010 4:26:29 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Well dont get that 5770 with the Closed cooler...get the open cooler type...

And mobo - Certainly this one for $10 more...Dint notice it before...
GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ->With SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And if you are willing to spend more on any components, then the graphics card would get the vote...
For your resolution, the HD 5870 is an overkill...the HD 5830 would be the best option...And you can expect it to launch by Feb-End or latest by March...


Aww..missed your post by literally maybe 10 minutes. I ordered the case and mobo! :( 

Is that a big deal? I am thinking not too much.
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February 18, 2010 5:27:49 AM

Well that mobo has USB 3.0 ans SATA 6GB/s inbuilt, that would have been good if you will be keeping the mobo for say about 2-3 years as by then USB3.0/ SATA 6GB/s would be widespread...But now its not an issue though...you can always use add-on cards to get those...

Yes that is the card type...And dont miss the free game
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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February 18, 2010 1:12:08 PM

I have ordered the....
-Case
-PSU
-RAM
-MoBo

So I am still somewhat open to ideas on the GPU, CPU, and HDD. I have decided to get a 1TB Seagate HDD. The GPU and CPU are the ones in the above pic.


I forgot the mention it earlier, but I do need a decent cd drive/burner.
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February 18, 2010 1:12:24 PM

Best answer selected by pinnacle2009.
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February 19, 2010 2:09:50 AM
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