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Building New PC for long term use (at least 4 years)

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February 16, 2010 8:14:56 PM

Hi my laptop recently died and so being frustrated with the inability to replace parts on a laptop I have decided to replace it with a newly built PC. Here is the build I had in mind, i wanted it to be expandable for the future that it why i have chosen such a powerful PSU and crossfire enabled motherboard.

Case: ThermalTake Element T Case
PSU: Antec True Power New 550W Power Supply w/ Quad +12V, 120mm Fan
Display: BenQ G2412HD 23.6in Widescreen LCD w/ HDMI, 16:9, 2ms
CPU: Intel Core™ i3 Processor 540 3.06GHz w/ 4MB Cache, HD Graphics
Optical: LG Super-Multi Security 22x DVD Writer, SATA, Black (OEM)
HDD: Hitachi 1TB Deskstar HD31000 IDK/7K SATA II w/ 32MB Cache
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3R w/ Dual DDR3 2200, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, PCI-E, CrossFireX
RAM: Mushkin HP3-12800 High Performance DDR3 SDRAM, 4GB Dual Channel Kit (2 x 2G)
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort


My main question that I am facing right now is whether or not to pay $200 extra for a Intel 1366 build since it would support future processors ( correct me if I'm wrong here). Also would I be able to in the future add in a USB 3.0 card on the motherboard I chose?


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: before the end of the month
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Movie, games, internet, homework

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: would like to stick with local stores ( i live in Edmonton) like memory express or BCOM
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: No preference but screen has to be bigger than 23" (or maybe two small dual screens?)

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080 and up

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: would be nice if PC were quiet



Thanx for any help
February 16, 2010 8:19:42 PM

Budget?

Also depending on the budget you might want to go with an AMD build. As far as spending the extra money for the 17-920 I do not really think you will need it with the usage that you listed.
February 16, 2010 8:25:47 PM

budget is max $1300 CAD or about $1246 American dollars.

The reason I was thinking about getting an Intel 1366 Board is that I've heard there more future proof. Keep in mind that I plan to uprade the CPU, add in another GPU and up the RAM once I have enough cash and need the extra performance.
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February 16, 2010 8:35:08 PM

At that budget, if you want future-proof, go with an AM3 build. i7-920 builds only start to make sense once your budget is above $1500.
February 16, 2010 8:45:20 PM

Try this out see if you like. I used Newegg CA so if you use stores might have to check out prices there.

Sony Optiarc Black 29

Antec Three Hundred Illusion 90

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 100

Hanns·G HH-241HPB Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 190

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO 135

HD5850 299

Antec Earth Watts 650 90

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 124

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition

Hyper 212 Plus 30

No I am assuming it is listed in Canadian and not switching prices over to US dollars. if so it comes in at 1265 Canadian. And if you wanted to spend a little more I think I would probably get a slightly bigger PSU if you are going to OC and Xfire in the future.
February 16, 2010 9:14:50 PM

I wasn't sure whether or not to go with AMD but for the PSU I think the Antec Earth Watts 650 is probably a better choice for me.

I don't understand why you recommended the ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO won't it be bottlenecked by the 4x PCI slot?
February 16, 2010 9:26:50 PM

Sorry I pasted the wrong one. this one is the one I meant to suggest.

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX For 145
And it really only matters if you plan on X-Fire. You could even go a little bit Higher on the price and get a Dual x16 board but the price jump is pretty steep for 4% increase in performance.
February 16, 2010 9:55:19 PM

only 4% even with dual 5770? Is it a lot more for 5850? ( I am considering speending the extra $120 and going for this card instead)
February 16, 2010 11:08:05 PM

I just built my new rig to future proof and i built with the following...

Gigabite am3 board ( with sata 3.0 and usb 3.0 support for upgrading)
a Phenom2 x4 3.0ghz deneb processor
adata ddr3 1600 ram (4 gigs)
a velociraptor hdd
a hd5770 graphics card ( i went with xfx for the double warranty!)
and a thermaltake evo blue 650w power supply!!

That should last me 4 years give or take..
February 17, 2010 1:33:04 AM

The only thing I would avoid in your build is the Hitachi hard drive.
I'd stick with a Seagate or Western Digital, for reliability.
February 17, 2010 1:40:26 AM

Western digital all the way!!!
February 17, 2010 11:55:11 AM

sinbad123 said:
only 4% even with dual 5770? Is it a lot more for 5850? ( I am considering speending the extra $120 and going for this card instead)



Pretty much around 4% all the way around. I would suggest getting the 5850 if you can afford it thats one of the reasons I put it in the build I suggested (Eventhough I linked the wrong mobo).

The problem you get with Gigabyte boards is if you X-Fire you lose the USB3 they will only work at normal speeds. Not sure how worried about that you are but just wanted to point that out. the Asus boards do not do that.
February 17, 2010 3:28:39 PM

osu43130 said:
Pretty much around 4% all the way around. I would suggest getting the 5850 if you can afford it thats one of the reasons I put it in the build I suggested (Eventhough I linked the wrong mobo).

The problem you get with Gigabyte boards is if you X-Fire you lose the USB3 they will only work at normal speeds. Not sure how worried about that you are but just wanted to point that out. the Asus boards do not do that.



The x fire issue in reference to the usb 3.0 was solved with the ud4 version however you loose crosfire speed from 16x to dual 8x (not much of a difference if you ask me) but that is it usb still registers as 3.0 on my board
February 18, 2010 1:43:14 AM

Alright so i have taken all suggestions and have changed some things:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Quad-Core Black Edition 3.2GHz
Motherboard: Asus M4A78T-E w/ Radeon HD 3300
Case: ThermalTake Element T Case
RAM: Kingston ValueRAM 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 2GB)
HDD: Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12 SATA II w/ 32MB Cache
Optical: Samsung SH-S222A 22x SpeedPlus™ DVD-Write, IDE, Black, OEM
Video: Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA 750W Power Supply w/ Quad +12V
Display: Samsung SyncMaster 2494SW 24in Widescreen LCD w/ DVI, 5ms, 16:9, Black

So what do you guys think? I plan on adding a second 5770 in the future and another HDD along with some more ram, will the PSU be enough? And is the Antec earth watts a quality PSU? Also is this board good with usb 3.0?


thanks for all the help so far
February 18, 2010 1:48:20 AM

would defiantly not have gone with asus but that is my preference...
the gigabite boards are reinforced with 2 ounces of copper which makes them more sturdy and helps with cooling.. also gigabite has a way better customer support program than asus. Like i have said before asus used to be the best... they have seriously gone down hill recently!! other than that looks good
February 18, 2010 4:36:38 PM

Antec Earth Watts is a quality PSU will be alright with that PSU.
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