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February 17, 2010 1:10:54 AM

My friend has recently contacted me about his new, well, computer.
He has a $6,000 budget.
He has never built a computer before, and i was wondering how daunting it would be for him to build one like this. Watercooling, multiple GPUS and such, how easy is this for a first time build.

Also, i will not be able to help him. Is it possible for him to do, and if so, whats some good hardware out there (Budget Box myself). If not, what are the good prebuilts?

EDIT: Also will need a monitor (or 4), keyboard, and he wants a Razer Naga
Thanks in Advance
~Flavoi

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February 17, 2010 1:19:01 AM

Holy Crap...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That can make a sweet rig !!
go ssd for your main drive

I would say go asus with your mobo but they kinda went downhill lately so i would go with gigabite!!!

I Prefer amd over intel so i would go with a Phenom black edition

and deffinatly go with ddr3 ram clocked at 1600

go with 2 hd5970's in crossfire

and get a thermaltake psu!!!

go blue ray ...

I could go on because if i had that much to spend on a rig i would be soooooooooo happy!!!!
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February 17, 2010 1:42:55 AM

darkjuggalo2000 said:
Holy Crap...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go ssd for your main drive

Planned on it

darkjuggalo2000 said:
I would say go asus with your mobo but they kinda went downhill lately so i would go with gigabite!!!

Ok, any good models out there?

darkjuggalo2000 said:
I Prefer amd over intel so i would go with a Phenom black edition

AMD FTW

darkjuggalo2000 said:
and deffinatly go with ddr3 ram clocked at 1600

I would think 8 gb is enough, according to that one Lifehacker post.

darkjuggalo2000 said:
go with 2 hd5970's in crossfire

Only 2 :p 

darkjuggalo2000 said:
and get a thermaltake psu!!!

I wouldnt have though of that, i would have said Corsair

darkjuggalo2000 said:
go blue ray ...

Maybe. He has a PS3, so i will ask

darkjuggalo2000 said:
I could go on because if i had that much to spend on a rig i would be soooooooooo happy!!!!

Me too.

My main question, can he handle it, with water cooling and all?
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February 17, 2010 1:44:52 AM

( My main question, can he handle it, with water cooling and all?)

That would all depend on him, how much time he has to read up on his end goal and how to do it in a fun way that he doesn't get frustrated to the point he dont even want to deal with it anymore.


I would say stay away from the water cooling for now and just get the PC up and running

You can still OC well with a good air cooled HSF
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February 17, 2010 1:45:50 AM

Niklas_13 said:
My main question, can he handle it, with water cooling and all?

Sounds familiar...
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February 17, 2010 1:47:45 AM

Niklas_13 said:
My main question, can he handle it, with water cooling and all?


Its his first build, i would say no.

And at that price range, there is no reason not to go intel. As much as i like AMD, if you have the money to wipe your ass with, intel is better then AMD lol.
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February 17, 2010 1:48:44 AM

Truhls said:
Its his first build, i would say no.

And at that price range, there is no reason not to go intel. As much as i like AMD, if you have the money to wipe your ass with, intel is better then AMD lol.

Ok. Then what are some good premades?
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February 17, 2010 1:52:39 AM

Truhls said:
Its his first build, i would say no.

And at that price range, there is no reason not to go intel. As much as i like AMD, if you have the money to wipe your ass with, intel is better then AMD lol.


Yeah somehow it posted without me being done

anyways i edited i would stay away from water cooling

start out small maybe 1 GPU and work up from there

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February 17, 2010 1:53:51 AM

oooooh never put water cool in your system that is just a bad idea water+electronics = bad idea!!!! people do it i will never

I have 2 vantec tornados wich are great but only if you can stand the noise!!!
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February 17, 2010 1:54:25 AM

Niklas_13 said:
Yeah somehow it posted without me being done

anyways i edited i would stay away from water cooling

start out small maybe 1 GPU and work up from there

Didn't think about that, so maybe add WC later, making sure the case has the holes.

EDIT: Anyone have any fantastic builds? I am used to budget, and not this, erm, Price range
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February 17, 2010 1:54:42 AM

google started smoking when i typed in 6000.00 PC lol :) 
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February 17, 2010 1:56:19 AM

flavoi said:
Didn't think about that, so maybe add WC later, making sure the case has the holes.


Yeah get a good case that you have room to grow,

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February 17, 2010 1:57:00 AM

the antec 900 is a good case
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February 17, 2010 2:00:59 AM

First, tell your friend to wind his ROLEX and roll up the windows on his Beemer!

Second, inform your friend that I only charge $1000 to spec out a $5k system, so he will stay well within budget ... I will build it for him, for another grand.

Dark Giggilo gave good advice, but I think I *might have* some even better advice ... I feel almost certain that he will chime-in, and let us know if he agrees ... call me pschic ... just don't call me "Shirley" (I jest).

So, without going into the logic of "tried and true" or "single vendor sourcing", I will just throw some links at you (fellers).

http://www.evga.com/articles/00501/

Aw, screw it, that is the only link I'm giving him (for free) ...

Just know that you will want a quality, full-tower case, several of which provide punch-outs (case holes) for liquid cooling hose/lines. That should be attainable, at newegg, searching on Cases>>ATX>>Full Tower >>> Sort price from "highest to lowest" .

Also, the choice is really 3-way SLI or 4-way (the PSU must be exactly right, for a 4-way and the EVGA cobos/kits will help you match up a case & PSU.

I recommend LCD-HDTVs, as monitors ... 32" 120-240Hz 3D ready 1080P ... much more bang-fer-the-bux ... look for analog audio out, too.

Does he wanna do simulations? Shooters? Fantasy? Poker?

The gaming controls are dependent on apps ...

Also, for that money, he may wish to velcro a PS3 and an X-Box onto the sides of his system unit, as an adjunct to compatibility.

A 12 channel, analog (stereo) audio mixer board would help manage all the varios audio ...

I have two KRK RP8s and an S10(woofer) powered studio monitors, hooked up to my studio output mixer.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/KRK-Rokit-Powered-8-Generat...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Mackie-CFX12-mkII-Mixer-103...

=Al=
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February 17, 2010 2:06:12 AM

Alvin Smith said:
First, tell your friend to wind his ROLEX and roll up the windows on his Beemer!

Second, inform your friend that I only charge $1000 to spec out a $5k system, so he will stay well within budget ... I will build it for him, for another grand.

Dark Giggilo gave good advice, but I think I *might have* some even better advice ... I feel almost certain that he will chime-in, and let us know if he agrees ... call me pschic ... just don't call me "Shirley" (I jest).

So, without going into the logic of "tried and true" or "single vendor sourcing", I will just throw some links at you (fellers).

http://www.evga.com/articles/00501/

Aw, screw it, that is the only link I'm giving him (for free) ...

Just know that you will want a quality, full-tower case, several of which provide punch-outs (case holes) for liquid cooling hose/lines. That should be attainable, at newegg, searching on Cases>>ATX>>Full Tower >>> Sort price from "highest to lowest" .

Also, the choice is really 3-way SLI or 4-way (the PSU must be exactly right, for a 4-way and the EVGA cobos/kits will help you match up a case & PSU.

I recommend LCD-HDTVs, as monitors ... 32" 120-240Hz 3D ready 1080P ... much more bang-fer-the-bux ... look for analog audio out, too.

Does he wanna do simulations? Shooters? Fantasy? Poker?

The gaming controls are dependent on apps ...

Also, for that money, he may wish to velcro a PS3 and an X-Box onto the sides of his system unit, as an adjunct to compatibility.

A 12 channel, analog (stereo) audio mixer board would help manage all the varios audio ...

I have two KRK RP8s and an S10(woofer) powered studio monitors, hooked up to my studio output mixer.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/KRK-Rokit-Powered-8-Generat...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Mackie-CFX12-mkII-Mixer-103...

=Al=

He said something about Chess....

Anyways, would the linked motherboards fit into the 900? it says some modifications may be required, and, well, being his first build he might not be able to do that.
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February 17, 2010 2:08:12 AM

That is funny lol

wow....

Deffinatly go with "tried and true" equiptment

Read reviews get some good combonations brainstorm


if you go amd, get ati

if you go intel, get nvidia

with that much money you can do what ever the hell you want

if you go with an amd / ati rig you can put more money into ssd space and some movie theater monitor or something some built in 15 inch subs or something definatly go with an lcd monitor they are high end because the look AMAZING!!!!! (and the rest of us cant afford them) (or ssd for that matter)
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February 17, 2010 2:14:04 AM

Jeeesh !!! Give a bunch of poor, lustful G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) dweebs a big box of money and they all go ber-zerk! (like Billy Jack!) ...

... I thought there were only 3 people on this forum, tonite, and look at all the lurkers that spring from the woodwork ! ... Obama should give some of that stimulus money to US !!! ... we know 'zactly what to do with it.

Just tell yer Pal to "Buy a whole bunch of the most expensive crap, at newegg, and cobble it together and, if no workie, then buy a whole bunch more crap and cobble some more. Sell the left-overs on eBay, but tell me before he does". (end quote).

=belch=
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February 17, 2010 2:17:22 AM

Alvin Smith said:
Jeeesh !!! Give a bunch of poor, lustful G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) dweebs a big box of money and they all go ber-zerk! (like Billy Jack!) ...

... I thought there were only 3 people on this forum, tonite, and look at all the lurkers that spring from the woodwork ! ... Obama should give some of that stimulus money to US !!! ... we know 'zactly what to do with it.

Just tell yer Pal to "Buy a whole bunch of the most expensive crap, at newegg, and cobble it together and, if no workie, then buy a whole bunch more crap and cobble some more. Sell the left-overs on eBay, but tell me before he does". (end quote).

=belch=

"I got 4 cases, and when i tried to put them together, they got stuck. Say, let me buy you a plane ticket and you can come help me!"

Well... I will tell him to pick a bunch of pretty/shinny/expensive stuff from Newegg. Any more "Get X not Y" ?
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February 17, 2010 2:17:58 AM

flavoi said:
He said something about Chess....

Anyways, would the linked motherboards fit into the 900? it says some modifications may be required, and, well, being his first build he might not be able to do that.



Well, the 4-way "Classified" board is definately E-ATX (requires an extended case) ... there are cases that work, to be sure, but I would find out where the "official" Classified forum is and, ask folks what they have built ... my experience is that they may just want to boast of their obvious bling and prowess. Just a guess.

=Urrrrp=
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February 17, 2010 2:31:32 AM

Well, I would like some links or ideas on a PSU. (and the rest of the parts, for that matter)

Also, it turns out this will be a "gift", so he gets on chance at "buying" the parts. Bummer...
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February 17, 2010 2:37:50 AM

darkjuggalo2000 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

here you go throw all your expensive crap in this it should hold it all (i think)lol hey tell your friend to throw me $1000 dollars and i will build him a sweet rig!!!

This?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

This is nice, saves me some work.

Cant figure out why there are 2 Blu Ray burners though... Pirate Ready?

EDIT: Done for the night, ill send this link to him and tell him its an option.
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February 17, 2010 2:40:12 AM

Now all you need is a giant monitor
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February 17, 2010 2:44:54 AM

deffinatly you could run them in eyefinity that would be insane
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February 17, 2010 3:07:08 AM

No offense but you're really wasting money.

How about a 2000$ rig and a River Rafting trip? :) 
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February 17, 2010 3:26:41 AM

lets see if we can hit 6000 K





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Pick out some nice KB Mouse and Speakers your at 6K



Its up to you and i have no say in how to spend someone else money they work for but a nice 2500 PC would be IMO a better buy
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February 17, 2010 3:28:19 AM

Try this out. I'll leave a little room at the end for shipping & tax, as I have no desire to calculate that right now. Also not going to bother with combos, as if you want to spend the time, you can, but it's only going to shave off around $100 total, in all likelihood. Not all facts checked. It's late. Do not taunt Super Happy Fun Ball.

And as an aside, about something that was said earlier, there's no reason that you have to stick with AMD if you want an ATI card, or vice versa with Intel/nVidia.

3x Dell U2410 1900x1200 in portrait mode $539 x 3 = $1617 - run in Eyefinity (or pick your favorite 3 monitors from this thread ).
1x powered Displayport adapter - $90
CPU - i7-920 - $290 - get this now and jump to a hexa core when they're released. Or something.
CPU cooler - Scythe Mugen 2 - $35
Mobo - ASUS P6T7 Supercomputer - $400
RAM - 2x Mushkin Enhanced Redline CAS 6 1600 MHz kits - $250 x 2 = $500 for 12 GB
GPU - 2x XFX 5970 - 2x $729 = $1454
Main drive - Intel X25-M Retail kit - $600
Additional drives - 1x Samsung Spinpoint F3 2 TB - $180
Optical drive - LG Blu-ray burner - $180
PSU - OCZ 80 Plus Gold 1000W power supply - $300 (or $270 after MIR)
Case - HAF 932 - $160
OS - Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $105

Total - $5911

Hmm. Looks like that might be a little over budget, after tax & shipping & keyboard/mouse/speakers. Oh well.

Other options: Add 3 more 2 TB drives and a RAID card for a 4 TB RAID 0 array.
Add an nVidia card for PhysX.
Remove one of the 5970s, it's probably overkill anyway.
Stay at 6 GB RAM, he doesn't really need 12 GB.
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February 17, 2010 3:57:06 AM

Truhls said:
he should get that newer MOBO that is the size of a large pizza box, it holds like 64 gigs of ram and i think 2 cpus? or 4? lol

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17204/37/

FOund the link lol


O M G ! ! ! ROTFLOLACAOMAGAST
(rollingonthefloorlaughingoutloud&crappingonmyself&gagging&spittingtoo)
"Fetch" is never going to happen!

That link is way too funny !!! Who has one of those? Who? how many did they make? Worx?

= dang! =
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February 17, 2010 4:03:01 AM

darkjuggalo2000 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

here you go throw all your expensive crap in this it should hold it all (i think)lol hey tell your friend to throw me $1000 dollars and i will build him a sweet rig!!!



"Lo-Jugs",
I do love the looks of that case ... but I would much rather have a 256GB Vertex drive (same $$)

yeah ... it looks like the battery pack to my portable laser cannon (Hasbro).

= Chipmunk = Sorry ... not my password.


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February 17, 2010 2:00:21 PM

well IMO i would wait for gulftown six cores to really put $6k to good use.

and to really splurge ill put 2 NEC 26 inchers , on a quad SLI(radeon 5 series gves better performance for the same price nvidia 200 series.)

and ill put ocz or corsair dominator ddr3 memoru 2200mhz

u shud get cm stacker 830 for this built.

as for prebuilts go for alienware for 6000$ ull have a whole planet lol.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/desktop-gaming/alien...

may be this cud hlp ya.
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February 17, 2010 2:47:53 PM

aby geek said:
well IMO i would wait for gulftown six cores to really put $6k to good use.

and to really splurge ill put 2 NEC 26 inchers , on a quad SLI(radeon 5 series gves better performance for the same price nvidia 200 series.)

and ill put ocz or corsair dominator ddr3 memoru 2200mhz

u shud get cm stacker 830 for this built.

as for prebuilts go for alienware for 6000$ ull have a whole planet lol.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/desktop-gaming/alien...

may be this cud hlp ya.


LOL Alienware? Seriously? you get like 2k worth of parts for a 6k system with alienware.
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February 17, 2010 3:20:34 PM

Alvin Smith said:
"Lo-Jugs",
I do love the looks of that case ... but I would much rather have a 256GB Vertex drive (same $$)

yeah ... it looks like the battery pack to my portable laser cannon (Hasbro).

= Chipmunk = Sorry ... not my password.



lol yea either or
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February 19, 2010 1:32:52 PM

Dude, I really have to say this... 6,000 DOLLARS IS A HELL LOT TO SPEND ON COMPUTERS!!!!!!!

Seriously, you can just go into a store and say "You, yea YOU! GET ME WHATEVER'S THE BEST, I WANT IT ALL" and have no problem affording it, hah!

Well, if what your friend want is to enjoy the process of building the computer, custom build it is certainly a great idea, but with his budget, he could afford a decent Alienware desktop gaming computer. But I really wouldn't suggest that, Alienware sure looks sharp to cool, it's like those stuff where when your friend sees it, they go "OMG!", but it's really not worth the price...

But anyways, if it was me, here's what I'd build

CASE: Corsair Obisdian 800D (If you could wait for the 700D to become official, even better!)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Rampage II Extreme

CPU: Intel Core i7-975 Extreme Edition

(It'd be good if you purchased a Artic Silver 5 thermal compound, but it's optional)

CPU COOLER: Corsair H50 (Yes it is watercool, but it's a closed-loop and no maintain is needed.

MEMORY: Corsair Dominator GT (3 x 2GB, CAS Timing 7)

GRAPHICS CARD: ASUS ATi Radeon 5970 x 2

HARD DISK DRIVE: Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB x 2 in RAID 0 Configuration

OPTICAL DRIVE: LG Blu-Ray Combo with LightScribe

POWER SUPPLY UNIT: OCZ Z Series 1000Watt 80-Plus GOLD Certified Modular Power Supply

That brings you down to about USD$4,200, and with the extra money, go ahead and get 3 monitors, a set of gaming essentials (Gaming Headset, Gaming Keyboard, Gaming Mouse, Gaming WHATEVER! =D), and maybe you'll still have some spare money for a GAMING DESK!

Hope I helped a bit here~

AlexCheng
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February 19, 2010 1:59:57 PM

you have a hard on for corsair and you get an OCZ PSU Instead? lol
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February 19, 2010 5:28:29 PM

alexcheng said:
Dude, I really have to say this... 6,000 DOLLARS IS A HELL LOT TO SPEND ON COMPUTERS!!!!!!!

Seriously, you can just go into a store and say "You, yea YOU! GET ME WHATEVER'S THE BEST, I WANT IT ALL" and have no problem affording it, hah!

Well, if what your friend want is to enjoy the process of building the computer, custom build it is certainly a great idea, but with his budget, he could afford a decent Alienware desktop gaming computer. But I really wouldn't suggest that, Alienware sure looks sharp to cool, it's like those stuff where when your friend sees it, they go "OMG!", but it's really not worth the price...

But anyways, if it was me, here's what I'd build

CASE: Corsair Obisdian 800D (If you could wait for the 700D to become official, even better!)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Rampage II Extreme

CPU: Intel Core i7-975 Extreme Edition

(It'd be good if you purchased a Artic Silver 5 thermal compound, but it's optional)

CPU COOLER: Corsair H50 (Yes it is watercool, but it's a closed-loop and no maintain is needed.

MEMORY: Corsair Dominator GT (3 x 2GB, CAS Timing 7)

GRAPHICS CARD: ASUS ATi Radeon 5970 x 2

HARD DISK DRIVE: Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB x 2 in RAID 0 Configuration

OPTICAL DRIVE: LG Blu-Ray Combo with LightScribe

POWER SUPPLY UNIT: OCZ Z Series 1000Watt 80-Plus GOLD Certified Modular Power Supply

That brings you down to about USD$4,200, and with the extra money, go ahead and get 3 monitors, a set of gaming essentials (Gaming Headset, Gaming Keyboard, Gaming Mouse, Gaming WHATEVER! =D), and maybe you'll still have some spare money for a GAMING DESK!

Hope I helped a bit here~

AlexCheng


man you really like asus....


I would not recomend the asus graphics card i would go with xfx for the double lifetime warranty that supports overclock!!!!
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February 19, 2010 6:41:39 PM

@Flavoi

Y dont u talk your friend into using logic? Why build a $6,000 computer which in reality will give no difference in experience from a nice basic build? Pocket the $4000 for upgrades cause i can guarantee in a couple months the computer will be obsolete.

Cpu: i7 920
Mobo: Something nice (EVGA Classified/Rampage II (or III when it comes)
Ram: Corsair Dom.
GPU: 1** HD5870 (will play everything with room to spare)
HD: SSD plus a 1TB storage
PSU: Corsair HX850 great PSU that beats most stuff out there

Get a nice monitor thats IPS if u wish, but that depends if ur friend wants to spend $500 for a higher quality monitor compared to crap TNs.
If ud like other nice peripherals, u can look at AudioTechnica AD700s with a clip on mic for Audio (yes, it beats "gaming" headsets. Plus its a good audiophile set of headphones), a nice mouse, mechanical keyboard (just google it (ppl like elitekeyboards.com, Deck Keyboards)....they're better than rubber domes.

Skip H2O. U need to make sure its right and keep it maintained. Not something for a first timer to do.

@darkjuggalo: H2O is by all means safe if done correctly. Leak testing removes most problems and distilled water (which is always used...) is not conductive. Its the impurities that make it conductive. If theres a leak, u shut down the rig and let the stuff air dry.
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February 19, 2010 9:25:01 PM

If he has never built a pc before I dont think he should work on such expensive equipment. He should consider ordering from a custom pc company. I wouldnt suggest Alienware. Digital Storm seems to make some nice machines. i7 destroys AMD so if you are spending over 1500 which he is then it only makes sense to go i7. dual 5970's seems like overkill to me but what do I know. a ssd boot drive is highly recommended as well.
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=...
my suggestion is take that setup, change boot drive to ssd, add a 2nd hdd of 1tb or 1.5tb, possibly change mobo. it has a 960 which you could drop to a 920 and save $333. maybe change psu to corsair
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February 20, 2010 12:48:47 PM

truhls said even alienware is not wrth that much money, so i think the same as others have already said ,thats too much money for a newbie to play with.

i would rather buy a large tv and ps3 to enjoy games.
or buy a 1000$ system and spend the rest for a good animation course and required applications.
i could even buy a wacom cintique and still have lots dough left .

if u still want tech spechs then ill repeat myself , if u r going for core i7 920 , then wait till feb 28 for the 930 , if ur going for any thing above 920 thn wait for core i7 980 XE six core coming march 16. it will be $999 but your budget is can handle many like these :)  the 930 will be $284 so no point going for the 920.

both these cpu have 130 TDP ,and tripple channel 1066 ddr3,.
the 980 XE will have unlocked multiplier.

another 6 core 980 XE's younger bro 970 will be available for $562 in Q3 2010.

i think waiting for these is wise cause i believe the gpu scene will change soon , so u will be able to pick a great dx11 deal .

and u can then easily decide wether to multi gpu or a single capable card,

for psu i think even the corsair hx 850 will be over kill for single gpu ( but i am not sure what are ssd pwr req) worst case scenario u will not need more than tagan BZ 1300. quad sli or whatever.

but i think corsair hx series upto 800 w or antec will be enuf.

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February 20, 2010 2:13:01 PM

darkjuggalo2000 said:
man you really like asus....


I would not recomend the asus graphics card i would go with xfx for the double lifetime warranty that supports overclock!!!!


Hah, I personally like ASUS because I've never gone wrong with their product.

But in terms of graphics card, I like HIS and Sapphire, never owned an XFX before...

A few reason I chose the motherboard...

Never owned it, but read much about it because I would like to have one as my new i7 build, and heard that it's overclocking features are very user-friendly and suitable for beginners, as GIGABYTE has more of a professional overclocking system, and I don't think his friend is any much of a pro-overclocker!

And the graphics card, doesn't it have something called VoltageTweak?

But anyways, they graphics card are basically the same stuffs... but with different BONUS the specific brand gives you.

Cheers~

OH WAIT, I have a question!

Has anyone of you ever done RAID 0 configuration itself? If it was a on-board raid controller, how would you configure it? Just plug in the two SATA drives and the system will detect itself? Or do we need to do the annoying floppy-driver thingy?

Also, if I already have RAID 0, and I want another SATA drive just for storage, how would I do that? Just plug in another drive, or is configuration required?

Thanks for answering in advance!

AlexCheng
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February 21, 2010 8:50:04 PM

Words of wisdom, based on a truly huge amount of painful experience ...

1) Go with an external (tru-hardware) RAID

2) Do not set up your boot drive as RAID (anything).

Just as one great example :

http://www.videoguys.com/Brand/G-Technology.aspx

= Al =
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February 24, 2010 9:57:16 AM

Alvin Smith said:
Words of wisdom, based on a truly huge amount of painful experience ...

1) Go with an external (tru-hardware) RAID

2) Do not set up your boot drive as RAID (anything).

Just as one great example :

http://www.videoguys.com/Brand/G-Technology.aspx

= Al =


Okay, thanks! But "why" exactly? Onboard RAID controllers suck? What are some good reasons for spending the extra 200 on a external RAID?
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February 24, 2010 11:31:55 AM


Functionally, the CPU has to manage internal RAID, sapping proc overhead.

Ext RAID takes some load off your PSU. Less pwr=less heat .. more space = less heat ..

Uses 1 eSATA rather than 2 int-SATA connections.

If your system crashes, your external RAID is totally portable ... u still can work.

= Al =

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