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February 19, 2010 5:24:48 AM

Hi everyone im building a comp for my girlfriend she has never had a comp but likes to play games. she is going to use the comp for world of warcraft and also for music and just messing around.
I think i have the build all set up I just want to know for sure if all the parts i picked out will work together on the motherboard and everything. also im trying to build it for under $850. I dont need a mouse keyboard or screen. if you see anything i need to fix, add or improve plz let me know. thx

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


AMD Phenom II X4 925 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1333LV4GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... - Retail
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDP118-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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February 19, 2010 5:35:22 AM

^ That is a good build...IMO you can further save money by switching some components without any significant loss in performance and will still be fast enough for your girlfriend...

Do you have a plan to add 1 more HD 5770 in crossfire later on ? (IMO not required though)

And go with a SATA DVD drive instead of IDE - Thinner cable less clutter
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February 19, 2010 5:41:34 AM

gkay09 said:
^ That is a good build...IMO you can further save money by switching some components without any significant loss in performance and will still be fast enough for your girlfriend...

Do you have a plan to add 1 more HD 5770 in crossfire later on ? (IMO not required though)

And go with a SATA DVD drive instead of IDE - Thinner cable less clutter


what you think i should change to make it cheaper?
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February 19, 2010 7:04:36 AM

^ Change the mobo and CPU to these
Athlon II X4 630 + Gigabyte 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM + CASE - Just add 1 or 2 more 120MM fans and you are good to go...and also with the side window too
ADATA 4GB DDR3 + COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
But its your call though...

PSU + DVD
OCZ 500W + LiteON - IMO you wont need that 650W PSU...this 500W PSU can even handle HD 5870...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

But if you still want more power, then this 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Video card - Get this one...This has the Rev 2 cooler type aftermarket cooler, and it runs cooler than the previous version...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 19, 2010 1:50:59 PM

I'll add that if your GF is only gonna play WoW, then a 5770 is a lot for it; you could get a 5670 or a 5750 (a GTS220 or GTS240 too).

And don't forget the AM3 MoBo uses DDR3 RAM, if you find a cheaper AM2 board based on DDR2 could be a good idea too.

Cheers!
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February 19, 2010 7:55:40 PM

Right, but the 5770 is an overpriced card for the preformance it gives you. Read the benchmark, and decide for youreself. The only benefit is a bunch of useless features that arn't worth the 100$ you're going to pay for them. The 5770 CF is 2 5770s, wich would be 350$, and gets beat by a 300$ card routinly, which generates less heat, less power, and is single GPU, meaning 1 PCIe slot.
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February 20, 2010 4:20:13 AM

ok so i should get the 4850 over the 5770... anyone els think i shold do that?
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February 20, 2010 10:27:43 AM

I thought I read somewhere that you could play WOW with the on board graphics. That would save him some cash. I could be wrong I am getting older.
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February 20, 2010 1:20:45 PM

Yep, the 4850 is more thna enough. My freind plays it fine on his laptop, which has onboard grphics.
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February 21, 2010 8:12:40 AM

Ok now here is my next problem i have never built a comp before is there any step by step videos on building a new comp so i can watch and learn? or should i try to find someone to put it together for me?
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February 21, 2010 5:47:25 PM

It's pretty simple. You don't need to hire someone. There's a step by step hold-ur-hand guide stickied to the top of this fourm, look towards that for guidance.
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February 22, 2010 2:10:46 AM

@daman you can play WoW without any issues with the HD 4850...But it is not faster than the HD 5770...The 5770 is as fast as the HD 4870 and not 4850...

And what is the resolution of the monitor that she will be using ?

You get a lot of articles for building your PC and the sticky on the top of the forum is a good start...And also there are many videos on YouTube too...
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February 22, 2010 2:25:20 AM

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... - Retail
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.335362

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGMBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103808

OCZ Gold Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G10664GK - Retail
Item#:N82E16820227346

HIS H487Q1GH Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814161292

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128392

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148395

LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH24NS50 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827136177

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM

Total- $807.91 w/out tax+shipping ($25 MIR)
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February 22, 2010 6:20:17 PM

The 5770 is nowhere near as fast the 4870. A more fair comparsion is to a 4850, and the the meager diffrence in prefomance doesn't warrant a 50$+ higher price. Stay with the 4850. Saty away from the 4870, it's overpriced, should be 130$.
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February 23, 2010 1:53:45 AM

^ The 5770 is the replacement for the HD 4870(though not as fast but still is comparable)...And is much faster than the HD 4850...It is better in terms of longevity and value...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-graphic...

The HD 5750 is the DirectX 11 counterpart of the HD 4850...
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February 23, 2010 2:14:30 AM

Builderbobftw the 4870 is 3 fps better then the 5770. Please stop posting false info about these cards. The 5770 is a much better option then the 4850 because it supports DX11, it's quieter, it's more energy efficient, and it produces less heat. AND it gets about 10-15 fps better in most games.
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February 23, 2010 2:24:36 AM

The above build has DDR3, Dual 8x8 xfire slots, 4GB of DDR3 ram with the latency of 7 and timings of 7-8-7-24, it has a much better Mobo then some other suggested here. the GPU comes with a free game. the PSU is modular (you can unplug the not needed cords)

If your into cases then you can switch up the BP550 Psu with the antec 300.
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February 23, 2010 6:12:08 PM

The 5770 is "3" fps faster? When you're getting 20 fps, the bump up to 23 fps can mean quiute a lot. Also, prove it. Show me a benchmark.
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February 23, 2010 6:32:35 PM

"As far as the Radeon HD 5770 goes, bare in mind it should position itself in-between a Radeon HD 4850 and 4870. "

At the bargin price of 25$ more than a 4870, and 55$ more than a 4850!
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February 23, 2010 6:34:43 PM

Thank you Whitefang. It's about time somebody said something about Builderbobftw's 4850 > 5770 nonsense.
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February 23, 2010 6:35:46 PM

Builder when will you stop? the 5770 is identical to the 4870 except it has DX11, it's quieter, less heat, and eyefinity.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG HOW IS IT INBETWEEN A 4870 AND A 4850 SHOW ME A BENCHMARK OMG OMG OMG
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February 23, 2010 6:36:24 PM

At the price to preformance ratio, yes the 4850/4870/4890>5750/5770/5850
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February 23, 2010 7:43:35 PM

The 4870 used to be 130$, ( Powercooler, i think) i have no idea why it's 160$ now, that's way to much.
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February 23, 2010 7:48:27 PM

Haha cheapest 5770? most expensive 4870?

Ok sir, let's go with the cheapest of both.

oh jeeze this is getting intense.

5770 $149.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4870 $155.5 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HOLY CRAP DID THAT JUST HAPPEN? OMG.

And by the way, I did not pick the highest price 4870 and the cheapest 5770. Even with the 5770 I selected in my first post it is STILL the same price as your (cheapest 4870)

PWNED.
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February 23, 2010 7:51:31 PM

Thats a 5770 512mb, wich doesnt come close to a 4870. at ealgle dude, and car dude didn't quote right 4870 price.
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February 23, 2010 7:54:55 PM

Builderbob take a seat.
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February 23, 2010 7:56:17 PM

Prove you're point and i will. You haven't so far. You've posted a cheap, 5770 512mb, and failed to shou me a 5770 cheaper than a 4870.
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February 23, 2010 7:58:13 PM

builderbobftw said:
Thats a 5770 512mb, wich doesnt come close to a 4870. at ealgle dude, and car dude didn't quote right 4870 price.

Maybe you should click on my links again. They are, in fact, right. I even ordered them by price for the simple-minded.

Whitefang, we should know better than to try and reason with Builderbob. He's proven many times that it's pointless, the facts be damned.
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February 23, 2010 8:06:07 PM

Dang I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy, he get's beaten every time.
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February 23, 2010 8:06:18 PM

I looked at his posts moron, that was the first one with the 150$ 5770.
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February 23, 2010 8:21:14 PM

whitefang said:
Dang I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy, he get's beaten every time.



Actually I am starting to feel sorry for the original posters that he suggests stuff to. It always ends up being a flam war and the thread gets Hijacked.
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February 24, 2010 1:46:32 AM

@Builderbobftw the HD 4870 is a DirectX 10.1 card and the HD 5770 is DirectX 11 card...
So the HD 4870 is on the way out and the HD 5770 is on the way in...
And also you would remember that the HD 4870 was launched at $199 compared to the HD 5770, which was launched at $169...And also you should know that new technology means price premium...though the HD 5770 doesnt have much of it but in few months time, you can see the prices come down to sub $150...

If the HD 4870 were available at the rate that you mentioned - ~$130, then surely it would have got the recommendation...but for the current price and features, the HD 5770 is a better option...and you should take into account longevity too...

And again the HD 5770 is the replacement of the HD 4870...And this discussion is far from being informative...
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