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February 19, 2010 2:21:04 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next two weeks (waiting for deals, no rush)

BUDGET RANGE: $850 (after rebates)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Home Media Server, Workstation, Websurfing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS) keyboard, mouse, OS, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: I like newegg, but I'm fine with shopping around to get the best deals.

PARTS PREFERENCES: My last build was in 2003, so my goal is for this machine to last me quite a while. Upgradability is important. Phenom II X2 555 and Radeon 5770 will be the centerpieces, the rest is up to you all. USB 3.0 mobo would be good. I'd like a 1 Tb storage drive, and a 40-64 Gb SSD. ATX Case, not looking for a super fancy/gaudy case, basic black is good.

OVERCLOCKING: I plan to attempt to unlock the other two cores and overclock, so mobo choice is important.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: In the future I might add another 5770 and go Eyefinity.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I don't know much about overclocking theory, so picking RAM and mobo is tough for me.

CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 555

GPU
Not sure. HIS, Sapphire, and Diamond 5770 are all $155 after MIR on Newegg... any preference?

RAM
4GB DDR3... looking for good value and some overclockability

MOBO
not sure. AM3, ATX, support for two 5700, USB 3.0

SSD
not sure, I can get a Intel X25-V 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal SSD for $110
Kingston 64GB SSDNow SATA II 2.5" Solid State Drive for $146
OCZ 60GB Agility SATA II Solid State Drive OCZSSD2-1AGT60G for $129

HD
Not sure, looking for a 1Tb drive. I hear good things about samsung and WD

CASE
Probably a Mid-Tower ATX... Don't want to spend more than $70 on case

PSU
Probably 600W (to accommodate another 5770). Don't know which one is a good deal.

DVD

LG 22X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH22LS50 LightScribe Support - OEM

COOL

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm CPU Fan For Intel & AMD CPU

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February 19, 2010 2:37:27 PM

Since you're gaming, the SSD is just a waste of money. The sizes you're looking at would hold the OS and maybe 3 games.

Here's what you should do:

CPU/Mobo: X2 245 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $186
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB or if that's not available Seagate 7200.12 1 TB $90
GPU/PSU: HD 5850 and Antec Earthwatts 750W $375 after rebates
Case: COOLER MASTER ELITE 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP $40 after rebates
Optical: Cheapest SATA DVD burner $23
HSF: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $30

Total: $859. A much better gaming computer. The 5850 is almost a requirement for a true gaming computer, especially if you want to play at 1900x resolutions or above.
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February 19, 2010 2:42:31 PM

My priorities were probably overstated. I game maybe 20% of the time, the other 80% is spent doing office stuff, booting up, transcoding H264, where the CPU and SSD are more useful.

Keep the ideas coming.
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February 19, 2010 2:51:58 PM

The SSD is out of your budget. Period. It also isn't that useful.

As for the other stuff, you pretty much need a quad core. Here's a combo with the same board and X4 620 for $25 more. I'd recommend it, but depending on the answers to the questions below, I'd stick with the 5850.

What is your montior resolution? Are you planning to upgrade it to 1900x (if it isn't already)? Do you really need a 1 TB HDD now, or can you live with a 500 GB one for a while? Do you have any parts laying around that can be reused (specifically optical, HDDs, case)? How important is it to have the USB 3/SATA III onboard (you can add a card to get this later)?

Depending on the answers, it could be very easy to fit everything in the build or customize it to your exact needs.
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February 20, 2010 5:07:28 PM

Thanks a lot for the advice.

Some quick questions... what does the $115 RipJaws RAM deliver over $80 DDR3?

I like that case selection, it's quite subdued, which was what I want.

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February 20, 2010 5:41:27 PM

The 5770 is a teensy bit strecthing the budget, consider this. Very Small preformance hit, and you save over 50$. Put those 50$ towards a better CPU, possibly a x4 955. You're gaming preformance would get up a bit/stay the same, and you're other activities would go up by leaps and bounds.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 20, 2010 6:24:39 PM

You make a good point, from a pure price/performance standpoint, the 48xx series wins. Down the line though, DX11 and eyefinity are two important features for me.
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February 20, 2010 6:42:29 PM

The 4850 is a lot lower performance than the 5770. A comparable 5xxx series card is the 5750, which is not a good gaming card. Even then, once you add a second card in Crossfire, the 5750 is vastly superior. Besides the straight performance, the 5xxx series also require less power, run cooler and quieter, and definitely future proof. builderbob just hates all the new ATI cards...
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February 20, 2010 7:00:38 PM

I don't hate all the new 5xxx cards. Just the 57xx cards. I love the 5850, and the 5970.y6tgv
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February 20, 2010 11:53:31 PM

I would go with MadAdmiral's build with the AMD Anthlon 620 X4 CPU, it might not have a L3 cache but its a mad overclocker and is the cheapest 4 core out there. Some games now require at least 3 to 4 cores. The 5850 is a must! You'll be happy to have it! With DX11 and it runs much cooler, quieter, and less power hungry than the 4890. The 5850 is also about 20 to 30% better than the 5770 depending on the game. The Cpu will be able to handle all your needs and some. A gaming build revolves around the graphics card. Dont for get to look for combos too! That same optical drive and the hyper 212 cooler that Admiral mentioned can be comboed for a $10 savings.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I hope this helped, Enjoy! :) 
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March 2, 2010 11:22:08 PM

I've had a bit of delay, but one that might mean bigger budget. If I'm fine with waiting until the end of april, would it be worth it to move up to the 890-series chipset?

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March 5, 2010 4:37:57 PM

:) 

For a gaming machine, it seems like the only advantage of the 890 is Thuban support. Do you think the 790 will support thuban via a firmware update?
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March 5, 2010 5:57:04 PM

1. Yes. And fster southbridge, blah blah blah, but that's not a game changing diffrence.

2. I'd say about a 90% chance no.
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March 6, 2010 3:18:47 AM

Thuban Integrated Memory Controller is able to talk to DDR2 and DDR3 just like the current socket AM3 chips and was stated to be able to run on AM2+/AM3 mobos ..with BIOS update o cos ^^
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Six-Core-039-Thuban-039-...
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The chip is expected to provide compatibility with socket AM3/AM2+ platforms, boasting an integrated dual-channel DDR3 1333MHz memory controller.
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March 6, 2010 12:04:35 PM

Still don't think the 790FX mobos will run thuban.
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March 14, 2010 4:12:35 PM

This is funny your original product layout is what I just ordered from newegg and should be recieving on Wed. can't wait heres what I pieced together: I went with the Gigabyte board because I've heard they build strong and also Went with the AMD Phenom II X2 555 and the gigabyte board in hopes of unlocking the other two cores on the cpu. All other parts I have sitting in another PC like, hdd, cdrom, etc.

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail58206198 (N82E16820231193) 58206198 3/12/2010

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision Model HDZ555WFGMBOX - Retail58206198 (N82E16819103846) 58206198 3/12/2010

XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V 2.2 / ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail58206198 (N82E16817207002) 58206198 3/12/2010

XFX HD-577A-ZNDC Radeon HD 5770 XXX Edition 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail58206198 (N82E16814150464) 58206198 3/12/2010

GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4 AM3 AMD 790X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail58206198 (N82E16813128416) 58206198 3/12/2010

HEC 63RABB Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - OEM58206198 (N82E16811121098) 58206198 3/12/2010

AMD Gift Battleforge Game Coupon - Retail58206198 (N82E16800999217) 58206198 3/12/2010
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March 14, 2010 4:21:03 PM

you're gonna be screwed if you can't unlock those cores.
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March 14, 2010 8:03:24 PM

Builder Bob's a hater all through out this thread and read the POS rig that he's got listed.. LMAO RainMan
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March 14, 2010 8:05:30 PM

ramone12781 said:
Builder Bob's a hater all through out this thread and read the POS rig that he's got listed.. LMAO RainMan


Whats wronf with my rig? I paid 350$ for it, about a year ago...

So I want you to show me a better 350$ rig made on 1 year old parts.

SO STFU.
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March 14, 2010 9:00:06 PM

guys we dont want to turn this into a flame thread. did you read the news? you can get baned now, so just calm down.
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March 14, 2010 9:40:57 PM

builderbobftw said:
Whats wronf with my rig? I paid 350$ for it, about a year ago...

So I want you to show me a better 350$ rig made on 1 year old parts.

SO STFU.


All I'm saying Bob is you come on here bashin everyone's opinion and start talkin like your the PC god and everybody elses input doesn't matter but yours. With the specs of your rig you shouldn't have too much to say on this thread. Just go back and read your own posts they speak for themselves... But were all in here for the same reason and that's to help this guy put together an awesome machine at a reasonable price and I think what I'm about to build came damn near close to everything he had in mind which I thought was pretty cool considering I hadn't even seen this thread untill after I ordered it all. Anyways Love, Peace, and Hapiness. Sorry Bob O :hello:  No hard feelings...
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March 14, 2010 10:09:23 PM

ramone12781 said:
All I'm saying Bob is you come on here bashin everyone's opinion and start talkin like your the PC god and everybody elses input doesn't matter but yours. With the specs of your rig you shouldn't have too much to say on this thread. Just go back and read your own posts they speak for themselves... But were all in here for the same reason and that's to help this guy put together an awesome machine at a reasonable price and I think what I'm about to build came damn near close to everything he had in mind which I thought was pretty cool considering I hadn't even seen this thread untill after I ordered it all. Anyways Love, Peace, and Hapiness. Sorry Bob O :hello:  No hard feelings...


Allright. Anyways, what's the specs of you're rig? Just buecuase I didn't have 2 grand to build an awesoem system and had to buy a HP used from a freind who works in computer wholesaling and mod it doesn't make me any less knowagble, especialy when my job centers around computer building/selling/scraping.
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March 14, 2010 11:09:45 PM

builderbobftw said:
Allright. Anyways, what's the specs of you're rig? Just buecuase I didn't have 2 grand to build an awesoem system and had to buy a HP used from a freind who works in computer wholesaling and mod it doesn't make me any less knowagble, especialy when my job centers around computer building/selling/scraping.


lol I already told you what my rig will consist of and you said I'm screwed. Man it's cool I'm not tryna knock your expertise but in every forum thread I've seen you post in you have a counter negative for everyones posted positive comments. Nothin to lose sleep over but man give some credit to some of these peoples great suggestions. For example how are you going to knock down the 5770 it's a great card for the price and way better than the card you suggested to him also suggesting that he bump up to a quad core phenom why??? why not do what he originally intended save 60-100 bucks get the Phenom 555 x2 and unlock the other two cores bam, now he's got his quad core cpu....close to 99% chance of working if he choses the right mother board as well. I peiced this list that I've made up right in the $600 range give or take a few items that I really didn't need like the case and PSU but I wanted new so I ordered it.
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March 14, 2010 11:16:48 PM

ramone12781 said:
lol I already told you what my rig will consist of and you said I'm screwed. Man it's cool I'm not tryna knock your expertise but in every forum thread I've seen you post in you have a counter negative for everyones posted positive comments. Nothin to lose sleep over but man give some credit to some of these peoples great suggestions. For example how are you going to knock down the 5770 it's a great card for the price and way better than the card you suggested to him also suggesting that he bump up to a quad core phenom why??? why not do what he originally intended save 60-100 bucks get the Phenom 555 x2 and unlock the other two cores bam, now he's got his quad core cpu....close to 99% chance of working if he choses the right mother board as well. I peiced this list that I've made up right in the $600 range give or take a few items that I really didn't need like the case and PSU but I wanted new so I ordered it.


Either learn to to use the Shift key, The period key, and to spell, or just download spellcheck.

I don't relay understand the purpose of that post. Plus, NOW the 5770 is "great", but when the 4870 1gb was 130$ and the 5770 was 170$ it wasn't.

Anyways, "will consist of". You don't have it yet, so don't knock my build, Which I think is really awesome for 350$.

I can tell you what my build will "consist of"

And the X2 555 is only 60$ less than the the 955, (hint is X2 555 is OVER 100$, not 50$) and even if you do unlock those cores, there's a good chance they will have some small defects, which is why they were disabled in the first place.

Plus, I thought you were going to stop Flaming me.

And I have no clue what you're build will "consist of", WHAT IS YOU'RE CURRENT BUILD?
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March 14, 2010 11:48:21 PM

builderbobftw said:
Either learn to to use the Shift key, The period key, and to spell, or just download spellcheck.

I don't relay understand the purpose of that post. Plus, NOW the 5770 is "great", but when the 4870 1gb was 130$ and the 5770 was 170$ it wasn't.

Anyways, "will consist of". You don't have it yet, so don't knock my build, Which I think is really awesome for 350$.

I can tell you what my build will "consist of"

And the X2 555 is only 60$ less than the the 955, (hint is X2 555 is OVER 100$, not 50$) and even if you do unlock those cores, there's a good chance they will have some small defects, which is why they were disabled in the first place.

Plus, I thought you were going to stop Flaming me.

And I have no clue what you're build will "consist of", WHAT IS YOU'RE CURRENT BUILD?


You are hilarious learn how to spell he tells me lol heres just a few of your miss spellings through out your replies to me: "Whats wronf with my rig?"? "Just buecuase I didn't have 2 grand" "awesoem" "freind" "any less knowagble" "I don't relay" and a bunch more so don't come talking to me about spell checker when you sure as hell can't spell yourself. :non: 
Anyway if you must know what my current rig is, it's an old socket 939 build which has treated me great for the past 6-7 years untill I like a dumbass tried to OC the cpu and fried my motherboard but here it goes: AMD Athlon x64 4800+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2 MSI GeForce 6800GT (SLI config'd), 4GB Kingston DDR RAM, 1TB Seagate HDD. Oldie but it was done in the gaming department after the Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 Days lol. Oh and by the way you didn't tell him to get the 4870 which is a good 2nd option to the 5770 but you gave him this link if you don't remember to a crappy Power Color 4850:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Man get your act together if your going to go to war with someone, your statements are way off and the proof is in your own posts LMAO yet once again. :lol: 
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March 14, 2010 11:54:43 PM

ramone12781 said:
You are hilarious learn how to spell he tells me lol heres just a few of your miss spellings through out your replies to me: "Whats wronf with my rig?"? "Just buecuase I didn't have 2 grand" "awesoem" "freind" "any less knowagble" "I don't relay" and a bunch more so don't come talking to me about spell checker when you sure as hell can't spell yourself. :non: 
Anyway if you must know what my current rig is, it's an old socket 939 build which has treated me great for the past 6-7 years untill I like a dumbass tried to OC the cpu and fried my motherboard but here it goes: AMD Athlon x64 4800+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2 MSI GeForce 6800GT (SLI config'd), 4GB Kingston DDR RAM, 1TB Seagate HDD. Oldie but it was done in the gaming department after the Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 Days lol. Oh and by the way you didn't tell him to get the 4870 which is a good 2nd option to the 5770 but you gave him this link if you don't remember to a crappy Power Color 4850:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Man get your act together if your going to go to war with someone, your statements are way off and the proof is in your own posts LMAO yet once again. :lol: 



WOW what a great build asshole. You should relay pick on my 4870 1gb build! 6800GT SLI! Wow, do you think we could trade builds?!?

So WHY were you slamming my build?

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March 15, 2010 12:09:01 AM

builderbobftw said:
WOW what a great build asshole. You should relay pick on my 4870 1gb build! 6800GT SLI! Wow, do you think we could trade builds?!?

So WHY were you slamming my build?


DUDE ARE YOU RETARDED SERIOUSLY HAVE YOU READ THIS THREAD AT ALL??? I'M THE ONE THAT SAID WHAT I JUST ORDERED FROM NEWEGG WHICH IS ON MY FIRST POST DUMBASS! WILL SOMEONE BACK ME UP HERE AND READ MY FIRST POST TELL THIS BOB IDIOT HE'S ON CRACK? ALL THOSE PARTS THAT I SUGGESTED TO THE OWNER OF THIS THREAD ARE WHAT I'M BUILDING THIS WEDNESDAY FOR MY NEW RIG DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW RETARD? By the way you miss spelled again, just after you got at me for it lol: "You should relay pick on my 4870 1gb build!" It's R E A L L Y you R E T A R D not relay!

hUukd oN FoNiX diDent wErk fOr B.o.B.!!! Jesus Christ I'd be worried if you were running my parts store...
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March 15, 2010 12:33:57 AM

ramone12781 said:
DUDE ARE YOU RETARDED SERIOUSLY HAVE YOU READ THIS THREAD AT ALL??? I'M THE ONE THAT SAID WHAT I JUST ORDERED FROM NEWEGG WHICH IS ON MY FIRST POST DUMBASS! WILL SOMEONE BACK ME UP HERE AND READ MY FIRST POST TELL THIS BOB IDIOT HE'S ON CRACK? ALL THOSE PARTS THAT I SUGGESTED TO THE OWNER OF THIS THREAD ARE WHAT I'M BUILDING THIS WEDNESDAY FOR MY NEW RIG DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW RETARD? By the way you miss spelled again, just after you got at me for it lol: "You should relay pick on my 4870 1gb build!" It's R E A L L Y you R E T A R D not relay!

hUukd oN FoNiX diDent wErk fOr B.o.B.!!! Jesus Christ I'd be worried if you were running my parts store...


Fact remains that MY current build is BETTER than you're current build.

And I'm building a new one that can beat the crap out of what you are going to build.
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March 15, 2010 12:50:55 AM

builderbobftw said:
Fact remains that MY current build is BETTER than you're current build.

And I'm building a new one that can beat the crap out of what you are going to build.


I've had this current build for over 6 years now wtf are you talking about???

Bob's quote "Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you."

Now these statements sound awfully childish don't they people..... Hmmmm this still doesn't excuse you from being a Retard. Congrats Retard, your Playskool PC is going to be better than everyone's...you want a fu--ing cookie sunshine. I'm trying to stay liberal but will someone please chime in here and tell this idiot to get clue. I mean just read the posts they speak for themselves...
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March 15, 2010 5:53:42 PM

ramone12781 said:
Just go back and read your own posts they speak for themselves...


ramone12781 said:
With the specs of your rig you shouldn't have too much to say on this thread.


ramone12781 said:
but here it goes: AMD Athlon x64 4800+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2 MSI GeForce 6800GT (SLI config'd), 4GB Kingston DDR RAM, 1TB Seagate HDD.


Some selected hypocrisy.
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