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AMD/ATI Gaming System 900-1400USD Need Build Suggestion/Review

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February 21, 2010 1:02:03 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Now to a few weeks maybe month at most

BUDGET RANGE: 900-1400USD area Before Rebates (But i don't wanna go crazy with it)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:I MAINLY play MMORPG's (WoW,and in 2011 SWTOR), Sometimes FPS like CoD series/RTS/RPG's like DAO and Empire Total War and some web surfing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse/Keyboard. I normaly use G5 mouse and G15 keyboard.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: NewEgg

PARTS PREFERENCES: I dont care about brand what ever gives more bang for the buck was aiming for a ATI HD 5850 or 5870 and atleast 4g of ram and windows 7 maybe amd since there cheaper but i am open to suggestions. Also i dont wanna go overboard on the PSU but i do want a good quailty PSU. For the case i dont care what brand long as it gots Good airflow. I also normal go with Asus MOBO but i am also open to suggestions. I an't loyal to any brands as long as they are good quailty and dont go bad as fast as you RMA them lol.As stated in lower post i do prefer a AMD/ATI build as it is cheaper I made a build and need it checked over to see if it is ok

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Open to suggestions my current system is 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I dont want it to be a power hog. I also need monitor/OS I Also use a aftermarket HS&F.
February 21, 2010 1:09:57 PM

SO, you expect a one-screen LCD display, as a part of this build/budget?

Do you know the diff between Socket 1156 and 1366 ?

Do you have any preference for AMD over INTEL or is "fun/$" all you care about?

I'm sure you know about SLI/CrossFireX ... Are you thinking that is important?

As a matter of timing, it would seem ATi is the "only game in town" for game gpu's until later this summer. This because they have the Only DirectX11 cards, right now.

= Al =
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February 21, 2010 1:23:11 PM

Also ... What general form factor appeals to you most?

Small: You know, a Shuttle-like "Lunchbox" or "Breadbox" system ...
It is possible, even to cram a Socket 1366 SLI (Low-Profile Cooling) into that small space, tho most of "us", here, would not advise it as a first suggestion, it can be done, effectively ... just heat and noise and power must be designed carefully.

Mid : You know what that is. Like 85% of all builds out there (4U Rack size).

Full Tower: Prolly req'd if you choose an extended (E-ATX) motherboard.
Also advisable for enthusiast O.C. .. SLI/xFire .. H20 .. Workstation/Server.

Any-hoo
= Al =
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February 21, 2010 1:32:57 PM

SO, you expect a one-screen LCD display, as a part of this build/budget? Yes

Do you know the diff between Socket 1156 and 1366 ? Yes 1156 wont be future and 1366 will be little more future proof

Do you have any preference for AMD over INTEL or is "fun/$" all you care about? no real preference amd is cheaper intel cost more in my eye's in gaming GPU is going to be more important then CPU so Bang/Buck is what i am going for. Maybe triple core or quad kinda wanna get above dual core.

I'm sure you know about SLI/CrossFireX ... Are you thinking that is important? No i don't really want SLI or Xfire but i do prefer ATI over Nvidia atm





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February 21, 2010 1:39:19 PM

victomofreality said:
Alright I know this isn't a carefully crafted list or anything like that but...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.335219

I know you said you weren't looking at running cf but this set-up comes with 2 5770s and should pack more then enough bang for the games you want to play. And at $1,150 leaves you some room for your os and monitor.







I like it except for the ram/PSU other then that its a nice combo deal. other then that i would buy that combo if it was a better the psu/ram in the combo
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February 21, 2010 1:42:13 PM

Alvin Smith said:
Also ... What general form factor appeals to you most?

Small: You know, a Shuttle-like "Lunchbox" or "Breadbox" system ...
It is possible, even to cram a Socket 1366 SLI (Low-Profile Cooling) into that small space, tho most of "us", here, would not advise it as a first suggestion, it can be done, effectively ... just heat and noise and power must be designed carefully.

Mid : You know what that is. Like 85% of all builds out there (4U Rack size).

Full Tower: Prolly req'd if you choose an extended (E-ATX) motherboard.
Also advisable for enthusiast O.C. .. SLI/xFire .. H20 .. Workstation/Server.

Any-hoo
= Al =


I normaly go with mid to full size case wise. my last case was the antec 1200 but i also seen the HAF 922 which is a nice case also.


My biggest problem is when I choose the parts i end up with a 3000+USD build. right now i wanna keep cost down some this pc will only need to last 2-3 year's in a mmorpg spec's. mmorpg developers kinda keep there spec down to reach more customer's but i wanna be slightly above there recommended set up so i can still play a few of my single player games.

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February 21, 2010 2:10:09 PM


I am guessing you should prolly go ALL AMD/ATi (Mid Tower). It just makes sense, for your requirements and budget, so I will "step out" of the system config, discussion, as AMD benchmarks and pricing (vs. INTEL) is not my strong point.

BUT ... I most definately do think that I can add value to your long term satisfaction by recommending a 26"~32" 1080/120p (or faster) LCD HDTV Like one 32" Phillips model comes to mind, ... has all the inputs ... a nice tuner and remote ... great for game consoles and BR players ... Big enough to kick back on the bed and watch TV. Or lean back on Sofa when gaming.

So the most important features, for LCD/HDTV are 1080p 2ms response (120Hz~240Hz refresh/framerate), ANALOG AUDIO OUT ! (either a headphone jack or stereo RCA) ... don't go digital with audio .. processor/synch delays!).

I believe this one has ANALOG AUDIO OUT (pretty sure it's stereo RCA).

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-32PFL6704D-F7-32-Inch-108...

These (below) look good but I have a 52" LG (Suh-Weet!) and it only has digital audio out. I run my analog audio from an auxiliry 22" mon/tuner cause digital proc delay makes audio lag video (in several situations). In short, analog audio out is very handy and flexible and can hook to anything. So, these you would have to research the finer technical details, which are not published on AMAZON.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-32LH30-32-Inch-1080p-Gloss/dp/...

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L32S1-32-Inch-...

= Al = That is all I "got", for this build, but I'll be watching, to see how things go and to learn more about the AMD side of the fence.


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February 21, 2010 2:58:36 PM

ty for the info i think AMD/ATI build is also a good idea can any one help with one.
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February 21, 2010 4:07:24 PM

Here is what i am looking at maybe after reading some similar build's. And need help with Monitor,Ram and MOBO(Not sure if that MOBO is safe because of bio's and c3 revision of the cpu).


Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU:AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO:ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:XFX HD-585A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD:Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD/CD:ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HSF:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long ... - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Compound:Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor:ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
ASUS VH222H Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen 16:9 Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor Built in Speakers 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR20000:1) w/ SPDIF out - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Speakers: Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Subtotal: $1,381.83
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February 21, 2010 4:37:36 PM

Display
Screen Size 22"
Widescreen Yes
Recommended Resolution 1680 x 1050

90% of your experience is visual ... 24"~26" @ better than 1920x1080 ...

I promise I'll shuddup, about the mon, now ... just wanted you to give it some healthy thought. (The price and the refresh look good .. popularity too).

= Al =

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February 21, 2010 5:17:31 PM

would love to get a 24 to 26 inch monitor but its out of my price range.
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February 21, 2010 5:23:04 PM


Something to look forward to! ... down the line.

= Al =
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February 21, 2010 6:36:24 PM

yea that is a nice monitor but out of my price range right now
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February 21, 2010 6:39:32 PM

The Devil is gonna fire me !

Good fiscal discipline !

= Al =
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February 21, 2010 6:54:32 PM

Ah! Daggs has finally arrived ! You are truly blessed. Listen to him!

= Al =
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February 21, 2010 8:48:33 PM

Wodian said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Now to a few weeks maybe month at most

BUDGET RANGE: 900-1400USD area Before Rebates (But i don't wanna go crazy with it)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:I MAINLY play MMORPG's (WoW,and in 2011 SWTOR), Sometimes FPS like CoD series/RTS/RPG's like DAO and Empire Total War and some web surfing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse/Keyboard. I normaly use G5 mouse and G15 keyboard.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: NewEgg

PARTS PREFERENCES: I dont care about brand what ever gives more bang for the buck was aiming for a ATI HD 5850 or 5870 and atleast 4g of ram and windows 7 maybe amd since there cheaper but i am open to suggestions. Also i dont wanna go overboard on the PSU but i do want a good quailty PSU. For the case i dont care what brand long as it gots Good airflow. I also normal go with Asus MOBO but i am also open to suggestions. I an't loyal to any brands as long as they are good quailty and dont go bad as fast as you RMA them lol.As stated in lower post i do prefer a AMD/ATI build as it is cheaper I made a build and need it checked over to see if it is ok

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Open to suggestions my current system is 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I dont want it to be a power hog. I also need monitor/OS I Also use a aftermarket HS&F.



Hi Wodian,

As I have been working on a similar build for weeks. A price to quality / longevity build; this build is $40.89 over the budget and no speaker system however includes a 24" monitor.

CASE - $99.99 - Cooler Master CM 690 Advanced (Air flow you asked for - I have this case)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU / Video Card COMBO - $499.98 - XFX 5870 and 750W (Read some reviews on the PSU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Motherboard - $119.99 - ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - $160.99 - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - $114.99 Kingston Hyper X 1600 4 GB (Why this RAM, brand)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HSF / DVD Drive COMBO - $49.98 - Cooler Master 212+ / Sony Optiarc Black 24X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Hard Drive - $79.99 - Western Digital Caviar Black (The Samsung is sold out)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - $209.99 - SAMSUNG 2494SW (I would go with the Samsung 2343BWX but it is not available)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

O/S - $104.99 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = $1,440.89 - ($10 Mail-in Rebate) = $1,430.89
$1,440.89 + $43.74 (Shipping) = $1,484.63 - ($10 Mail-in Rebate) = $1,474.63

Hope this helps.

Here are 2 reviews of XFX power supplies, I have not found a review on the 750W however it is (80 PLUS Silver) which would be more in line with the quality of the 850W.
XFX 650W (80 PLUS Bronze)
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/899/1
XFX 850W (80 PLUS Silver)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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