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Updated build for purchase 3/10/2010 comments appreciated.

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February 22, 2010 5:15:42 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 3/10/2010 BUDGET RANGE: $900-1000 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Low-end gaming (Magic the Gathering Online), HTPC, surfing the internet.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
Monitor

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES:

REVISION 2.0



Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2
$105
CPU: Intel Core i5-750 2.66Ghz
$200
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1GB
$145
RAM: Memory CL7 1600mhz Ripjaws
$115
HDD: 2 X Seagate 7200.12 500GB
$110
PSU/CASE: Antec Earthwatts EA 650 and Antec 200S Black midtower
$105

$780 without peripherals
$1005 with peripherals and shipping. Peripherals are (Disk drive, Windows 7 Home Premium, 2 HDMI cables, wireless mouse/keyboard, surge protector)

1517.84 with 37" Sony Vizio.

REVISION 1.0
CPU/Mobo: X4 9455 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $276
GPU/PSU: HD 5850 and Antec Earthwatts 750W $370 after rebate
RAM: CL 7 1600 mhz Ripjaws $115
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55
DVDRW: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 $31.99
Case: Antec 200 $40.


Total: $888

Version 0.0
CPU: Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz LGA 1156 $124.99
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD4 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $149.99
GPU: XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) $169.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $114.99
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB $55.99
DVDRW: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 $31.99
CASE: COOLER MASTER Centurion 541 RC-541-SKN1 Black Aluminum bezel $39.99
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail $99.99


Total: $787


OVERCLOCKING: No
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

Would love commentary on this build.

Will the power supply and video card fit in this case? I've never built a microATX PC before but I thought it would be cool to make this one.

I copied one of the gamer builds from the PC-builds sticky (thank you) and made a couple of tweaks. If anyone has time to peruse it please let me know if you have any comments. I will add links to the components shortly.

I am building this PC for a friend of mine, using his technology loan from work. This PC and the LCD TV will be his only TV and stereo (though the TV will have cable and a PS2/PS3 hooked up to it). It would be nice it was quiet but performed well and did not have to be upgraded for 5-8 years, in order to continue functioning as a basic PC.
February 22, 2010 5:26:43 PM

If you're buying a GPU already, you really shouldn't get the i3/H55. The i3 is a great HTPC CPU for the onboard graphics, but its a horrible gaming CPU.

Here are my changes:

CPU/Mobo: X4 945 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $276
RAM: CL 7 1600 mhz Ripjaws $115
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55
GPU/PSU: HD 5850 and Antec Earthwatts 750W $370 after rebate
Case: Antec 200 $40. The 5770 is a tight fit in that CM case, and the 5850 would be impossible. This one is still pretty small. It's only 2"x1"x2" bigger.
Rest is fine

Total: $888. The HD 5770 is a good card, but drastically underpowered for 1920x1080 resolutions. It would be good for the HTPC aspects, but bad for gaming.
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February 22, 2010 5:57:07 PM

everyone here writes X4 9455 and I'm thinking why the hell they want to buy a old phenom when the new ones are way better.... :-)
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February 22, 2010 6:09:14 PM

daggs said:
everyone here writes X4 9455 and I'm thinking why the hell they want to buy a old phenom when the new ones are way better.... :-)

Because Tom's agrees?
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February 22, 2010 6:48:50 PM

I would be willing to sacrifice Some GPU/CPU power to use a smaller PSU and smaller case as well as save some money. If anyone has suggestions in that vein I would love to hear them.

The Low-End part of the gaming means that the computer will be used almost exclusively for MTGO, which is basically online poker with pretty artwork and more complex rules.

It would be nice to be able to run games that come out for the next couple years, but HD gaming is not the biggest priority for this system.
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February 22, 2010 8:36:46 PM

karm100fists said:
I would be willing to sacrifice Some GPU/CPU power to use a smaller PSU and smaller case as well as save some money. If anyone has suggestions in that vein I would love to hear them.

The Low-End part of the gaming means that the computer will be used almost exclusively for MTGO, which is basically online poker with pretty artwork and more complex rules.

It would be nice to be able to run games that come out for the next couple years, but HD gaming is not the biggest priority for this system.


If Magic the Gathering Online is the only game you will be playing, your first configuration with an i3 would suffice.

MtGO requirements are easily met with that setup.

Something like

i3 530 + ASUS P7H55-M PRO

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache

or

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache

If you are looking to store a collection of media files.

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified

Cases are personal taste, so find one you like for that.

Since this is going to be a HTCP, what about a blu-ray drive?
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February 22, 2010 8:50:14 PM

If you want a good computer, go with the AMD build. Looks pretty awesome to me (better than the ie3 build.) Or better yet, get this build which is pretty good overall (your going to have to buy the graphics card separately and some fans if you want.)

Here is the link,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

P.S: I think this'll be help you in the future if you ever want to love games as much as I do :love: 
Another P.S: Remember, you don't need to have the fastest CPU in the world. Only what can suffice for your needs.
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February 22, 2010 9:38:56 PM

That's not a very good combo. It sticks you with a bad PSU, slower RAM, and an average board.

I agree that the AMD build is overkill, but it's easily the best computer you can get for your budget. I could easily put together a build that does what you need for a lot less.
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February 23, 2010 12:07:35 AM

Woops, sorry about the build. Maybe it's because I hate looking for combos even though they go back to the original price (it's the shipping that get me angry.) If you're a ATI fan then don't go with the build I put earlier or just don't go with it at all.
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February 23, 2010 2:34:02 PM

Thanks for all of the advice so far! It's really coming together. The idea is that my friend knows that he wants a computer that will play MTGO, Movies, Music, and basic business stuff (Office/Adobe), he wants a nice TV to hook it up to, and he cannot spend over $1500.

I think it will be best if the computer can run Windows 7 at 1920x1080 and have multiple programs running without lag.

I would like for the computer to have a decent video card, so that I could install games on it and run them at 1920x1080 with low settings or 1280x1024 with high settings. But my feeling is that a radeon HD4850 or whatever is slightly better than that could do just fine.

The main goal is stability, longevity, and coolness factor. If you think I can build him a $500 system that will run new games for a couple years and run new games on minimum settings for like 5-6 years then let's do that! I think that he would rather either save the money or put it towards a larger television.

Thanks again for all of your help, I will probably try to submit a more budget build later today.
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February 23, 2010 3:11:50 PM

traken said:
Because Tom's agrees?

the writing of X4 9455 looks like the old first generation phenom writing...
there isn't any cpu from the second generation phenom labeled 9455, there is a 955 and 945.
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February 24, 2010 12:39:30 PM

MadAdmiral, I think that I will go with that build to save money for a nice monitor.

Can you suggest an Intel Processor/Mobo combo of comparable price for around the same amount of money?

The combos that I am finding seems to be a little worse processing power for a little more money, which is probably why you suggested this combo. I've never built a system using an AMD processor, that is my only reluctance.
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February 24, 2010 12:48:11 PM

@Daggs: way to stick with the typo...

AMD is great choice for great performance at a low price. They aren't as powerful as Intel CPUs, but they're also a lot cheaper. They're still high quality and very versatile. I went with the cheaper CPU to afford the GPU. It won't affect gaming performance, as games are driven by the GPU.
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February 24, 2010 2:32:53 PM

MadAdmiral said:
@Daggs: way to stick with the typo...

AMD is great choice for great performance at a low price. They aren't as powerful as Intel CPUs, but they're also a lot cheaper. They're still high quality and very versatile. I went with the cheaper CPU to afford the GPU. It won't affect gaming performance, as games are driven by the GPU.

:pt1cable: 
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February 24, 2010 6:42:34 PM

How will that impact the multi-tasking ability of the computer?

I don't expect it to run 4 VMWares, photoshop, MtGO, iTunes, Google Chrome and McAfee Total Protection, but it would be nice if it could.

Graphics are great for the "wow" factor, but if it's a big tradeoff, I'd rather go with more stability than higher frame rates.

Thanks again for your advice, I was looking for combos and found an i3/Mobo/HD56xx for like 5$ more. What's the tradeoff you think?
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February 24, 2010 7:00:36 PM

It's not a big trade off. The original build (X4 945/HD 5850) would be great for gaming and multitasking. It obviously wouldn't beat an i7 at multitasking, but at half the cost, it's still great.
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February 24, 2010 7:29:25 PM

OK, I'm just going to with the "low budget gaming build" that you listed above. Thank you for all your help.
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March 1, 2010 5:31:51 PM

So I missed the boat and that Processor/Motherboard combo is no longer available.

HD 5770
CL 7 1600 mhz Ripjaws
2 X Seagate 7200.12 500 GB
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98
Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 650W
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Vizio Monitor
Link Depot 6 ft. HDMI TO HDMI A/V Cable Model HDMI-HDMI-2 - OEM
Cyberpower 850
GIGABYTE GK-KM7500 2.4GHz RF Wireless Ultra-slim Keyboard and Mouse - Retail

Can anyone suggest a good CPU/Mobo in the $200-300 range to go withthe rest of this hardware?

Intel and ASUS preferred...
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March 5, 2010 12:50:49 PM

OK I rebuilt it because most of the combo deals vanished. Here is a new version:



Mobo Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2
$105
Intel Core i5-750 2.66Ghz
$200
Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1GB
$145
Memory CL7 1600mhz Ripjaws
$115
2 X Seagate 7200.12 500GB
$110
Antec Earthwatts EA 650 and Antec 200S Black midtower
$105

$780 without peripherals
$1005 with peripherals and shipping

1517.84 with 37" Sony Vizio.
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