Why P55A UD3 is better ?

[8Vidia]

hi people i wanted to buy important & primary part of my new rig , Motherboard . but stuck on choosing one this 2 options
1.P55A UD3
2.H55m-USB3

i asked before & they say P55A UD3 is better for gaming . now which one is better for Gaming & latest hardwares ? & why ?

 

[jaquith]

Right-off I don't like m/uATX MOBOs so the GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3P.

Also, I don't like CF for gaming, and prefer SLI so I'd take a look at the EVGA P55 SLI | 132-LF-E655-KR. IMO EVGA make the best gaming + OC MOBOs.

 

[8Vidia]

I dont like SLI because i will go for ATI Card . but not gonna Cross fire too . so just tell me which one is better in every thing ? performance quality , gaming , working ?

 

[deweycd]

The P55A UD3 has a better chipset, the P55 beats the H55 and will perform better in gaming.

 

[jaquith]

I dont like SLI because i will go for ATI Card . but not gonna Cross fire too . so just tell me which one is better in every thing ? performance quality , gaming , working ?

The best now is the 1366/X58 with SLI, and after that it gets "fuzzy." I have both CF & SLI, the CF is a pain in comparison to the SLI {Performance + Stability}. ATI for years has had poor drivers; I use to be an ATI fan until I kept blowing transistors off the ATI cards. I wish I could follow my own advice.

The best Gaming MOBO is the EVGA and the GA MOBO's are okay - the low to mid range Gigabyte MOBO are built too cheap and are under powered. The only GA MOBO I like id the UD9 but it's very expensive.

I would suggest the ASUS P7P55D Crossfire or EVGA P55 SLI | 132-LF-E655-KR.

Comparison:
ASUS P6X58D-E {207}+ i7950 {299} = $506 // CF or SLI
GA-P55A-UD3P {145} i7-860 {280} = $425

Difference is $81 and there is ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON to the 1366. It's a no brainier.

 

[8Vidia]

Ok , can i have good gaming experment with P55 Mobo ? i wanna get i5 760 & 5850 . is that Mobo a suitable option for those high end hardwares ? because i want nothing bother or bottleneck hardwares like CPU or VGA ! P55 is highest option for me i cant spend more .

 

[jaquith]

The HD 5850 will not perform as good on the P55, but it still will perform very well. So there's complete clarity BOTH MOBO's {ASUS P7P55D & GA-P55A-UD3P} have their second PCIe slot running at x4 vs x8 or x16; x8 will not present itself as a problem by x4 will in high-end GPUs. Therefore, if you are certain that will be CF the HD 5850 then you might want to consider spending another $30 for the $180 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro.

Further, the least 'bottleneck' arrangement is the X58. ASUS P6X58D-E {207}+ i7930 {285} = $492 {difference ~$134}. I "get" $; shop bundles & rebates. I've seen this Ad and people say they're legitimate {I haven't purchased from them ?!} - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303

ASUS P7P55D / $150 - http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=RBA8CzWoopUlYRFZ
CPU Support list:
Core i5 760(2.8G,L3:8M, rev.B1,95W) BIOS 1702
Recommendation:
Update to BIOS 1807 2010/08/27
GPU:
Slot 1 x16
Slot 2 x4 - 2-WAY CF Welcome to 'most' P55 problem!

Exceptions:
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro / $180 / 2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (single at x16 or dual at x8 / x8 mode)

Speed = $. In addition, for ANY P55 if you want USB3/SATA3 that is coming off the PCIe available bandwidth.

HD 5850 specs - http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5800/Pages/hd-5850-specs.aspx

 

[8Vidia]

Let me clear something please , your saying that 5850 will work on P55 but not as great as that he has designed for ? i mean i will see a PERFORMANCE HIT if i get 5850 installed on P55 Mobo ( i mean P55A-UD3 ) ? please give me a CLEAR ANSWER , butaway that info was usefull but i need clear answer like ( yes , no , 15% , very well , not that great ) & with little more reasons & details . THANKS A LOT my friend .

 

[8Vidia]

Let me ask my Question clearer . P55A is new Mobo & 5850 is new VGA card . is P55a That powerfull to handle 5850 & let him wrok GREAT ( 100 % ) ? or i will see PERFORMANCE HIT ?

 

[sir philus]

there is nothing wrong with the p55a ud3 it wont bottleneck your graphics card, if you are going to crossfire in the future just get an asus p7p55d e pro its probably the best lga 1156 motherboard price vs performance, there is nothing wrong with gigabyte boards, i dont know why jaquith has to complicate things, if you are not crossfiring go for the ud3 if you want to crossfire in the future then get the p7p55d e pro, its that simple, do not go for the ud3p its not worth the extra money, the ud3 actually has some good reviews

 

[sir philus]

in other words the ud3 wont have a performance hit on your 5850 at all, but just a thought, i was in the same situation that you are in, maybe you should go for a gtx 460 1gb and the asus p7p55 d e pro motherboard as the gtx 460 is cheaper than the 5850, with that money saved you can get the asus motherboard, the gtx 460 1gb performs slightly worse than the 5850 on its own but because of SLIs scaling two gtx 460s in SLI perform better or on par to two 5850s in crossfire, so if you go that route you will have a better upgrade path as you can add a second gtx 460 in the future

 

[8Vidia]

i think that single 5850 would fully provide me , dont u think 5850 is very great card for gaming ? oh but away i am suing 1440 rez so i dont think ill need more than a single 5850 . is p7p55d e pro more expensive than p55a ud3 ? how much expensive ( use % for answer ) thanks .

 

[sir philus]

a 5850 is a very good graphics card and its actually overkill for your resolution, for your resolution just get a gtx 460 1gb, its even overkill for your resolution, a 5850 and a gtx 460 will play all new games at full graphics on your resolution, hell even an hd 5770 would

the asus motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131621&cm_re=p7p55d_e_pro-_-13-131-621-_-Product

p55a ud3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412&cm_re=p55a_ud3-_-13-128-412-_-Product

 

[jaquith]

LET ME BE CLEAR IT WILL HAVE A PERFORMANCE HIT X58 vs P55.

@sir philus apparently does not understand the architectural differences between P55 and X58 - I DO!

There are plenty of similar benchmarks, this graph took me 2 seconds to find.

 

[8Vidia]

U mean there will be a PERFORMANCE HIT ? becaus ei have OLD ga p31 DS3l which other people said 5850 will have 1-5 % performance hit , but P55A is so much higher than my GA P31 DS3L , how it can hit the performance of the 5850 .

 

[jaquith]

The way it is I'm sorry to say X68 > X58 ~ P65 > P55 for performance right out of the shinny NEW BOX. I am comparing X58 against P55

Release Dates:

I can only assume an 8-core or at least a bump to 3.5~3.8 GHz 6-core consumer CPU will soon be replacing the i7 980X. Unless you pay the big bucks ~ $1,000 CPU or $400-$500 MOBO for "staying power" other tech will have short lifespans and constant baby leapfrogging.

 

[8Vidia]

OK thanks but what about my question ? please read it , Thanks a lot my friend .

 

[jaquith]

U mean there will be a PERFORMANCE HIT ?

Explained several times - YES. Intel performance hierarchy X68 > X58 ~ P65 > P55 > ... P31

becaus ei have OLD ga p31 DS3l which other people said 5850 will have 1-5 % performance hit , but P55A is so much higher than my GA P31 DS3L , how it can hit the performance of the 5850 .

I {really cannot understand the question}, "how it can hit the performance of the 5850" - it what??

GA-EP31-DS3L http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128334&cm_re=GA_P31-_-13-128-334-_-Product

The GA-EP31-DS3L is an older LGA 775 which is 2+ generations lower/levels down. {775 -> 1156 -> 1366} for one it uses DDR2 memory which is slower plus 800 MHz vs 2000 MHz RAM speed disparity, Dual Channel which is less efficient than Tri Channel, P31 ...> P55 ....> X58 Chipset ; both NB & SB is slower in the P31 ; Core 2 CPU vs i3 vs i5 vs i7. There are a lot of differences. .............. Lots of differences.

If you go the P55 {or X58} depending upon the CPU {most if not all} that you choose it is clearly a step forward, and will out perform you old P31.

 

[sir philus]

it will not have a noticible real time difference, how manty people have gone for an i5 750 system and a 5850? hundreds, the difference is so tiny

 

[jaquith]

How do I know!? ... How many?? The HD 5850 is a mid-level GPU so Millions of those GPUs are floating out there. 5-10 FPS is a big deal to most users.

 

[sir philus]

oh please, look at what resolution he is playing at, im playing at 1080p with an i5 760, p55a ud4p motherboard and a gtx 460, a friend of mine has an i7 930 and a gigabyte ud3r and a gtx 460, maximum he gets 3 fps more than me, also if you have a 60 hz monitor you wont notice a difference past 60fps there is NOTHING wrong with the p55 chipset, i cant believe you are advising this user who obviously has a budget and is playing on a low resolution to go for an x58 build

 

[jaquith]

^ I run 4-WAY GTX 480 on SR-2, 3-WAY GTX 470 on EVGA SLI Classified, and CF HD 5770 on ASUS P6X58D-E {non-gaming work machine} - TRUST me I notice the differences. It depends entirely on what games and how high your detail is set. There are games that will bring your GTX 460 or and HD 5850 to it's knees; Batman <15 FPS - total chop. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-14.html

Good Luck with that.

 

[sir philus]

look at his resolution, must i say that again??????

 

[sir philus]

he does not have the money to go for x58, get that into your head, a system with an i5 760 and a 5850 is pretty decent system, and is actually overkill for his resolution, he doesnt have the money like you do.... 4 way gtx 480s, how much more overkill can you get....

 

[jaquith]

1680X1050??!! Is NOT that high of a resolution instead it is a Typical - you can read?

Get it your thick skull the $67 ~ -$18 difference is foolish - you can add?
GA-P55A-UD3P {145} i7-860 {280} = $425
ASUS P6X58D-E {207}+ i7930 {200} = $492 ; ASUS P6X58D-E {207}+ i7930 {200} = $407
i7 930 $200 - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303

You're filling this post with nonsense. I'm trying to prevent the OP from making a mistake, and preventing regret. In addition, everyday tasks will be improved, more expansion, and clearly a better choice. I present the hard facts and not the fiction.

The ASUS P6X58D-E {207}+ i7930 {200} = $407 is a no brainier!!!