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February 23, 2010 12:11:55 PM

im torn between the i5 750 or the phenom II x4 955. im currently using e7200 but my MB is kinda limited so im going to move on. im not a hardcore gamer WoW,MW2 etc . screen res is 1280x1040 ( 9800gt ) until i can get a new gpu. question is should i shell out the 80 or so bucks for the intel setup or will i really notice a difference between the two since im not a min/maxer.

side note the suggested builds by usages has these 2 chips side by side with only a 10$ price difference but right now its more like 100$ on newegg

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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
February 23, 2010 12:41:00 PM

$100 difference? Last I checked, the 955 was $161 and the i5-750 was $195. The price difference comes from the boards. Equivalent LGA1156 boards are about $50 more than the AM3 boards. There are also fewer LGA1156 mobo/CPU combos than AM3 mobo/CPU, which increases the price slightly.

If all you do is gaming, you likely won't see a difference. In fact, you probably wouldn't notice a difference using a lesser AMD CPU (like the X4 620 and X3 425). The reason is that games are GPU driven, so the FPS and games you can play are heavily driven by the power of the video card. You may see a couple extra FPS by upgrading the CPU, but you won't see much.

Typically, I suggest an AMD build if you've got a budget of less than $1,000-1,200 for everything, which is about $700-900 for the CPU, mobo, RAM, and GPU. This allows you to generally get the HD 5850 or HD 5870. After that, I use the i5.

In your case, I would hold off on buying a new CPU, mobo and RAM until you're ready for a new GPU. You won't see a real performance increase (again, assuming you're mainly a gamer) and prices are likely to decrease at least slightly.
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February 23, 2010 2:05:58 PM

problem ive got now is my MB is limited to 4 gigs ram IF i specific chips and id rather not waste the money on new ram when i can get 4 gigs ddr3 for close to same price. so i figured i might well start upgrading now. i do have a 4670 ati card that is sitting around diddnt think id see much performance increase over the 9800 so i left things as is.

im a moderate gamer that also likes to do 100 diff things at once. im know for having 2 wows open while browsing the net or watching a movie on second monitor while playing. i can feel my system being sluggish when ireally make it work and its this i want to get rid of
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
February 23, 2010 2:09:42 PM

Well to do anything, we really need a budget and some of the other info found in the guidelines from the link in my signature.

I can tell you off the top of my head that the typical AMD gaming build is going to be $406 (after rebate) for the CPU/board/RAM and the Intel is going to be $490 (after rebate). I don't know if you need anything special (or don't need somethings)...
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February 23, 2010 2:16:31 PM

with my setup in amd the cost is 392.95 before $30 mail in and the intel setup its 464.97 with no mail-ins.

im sitting at around 500 budget and these 3 items are all i think i really need.

if the ati 4670 is better ill use it over the 9800 gt

ATI is HIS H467QS1GH Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
February 23, 2010 2:23:01 PM

To figure out which one is better, go look at the charts at the very top of the page.

Here's what I've got:

AMD:
CPU: X4 955 $161
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $140. Supports USB 3/SATA III and 8x/8x Crossfire.
RAM: Mushkin Enhance Blackline 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $105 (after $20 rebate)

Total: $406.

Intel:
CPU: i5-750 $195
Mobo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro $190. Supports USB 3/SATA III and 8x/8x Crossfire.
RAM: Same

Total: $490.

The i5-750 is the better CPU.
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February 23, 2010 2:38:38 PM

i appreciate your help and i never doubted the i5 was the better chip my whole dilemma was will i notice a difference for the cost.

according to the charts using far cry chart for one theres a 14 point difference in fps and the i5-750 wasnt even listed in the left for dead or divx GTA IV it was only 1 fps behind. where the i5 really shoots ahead it seems is other operations like scanning viruses and converting video etc.

while i have a budget ive never been a min/maxer who has to have the best so im really willing to save the money on the amd setup..

actually as i type this all out i kinda convince myself. but i do gotta ask the memory? all the other builds recommend the g-skill is the mushkin better?

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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
February 23, 2010 2:42:48 PM

The only problem with using FPS is that to get those results, they severly handicap the CPUs. You won't actually see a 14 FPS difference if you used the i5 over the 955. You'd only see that if you had a GPU that wasn't the bottlenck, which doesn't exist in the real world..

The G.Skill are good, but right now the rebate makes the Mushkin ones with the same specs cheaper. Mushkin is also a major RAM manufacturer. Either one would be good, so if you want to send in a rebate and wait a few weeks, you save $10. I probably wouldn't have even known the Mushkins were cheaper except the G.Skills were sold out early today...
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