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57XX vs 58XX vs 300 Series

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February 14, 2010 12:14:43 PM

I recently received a 22" monitor over the holidays, and my MSI OC 9600gt is no longer surviving the 1680x1050 resolutions on max settings like my 1280x1024 monitor once did. I am now looking to upgrade my card within the next 4-7 weeks to ATI with DX11, but am unsure whether to wait for the supposably DX11 supporting 300 series. I am willing to spend in the $150-300 range on a good card if it will last me the next 1.5-2 years, but do not know much about ATI being that I was always an Nvidia buyer. Currently, Nvidia has taking awhile to get their sh@&t together as some well know, and I figured they would probably want to charge half a grand for the new 300 series on release. I really haven't done much research myself on the card, any advice?

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February 14, 2010 12:21:49 PM

The 300 series is the OEM versions of the 200 series. The retail cards (The ones your interested in) are the 400 series cards that haven't been released yet.

For your budget you could get a HD5770 which would be alot better than a 9600GT and would be able to max out games at your res.
If your willing to spend the top end of your budget you could opt for a HD5850 which should last you a long time.

I highly doubt that the 400 series cards will be in your price range, but i could be wrong.

Can you list your full system specs please ( include your powersupply make and model)
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February 14, 2010 12:24:33 PM

first of all nvidia already reserved the 300 series for the OEM and for their upcoming DX 11 cards they will use 4xx naming. currently people are expecting the card to out around march so i think it is not wrong to wait for a little bit. if by any chance the card still get delayed or you simply feel that ATI is a much better option by that time then you can go for ATI
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February 14, 2010 12:25:46 PM

If you are in the 300$ price range and have X-Fire on your mobo you could get 2 x 5770 and be set for this gen.
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February 14, 2010 12:26:25 PM

Well, an article on the Inq. just stated that nV plans on releasing their mid range first (as the 400 series; 300 series is void except for low end OEMs); probably a GTX460 or something along that line if the sub-naming scheme holds true. That's the latest news that I've absorbed.
As for price and benchies, little or no information yet but they should be surfacing in the next few weeks.
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February 14, 2010 12:26:45 PM

Sorry, I thought it was updated in my user configuration.

E6300@ 3.2GHZ
4G of DDR2 GSKILL RAM
MSI OC 9600gt
P5N-E SLI 650i
160/160gb HD RAID
600 WAT PSU
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
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February 14, 2010 12:35:39 PM

SV_Bubbles said:
Well, an article on the Inq. just stated that nV plans on releasing their mid range first (as the 400 series; 300 series is void except for low end OEMs); probably a GTX460 or something along that line if the sub-naming scheme holds true. That's the latest news that I've absorbed.
As for price and benchies, little or no information yet but they should be surfacing in the next few weeks.

GF100 Cards Finally Named: GTX 480 & GTX 470
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February 14, 2010 2:19:02 PM

Bro, u say u wanna spend $150 - $300, so:-
$150 - 5770
$280 - $300 - 5850

but the 5830 will come out in a couple of days, that should cost somewhere around $230 - $260, so id advise waiting.

also, the new NVIDIA architecture will come out in a few weeks, we'll b able to tell then if they have anything to compete with ATI when it comes to the 150 - 300 price range.

HOWEVER, TAKE NOTE - ANYTHING BEYOND A 5770 WILL BE BOTTLENECKED BY URE CPU, THE E6300.
Methinks the 5770 might be bottlenecked, as well...

what say the rest?
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February 14, 2010 2:51:19 PM

won't even hold back a 5870 much at all...
unless you are after 75 - 150+fps it is not an issue.
That CPU with a 5850 will be just fine.


Check out:
5870 CPU Scaling tests
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February 14, 2010 6:00:55 PM

I'm sure it wont bottle, next its running at 3.02ghz.
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February 14, 2010 6:38:14 PM

Might bottleneck the 5850 alittle but not the 5830.
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February 14, 2010 7:00:37 PM

in some games his CPU will - but point is that only in a few games will a 5870 even be held back by this CPU too significantly
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in almost no games is it relevant, because all will get great FPS that are very playable - most over 60 FPS :) 

check out the link I gave.
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February 14, 2010 11:54:46 PM

At least go with a 5850; I have serious concerns about the long-term viability of the 5770...

Right now, the best option is to wait for NVIDIA's release, and the price drops sure to follow.
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February 15, 2010 12:08:15 AM

Agree w/ the 316 guy above.....with HD monitors 9(1920 x 1080) now < $200....everyone's gonna have one by next XMas......the 58xx is the entry point for DX11 at 1920 res....might as well wait 4 weeks or so and see what fermi brings to the table....that might be a different card (nVidia's or what ATI drops in response) or it might just mean more $$ left in ya pocket .
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February 15, 2010 12:20:57 AM

I'm not going bigger than a 22" monitor any time soon, so I will be staying at 1680x1050 for awhile. I wasn't sure when the 400 series was coming out, but I still will have to wait 4-7 weeks for funds no matter what.
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February 15, 2010 12:38:47 AM

Basically, I think the 5850, though expensive, is the best value for the money for DX11 right now. Crossfired 5770s are just as good performance-wise, but also just as expensive, and if you can get the same performance with a single card instead of crossfiring, you're almost universally better off.

I wouldn't wait to see what nvidia puts out. It's most likely going to be a 5870 for twice the price.
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February 15, 2010 1:34:24 AM

We dont know when nVidia is going to release their cards, nor do we know how available theyll be, the cost, the perf, nothing, so to say wait, who knows how long thatll be.
OP, you have the option of waiting for the funds, and this will play well, as everything will be better later, it alsways is, drivers, pricing, competition etc heheh, but since you have to, itll serve you well
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