Overheating and shutting down, tried 2 different CPU's ??

[Guest]

Hello,

I've been having a problem with my setup for about the past two months. The computer shuts down under CPU load. The problem is present in both Linux and Windows so it is not a software issue.

I've run speedfan and Everest and it APPEARS that one of the cores on the CPU goes above 85 degrees VERY quickly under stress (although strangely not under a Prime95 torture test).

I tried replacing the CPU (an E8400) with another CPU (an E5400) and the problem STILL persists, Everest reports CPU Core #1 flying up to above 85 degrees under any stress (specifically I've been using Diablo II, but it will go above 85 decoding video and such).

How could this same problem persist after switching CPU's? It leads me to believe the sensor labels are wrong.

Set up is:

DFI Blood Iron P35
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (and E5400)
4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 Ram
Geforce 8800 GT

If anyone has ANY ideas about this I would be indebted greatly.

Thank you,

-Scott

 

[Guest]

Further info:

Here's some debug info for you from Everest:

Sensor Properties
Sensor Type ITE IT8718F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name DFI Infinity BloodIron P35-T2L / T2RL
Chassis Intrusion Detected Yes

Temperatures
CPU 22 °C (72 °F) <---- this does not seem like an avg..
CPU #1 / Core #1 53 °C (127 °F) <---- this one blows up past 85
CPU #1 / Core #2 52 °C (126 °F) <---- this one doesn't
Chipset 37 °C (99 °F)
PWM 26 °C (79 °F)
GPU [ TRIAL VERSION ]
GPU Memory 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU Ambient 34 °C (93 °F)
Seagate ST3500418AS [ TRIAL VERSION ]
WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0 [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Cooling Fans
CPU 869 RPM
Chassis 494 RPM
GPU 1396 RPM (33%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 2.24 V
+3.3 V 2.83 V
+5 V 4.49 V
+12 V [ TRIAL VERSION ]
+5 V Standby 4.52 V
VBAT Battery 3.30 V
CPU VTT 2.50 V
North Bridge Core 1.52 V
DIMM 1.97 V
GPU Vcc [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Debug Info F 0308 FFFF 0559 0000 0000
Debug Info T 16 26 36
Debug Info V 8C 9C B1 A7 A9 5F 7B (55)

------[ Motherboard Info ]------

Motherboard ID : 12/27/2007-Bearlake-6A79OD4ZC-00
Motherboard Model : DFI Infinity BloodIron P35-T2RL
Motherboard Chipset : Intel Bearlake P35

Award BIOS Type : Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message : (I35RDC27) EVALUATION ROM - NOT FOR SALE

DMI MB Manufacturer : DFI Inc.
DMI MB Product : INF P35-R
DMI MB Version : 1.0
DMI MB Serial :
DMI SYS Manufacturer: OEM
DMI SYS Product : OEM
DMI SYS Version : OEM
DMI SYS Serial : OEM
DMI BIOS Version : 6.00 PG

------[ GPIO @ isa 0480 ]------

0000 C3 F5 7F 1D C3 6B EA E0 00 00 00 00 C3 ED FE E2
0010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00
0020 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 39 00 00
0030 FF 00 03 07 F0 FF 55 09 F3 FE FF 15 00 00 00 00

ITE 87xx HWMonitor Port = 0290h
ITE 87xx Device ID = 8718h
ITE 87xx Version = 02h

Winbond SuperIO HWMonitor Port = 0000h
Winbond SuperIO Device ID = FFFFh

Fintek SuperIO HWMonitor Port = 0000h
Fintek SuperIO Device ID = 0000h

LPC47 SuperIO HWMonitor Port = 0000h
LPC47 SuperIO Device ID = FFFFh

------[ LM78 ISA Sensor Device at 0290 ]------

0000 13 17 EA 00 FF FF 06 00 00 80 40 39 07 0A FF 55
0010 D0 D0 D0 77 D0 80 81 82 03 FF 05 00 00 00 00 00
0020 8C 9C B1 A7 A8 5F 7B A7 CE 16 1A 24 8B DF DF DF
0030 FF 00 69 50 EC AE CC A7 DA 9C 54 24 55 41 CC A7
0040 55 7F 54 7F 54 7F 00 0D 2D FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
0050 FF 31 55 7F 7F 50 E8 00 90 00 36 12 84 F8 08 88
0060 14 19 7F 21 98 01 FF FF 14 19 7F A1 B0 80 FF FF
0070 14 19 7F A1 B0 80 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
0080 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00
0090 FF 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
00A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
00B0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
00C0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
00D0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
00E0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
00F0 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

------[ ACPI Temperatures & Fans ]------

_TZ_.THM0._TMP :
_TZ_.THM1._TMP :
_TZ_.THR0._TMP :
_TZ_.THR1._TMP :
_TZ_.TZ00._TMP :
_TZ_.TZ01._TMP :
_TZ_.RTMP :
_TZ_.RFAN :
_TZ_.RFAN(0) :
_TZ_.RFAN(1) :
_SB_.ATKD._HID :
_SB_.ATKD.TMPR :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.EC0_.CCTV :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.EC0_.LRPM :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.EC0_.HRPM :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.ECPU :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TACH(0):
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TACH(1):
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TAH0 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TAH1 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.ST00 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC01 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC02 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC03 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC04 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC05 :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC06 :
_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.EC0_.TCRT :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.CTPM :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC__.CPUT :
_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC__.SYST :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.CTMP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.CTMP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMP1 :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMP2 :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMPI :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMPV :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.A1TP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.A2TP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.FAN0 :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.TS1R :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.TS2R :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.TS3R :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F1FL :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F1FH :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F2FL :
_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F2FH :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.RTMP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.LTMP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.MTMP :
_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.GTMP :

==========================================================================

------[ 1 SMBus detected ]------

------[ SMBus #0 ]------

SMBus Type : Intel ICH
SMBus Port : 0500
Can Have SPD: Yes
Scan Type : Full

------[ SMBus Device B00-D50 ]------

0000 80 08 08 0E 0A 61 40 00 05 25 40 00 82 08 00 00 .....a@..%@.....
0010 0C 08 70 01 02 00 07 30 50 3D 60 3C 1E 3C 2D 01 ..p....0P=`<.<-.
0020 17 25 05 12 3C 1E 1E 00 06 3C 70 80 14 1E 00 00 .%..<....<p.....
0030 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 EE ................
0040 7F 7F 7F 7F B0 00 00 00 02 4F 43 5A 32 50 38 30 .....OCZ2P80
0050 30 32 47 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 02 AB 00 00 00 02G .....
0060 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0080 08 02 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

------[ SMBus Device B00-D52 ]------

0000 80 08 08 0E 0A 61 40 00 05 25 40 00 82 08 00 00 .....a@..%@.....
0010 0C 08 70 01 02 00 07 30 50 3D 60 3C 1E 3C 2D 01 ..p....0P=`<.<-.
0020 17 25 05 12 3C 1E 1E 00 06 3C 70 80 14 1E 00 00 .%..<....<p.....
0030 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 EE ................
0040 7F 7F 7F 7F B0 00 00 00 02 4F 43 5A 32 50 38 30 .....OCZ2P80
0050 30 32 47 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 02 AB 00 00 00 02G .....
0060 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0080 08 02 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

 

[Guest]

Yes the heatsink/fan combination has been installed correctly with thermal paste both times.

Here's a picture of the speedfan readings:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2116/overheating.jpg

 

[Guest]

CPUz reads core voltage at 2.240V, fluctuates to 2.256.

 

[Guest]

That's what I'm thinking too. This thing has been running for two months like this, numerous shutdowns @ the 85 degrees mark.

I'm going to try changing it right now - but interesting to note - I loaded 'optimized defaults' in the BIOS a couple days ago and the problem still persisted so not really sure what's going on. Going to try manually adjusting voltages now.

-Scott

 

[Guest]

Ok -

I loaded 'failsafe' defaults in the Bios, voltage in Bios reads 1.10V and now reads 1.10ishV in Cpuz

Tested again, still shoots up past 85 degrees C and shuts down.

 

[Guest]

Any other suggestions?

I've ordered a new motherboard / ram / gpu anyways.....I'd still like to figure out what the F is wrong with this thing!!

 

[RetiredChief]

(1) Incorrect CPU voltage - Have you downloaded and installed the Latest BIOS??

(2) what HSF are you using? If Stock, ditch it as they along with Push-pins are louy.
Note you tried two diff CPU's with same result. (On installation, you should always check CPU voltages and temps.) Once you have corrected voltage, the next suspect should be the CPU cooler, not making good contact aver the one core overheating.
It is possible, since correcting the abnormally high voltage was a "after-the-Fact, you may have 2 bad CPU's now.

 

[Guest]

Strange thing:

After CPUz reported 2.2V I restarted and looked in the BIOS without touching anything the BIOS reported 1.1V. Then loading fail-safe defaults Cpuz reports 1.1v.

Do you really think both CPUs could be fried in the exact same fashion? And also do you really think that either of these CPU's could run for any length of time at 2.2V without immediately becoming unstable?

I'm no expert here by any means but the system is stable. It just shuts down when one of the temp readings hits 85C under load.

 

[RetiredChief]

Good points. I aways compare the 3rd party software reading to Bios, or manuf software. It's posible that CPUz was reporting it incorrectly. How long the CPU would last @ 2.2 V - I'm not qualified to answer that.

I noticed that speed fan that most of your voltages are Incorrect, appears incorrect reporting and not bad voltages.

Does DFI have a software utility for monitoring system (simular to Gigabyte's Easytune 6 utility).

 

[Guest]

As in fry immediately? Then there is no way that the 2.2V reading is correct given that both CPU's still boot up and are stable unless put under stress.

Does anyone else have any ideas? I emailed DFI last week but they haven't got back to me, and I haven't found a motherboard tool on their website.