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February 15, 2010 2:44:35 PM

Hi i am planning to buy one of these graphic card for my PC intel i7 to run Aion online which one is better?

THx
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February 15, 2010 2:59:07 PM

hd5850 :D 
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February 15, 2010 3:14:41 PM

Ditto.
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February 15, 2010 3:16:12 PM

Or HD5770 if you can't afford the HD5850. Or wait a tad for the HD5830.
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February 15, 2010 3:25:25 PM

i agree with all above posts..

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February 15, 2010 3:30:20 PM

tstxvsni said:
Hi i am planning to buy one of these graphic card for my PC intel i7 to run Aion online which one is better?

THx


249.99 at newegg, available in 2 days. This model has a unique cooling solution that by itself sells for 50.00. Its performance is greater than ATI's 5770 and less than ATI's 290.00 5850.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 15, 2010 4:11:30 PM

It's performance is also similar to the HD4890 which is $50 cheaper.
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February 15, 2010 4:35:25 PM

For $50 less you can get a HD4890 with the same performance, for $40 more you can get a 5850 that blows it out of the water, low power-consumption, and DX11.
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February 15, 2010 4:41:56 PM

This is what the GTX 275 offers
# Optimized Graphics Performance
# ARCTIC COOLING Accelero TWIN TURBO
# NVIDIA® SLITM Technology
# NVIDIA® 3-Way SLITM Technology
# NVIDIA® CUDATM Technology
# NVIDIA® PhysX® Technology
# NVIDIA® PureVideo® HD Technology
# HDCP Capable
# Microsoft® DirectX® 10
# OpenGL® 3.1 support (Requires R190 drivers or later)

*Nvidia *features that NO ATI card can ever support.
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February 15, 2010 4:47:40 PM

Features & Benefits

* Get unrivalled visual quality and intense gaming performance and for today and tomorrow with support for Microsoft® DirectX® 11
* With ATI Eyefinity technology get the ultimate immersive gaming experience innovative ‘wrap around’ multi-display capabilities2,4
* Tap into the massive parallel processing power of your GPU with ATI Stream technology and tackle demanding tasks like video transcoding with incredible speed3,5
* Feel the brute strength of more than 2 teraFLOPS plowing through the most demanding games
* Experience the speed, responsiveness and performance of ultra-high bandwidth GDDR5 memory
* ATI CrossFireX™ technology with multi-GPU support offers advanced scalability6

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February 15, 2010 4:49:52 PM

ATI fanbois cannot help themselves. Spamming. The ops question is stated clearly in the title of this post. GTX 260 1.8gb or GTX 275 896mb
Its listed in a sub-section : Graphic & Displays : Nvidia
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February 15, 2010 4:53:16 PM

Yes, we went with good advice rather than sticking with the specific question asked. If you are waiting for an apology I wouldn't hold your breath.
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February 15, 2010 4:54:45 PM

I'm not an ATI "fanboi" btw but a fan of the best performance for the dollar. If the GTX 275 was $50 cheaper hell yes I would recommend it.
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February 15, 2010 4:57:14 PM

It was all in gest, .

The OP needs to way in on, ~why~ these are his choices. Often its because these two models are available to him at different prices than what we know as current at the popular American e-tailers?
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February 15, 2010 6:58:34 PM

notty22 said:
This is what the GTX 275 offers
# Optimized Graphics Performance
# ARCTIC COOLING Accelero TWIN TURBO
# NVIDIA® SLITM Technology
# NVIDIA® 3-Way SLITM Technology
# NVIDIA® CUDATM Technology
# NVIDIA® PhysX® Technology
# NVIDIA® PureVideo® HD Technology
# HDCP Capable
# Microsoft® DirectX® 10
# OpenGL® 3.1 support (Requires R190 drivers or later)

*Nvidia *features that NO ATI card can ever support.


# Optimized Graphics Performance
Of course, the 5850 isn't optimized at all.

# ARCTIC COOLING Accelero TWIN TURBO
Vapor-X iz leet?

# NVIDIA® SLITM Technology
CrossFireX?

# NVIDIA® 3-Way SLITM Technology
CrossFireX?

# NVIDIA® CUDATM Technology
This is properiatry, like ATI Stream.

# NVIDIA® PhysX® Technology
OpenCL/DX11 is more important

# NVIDIA® PureVideo® HD Technology
UVD 2.0 is just as good, plus 4-series supports bitstreaming 8-channel & 5-series supports RAW bitstreaming & protected audio path.

# HDCP Capable
I'm pretty sure most modern cards have this

# Microsoft® DirectX® 10
OMG! ATI cards have Microsoft® DirectX® 11

# OpenGL® 3.1 support (Requires R190 drivers or later)
ATI supports this too


Now notty, how's your fanboy rant going?


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February 15, 2010 7:20:31 PM

OP don't let the ATI droids bother you, you probably chose Nvidia because of Physx, it irks them to no end.'

edit: And if you have ever tried or researched ATI's efforts with software that mimics cuda cores transcoding/folding @home you will learn that it is buggier performing than ATI's drivers.
Those attributes mean nothing to me, but I have read countless posts from people addicted to folding@home,
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February 15, 2010 8:23:18 PM

tstxvsni said:
Hi i am planning to buy one of these graphic card for my PC intel i7 to run Aion online which one is better?

THx


The 275 is undoubtedly the better performer but unless you have a reason for sticking to Nvidia (i.e PhysX) the ATI equivalent is the better buy. The 5770 came out and competed w/ the 260 at first but when it became apparent that the 260 was the better performer, as the 5770 rose in price, the 260 went with it and then long past it. At $160 US the 250 was a far better buy than the 5770...but now it's at $210 which is ridiculously high.

I'd suggest perhaps a GTS 250 which for $99 is a great buy or $119 for the 1 GB version

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Not quite sure why the 4850 tied with the 250 in THG's roundup last month and this month they dropped the 250 at the $100 price point.

Above that price point, and at least until next month, it's hard to pick an Nvidia card over a 4xxx or 5xxx card in the same price category, except of course where the choice is twin GFX cards.

It would help if we knew what resolution you are playing at now and what your plans are monitor wise for the forseeable future.
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February 15, 2010 11:51:37 PM

WOW that is a whole ton of ATI fanboi-ism blowing through isn't there? DX11...there's what one...two games with it? and still most games are aiming at DX9 why? because the 360 is built on that, and a great number of gamers are still running XP why change a winning formula from the console to the PC? that just takes SO much effort to actually look better. As much as it pains me to say...until the next released console most developers aren't going to spend much of their time developing an enjoyable DX11 experience. So yes performance and cost wise ATI is holding the crown, but that is not what this thread is about, so hold it in.
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February 16, 2010 1:00:55 AM

jezzarisky said:
DX11...there's what one...two games with it?

3 games. As of tomorrow 4, as of 2 weeks from now 5... Spending a good chunk of money on a video card right now and forgoing the latest version of DX especially when the cards that offer it actually give you better performance for the money is simply a mistake. You can call that fanboyism if you like but it just seems like common sense to me and I say that typing on a computer with an Nvidia card just like my previous 2 computers.
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February 16, 2010 2:40:12 AM

No you're right about the performance with the benefits for the future, but the amount the fanboys taut it about it as though it's much more than it is currently. Certainly as time goes on more games will incorporate DX11 as a major feature, and I was happy to hear AVP was aiming to have it as a major feature in their PC version of the game. But it's just that even when you have games that are still coming out (ei Assassins Creed II) only in DX9, the bragging of having DX11 just seems silly. In any case I guess I was more frustrated by the blind jingoism of a few of the posts regarding ATI cards. That's not what this post was about, he was asking which of two nvidia cards would benefit him with his online game. I will admit that if I were in the market for a new card I may jump to an ATI card depending on Nvidia's offerings next month.
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February 16, 2010 3:33:21 AM

Ok so based on the original post the gtx 275 is obviously the better choice i pretty much say i would never go for a weaker card just because it has more memory,

So atm ati is the better deal so it's somewhat card to really recommend the gtx 275 when on newegg they only have 2 models left as they are unfortunately becoming end of line( i personally have a 275 =[ ) and both cards at 220 it's somewhat card to say why not just pay the extra 80 for the 5850, but i feel that the 275 would pretty well bet out the 5770

You could also wait and she how the market develops, aka the 5830 which will probably fill that gab between the 5770 at 160 and the 5850 at 300, and of course there's fermi which is suppose out in about a month, but that will most likely be out of the range your looking at
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February 16, 2010 3:29:19 PM

hey tstxvsni

I was researching which one is better Single 1.8GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260 or ATI Radeon 5770....I have Alienware aurora with the ATI 5770.... the link below reports all the problems with ATI 5770.... Seriously considering Nvidia till ATi comes out with a fix. Such a major headache....

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&th...
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February 16, 2010 5:20:30 PM

No product is perfect. If you look for problems you'll find them. Look for people having issues with the GTX 260, they are there as well. Both are good cards successfully used with no problems by many, many people. Decide based on price, performance and features.
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February 16, 2010 8:46:28 PM

jezzarisky said:
No you're right about the performance with the benefits for the future, but the amount the fanboys taut it about it as though it's much more than it is currently. Certainly as time goes on more games will incorporate DX11 as a major feature, and I was happy to hear AVP was aiming to have it as a major feature in their PC version of the game. But it's just that even when you have games that are still coming out (ei Assassins Creed II) only in DX9, the bragging of having DX11 just seems silly. In any case I guess I was more frustrated by the blind jingoism of a few of the posts regarding ATI cards. That's not what this post was about, he was asking which of two nvidia cards would benefit him with his online game. I will admit that if I were in the market for a new card I may jump to an ATI card depending on Nvidia's offerings next month.


DX11 Games - 4
DiRT 2
STALKER: Call of Pripyat
Battleforge
Alien vs Predator

PhysX Hardware Accelerated Games - 16

Batman: Arkham Asylum
Crazy Machines II
Cryostasis
Dark Void Airtight Games PC
Darkest of Days
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (GRAW2)
Metal Knight Zero Online (MKZ)
Mirror's Edge
Nurien
PT Boats: Knights of the Sea
Sacred 2
Star Tales QWD1
Unreal Tournament 3
Unreal Tournament 3: Extreme Physics Mod
U-WARS
Warmonger: Operation Downtown Destruction

First DX11 Card - 5870 (23 Sep, 2009)
First PhysX Card - PhysX P1 (12 July, 2006)

Days PhysX card has been out - 1315
Days DX11 card has been out - 146
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html

Games/Days (Higher is better [More games everyday]
PhysX - 16/1315 = 0.01
DX11 - 3/146 = 0.03
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February 16, 2010 8:59:45 PM

Your list is already outdated. Aliens vs Predator was released today in the US.
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February 16, 2010 9:45:41 PM

Updated.
My point is, if DX11 is not so important, then PhysX is even less important.
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February 21, 2010 4:17:38 PM

There's a ton of DX10 games.....yet DX10 never mattered because it didn't bring anything to the table. DX11 hasn't done that either ...... yet. I am hoping that A vs P changes that.
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February 21, 2010 11:50:13 PM

OP, i apologise profusely for this. This obviously isn't a good experience to you as a newcomer to TH. Normally there are adults around but you caught us all at a bad time (Sabot00, you are excluded from this rant). The 275 you mentioned in the title will be the better catch i would think, 896MB will do for most games not to mention higher clock speeds all round and a wider memory bandwidth. Hope this helps.
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February 22, 2010 12:45:32 AM



I'm a pretty much paid up member of the green camp, but that doesn't mean i think ATI produces '***' (whatever that meant). If jyjjy is a fan of ATI products then he will have no reason to cry to his 'mother's womb' as ATI couldn't be doing any better. You are not exactly putting the rest of the NVidia community in a good light by being so recklessly childish in your responses. As much as a NVidia based question the OP gave, it wasn't exactly the worst thing to recommend the massively attractive ATI solutions as its our job as fellow TH members to give the best advice we can, not shove preferred products down their throats for our own agendas or egos. Oh and in response to that phallic comment you made; try reading up on reaction formation.
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February 22, 2010 12:50:31 AM

He directed that at me :lol: 
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February 22, 2010 12:51:53 AM

And me, but your reply covers it nicely.
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February 22, 2010 12:53:07 AM

Sorry for interjecting on your behalf jyjjy and sabot00, but i get sick and tired of these people talking out of their rear ends all of the time. I'm sure you can agree with that lol :) .
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February 22, 2010 12:54:59 AM

That amog guys needs to taste the banhammer.
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February 22, 2010 12:55:48 AM

sabot00 said:
That amog guys needs to taste the banhammer.


Agree.
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a b Î Nvidia
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February 22, 2010 12:59:01 AM

Yeah arguing is one thing but language like that is simply going too far. It does make you wonder what exactly "***" is considering the words he used but decided didn't need to be replaced with stars.
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February 22, 2010 1:01:57 AM

Haha yeah, i was actually thinking the same thing. That 3 starred word must have been something truly horrific....
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February 22, 2010 1:37:07 AM

Griffolion said:
I'm a pretty much paid up member of the green camp, but that doesn't mean i think ATI produces '***' (whatever that meant). If jyjjy is a fan of ATI products then he will have no reason to cry to his 'mother's womb' as ATI couldn't be doing any better. You are not exactly putting the rest of the NVidia community in a good light by being so recklessly childish in your responses. As much as a NVidia based question the OP gave, it wasn't exactly the worst thing to recommend the massively attractive ATI solutions as its our job as fellow TH members to give the best advice we can, not shove preferred products down their throats for our own agendas or egos. Oh and in response to that phallic comment you made; try reading up on reaction formation.


Then why do you use a GTX yourself?
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February 22, 2010 2:06:38 AM

He has a 1GB GTX 280 in his sig.
Someone here needs to read.
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February 22, 2010 9:34:04 AM

Because i've been using NVidia cards since i was little and they've never ever failed me once and thus never given me reason to switch to the red camp. But just because i prefer NVidia's products doesn't mean im not going to automatically slag off ATI's products, especially at this time when ATI are dominating the market at NVidia are very much behind. Considering that for the last number of months i've been waiting patiently for the GTX 470/480's to make their appearance i would say i'm quite loyal to NV in some respects but i also have respect for ATI's cards too and rightly so.
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April 9, 2010 6:50:25 AM

Wowo this is pathetic most of you. The gu who asked the question didnt ANOTHER ATI vs Nvidia War. There a millions of them on the internet so go find one if you want talk out of your arse. And reference to the original question i would say the gtx 275 or raedon 5770, The ati card will help with the newest of the newest games but maybe a 2-5% increase only. Im neutral between ati and nvidia so pick whatever card is cheaper.
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April 9, 2010 9:23:43 AM

+1^^^ I agree with you!

Wow such a wonderful time spent reading the arguements!!

Lets see, its been 2 months since the last post.... and the OP posted once throughout the history of this thread... You have been HAD!

GG! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
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July 14, 2010 3:17:32 PM

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